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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Biden is corrupt?

Trump is corrupt to the fucking core. His whole existence has been dominated by graft and cheating.


I agree, Trump was a corrupt businessman screwing over other business people for decades. That's why he knew many politicians throughout the decades.


Give me a better option than trump and I'll vote for that person. Hillary Clinton and Biden aren't better options, sorry... Those 2 are just as bad and in my opinion even worse. Your solution to the problem is voting in a corrupt puppet like joe Biden? That's insane..

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue]
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We don't have it bad in the United states by the way. Our health insurance and education is expensive but other than that thing's aren't that bad. Some of you dont understand how good you actually have it. You blame your lack of success on society instead of taking responsibility for your own life and fixing it. Free healthcare isn't going to magically fix your life.

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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If you grew up poor in a slum, you can still be for Medicare for All and ending foreign wars in countries that aren't a threat, etc.  Things your establishment democrats don't care about.


So you don’t think it’s serious job that demands relatable experience . I’m not surprised .


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue] * 1
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Shenmue said:
We don't have it bad in the United states by the way. Our health insurance and education is expensive but other than that thing's aren't that bad.


They're so expensive that we only rank 22 in the world for median wealth.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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We don't have it bad in the United states by the way. Our health insurance and education is expensive but other than that thing's aren't that bad. Some of you dont understand how good you actually have it. You blame your lack of success on society instead of taking responsibility for your own life and fixing it. Free healthcare isn't going to magically fix your life.



    He’s talking to me but your ignoring me so you don’t know what we are talking about . Just one of the many reasons  using the ignore function can make you look fucking stupid .


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
How can you correct wrongs from the past?  Does that attempt to correct those wrongs hurt people in the present/future, if so, that's another wrong.


For example:

If you want to run for office and you inherited billions, you probably have a good shot if you use your inherited money to promote yourself.  If you want to run for office and you're born in a slum, you have very little chance.

To correct this, we can pass campaign finance reform laws and give each candidate the same amount of campaign money, so only the most qualified person wins.  Seems fair, except the billionaire by inheritance will cry "WAAAH, NOT FAIR!  If I used my daddy's money, I could probably beat the more qualified guy from the slum!"


Money doesn't buy elections though. Mike Bloomberg proved this. Your message is what wins elections. Trump also proved this

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue]
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Shenmue said:
qman said:
Biden is corrupt?

Trump is corrupt to the fucking core. His whole existence has been dominated by graft and cheating.


I agree, Trump was a corrupt businessman screwing over other business people for decades. That's why he knew many politicians throughout the decades.


Give me a better option than trump and I'll vote for that person. Hillary Clinton and Biden aren't better options, sorry... Those 2 are just as bad and in my opinion even worse. Your solution to the problem is voting in a corrupt puppet like joe Biden? That's insane..


I might vote for Biden because I think he'll cause even more dysfunction to the system than Trump will, how's that for pissing away an useless vote?

I also want to see Trump supporters crying like babies if their savior loses to a man with dementia.

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue] * 1
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Shenmue said:
We don't have it bad in the United states by the way. Our health insurance and education is expensive but other than that thing's aren't that bad. Some of you dont understand how good you actually have it. You blame your lack of success on society instead of taking responsibility for your own life and fixing it. Free healthcare isn't going to magically fix your life.


The working class is getting destroyed and you're complaining about the people taking notice of this obvious fact? 

The very wealthy have been getting richer at the expense of the working class, why don't you find that problematic?

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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There's like 195 countries in the world so yeah 22 is pretty damn good.. If you're doing bad in the states it's probably you that's the problem.

When it comes to region we're actually the best. You can't compare the United states to those tiny little countries. Just one state in the United states is the size of a lot of countries so saying its 22 is kind of misleading when you think of the big picture.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue]
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We're best in the world at catching and dying from Covid19, that's for sure.

:tombstone: . . . :peace:


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
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qman said:
Shenmue said:
We don't have it bad in the United states by the way. Our health insurance and education is expensive but other than that thing's aren't that bad. Some of you dont understand how good you actually have it. You blame your lack of success on society instead of taking responsibility for your own life and fixing it. Free healthcare isn't going to magically fix your life.


The working class is getting destroyed and you're complaining about the people taking notice of this obvious fact? 

The very wealthy have been getting richer at the expense of the working class, why don't you find that problematic?


Omg we don't have it that bad. You don't even have to go to college to make good money in the United states. You can join a trade like the pipefitters union or electricians and make around 100k a year if you're actually willing to work hard. Half of you go to college and major in stupid shit that doesn't pay anything then you blame all of your problems on the government. Obviously there's rich people that are taking advantage of us but it's like that in every country.

The only point I'm trying to make is that your problems aren't going to magically disappear if you get universal healthcare or free college. It's not like Bernie Sanders was going to dramatically change your life. It's just a fantasy that you're playing in your head. Life is hard and it's always been that way.

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue]
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Life is easy as fuck.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123]
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MagicMush123 said:
Money doesn't buy elections though. Mike Bloomberg proved this. Your message is what wins elections. Trump also proved this


U.S. President-elect Donald Trump pumped a total of $66 million of his own money into his campaign

Money doesn't guarantee you a win, but it will certainly buy you votes.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue] * 2
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Shenmue said:
There's like 195 countries in the world so yeah 22 is pretty damn good..


According to the CIA there are only 31 first world countries, so 22 is pretty damn bad.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
MagicMush123 said:
Money doesn't buy elections though. Mike Bloomberg proved this. Your message is what wins elections. Trump also proved this


U.S. President-elect Donald Trump pumped a total of $66 million of his own money into his campaign

Money doesn't guarantee you a win, but it will certainly buy you votes.


How can you buy votes? If money bought votes then Clinton should have won .  Agian, it was trumps message that won him the election, not how much he spent campaigning

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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: MagicMush123]
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MagicMush123 said:
How can you buy votes? If money bought votes then Clinton should have won .


I'll let Enlil explain:
Enlil said:
Money can get out the message, yes, but if that message is shitty, that money will only serve to make that candidate less popular.

Money only amplifies the message.


Enlil said:
Everyone needs money to win.  Who wins will be determined by the message...not the amount of money.

This is why public funding of elections is really necessary.


You HAVE to have money to win, but having money doesn't guarantee you a win.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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More importantly:  Having more money doesn't mean more votes.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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Of course it does.  As I explained before, I know a shit ton of people in California who said they were voting for Bloomberg because they saw his message on tv and liked it.  Most of them never would have heard of him otherwise.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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That's not because of money.  That's because of the message.


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Re: TWUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
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They didn't vote for any of the 29 candidates whose message they may have liked but never heard.


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