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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Nichrome]
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I’d argue majority of contams are rarely from environment until after spawning. Majority of contams IMO come from either the spore source, or we introduced it with our hands or something (which means it can easily come from outside your house). After initial cleanup you should have no more contams to deal with. :2cents:

Nichrome said:
Not all of them but most yes. Some of us actually have microscopes and use them. Also identification of sporulation is key anyway. If its making spores then extreme measures are taken or the dish is just tossed. As far as bacteria go there are very few that can become airborne and those are easily identified without a microscope by growth pattern and color usually staining the inside of the dish. Viruses need living cells to replicate so there is little worry there.

I clean up a lot of wild cultures and have been doing so for more than 20 years. Never have I gotten sick or made anyone else sick.

Funny how all these trusted cultivators preach such crap and then kiss each others asses about it like a petty bully troupe. Highschool shit. It really ruins the flow of conversation. Measuring contest for sure.



Lmao what’s your problem? Cool beans you’ve been healthy. Not everyone can say the same. I’m exclusively talking about mold spores here. Didn’t mention bacteria or viruses, but glad others who read this can know that now (but yeah I was definitely not talking about those). Didn’t know it offended you so much to look out for others and advise to simply use a god damn tote with arm holes in it. If you don’t want to, cool stuff I ain’t stopping you.


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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Mad Season]
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Are you really saying that a SAB is necessary, honestly? Conversation is stimulating and all but is this honestly what's being stated? Considering that the SAB is an adaptation adopted for this hobby in lieu of proper lab equipment. Even this "hood" is an adaptation of a real flowhood. You will not find a tote with arm holes cut on the side,in a lab with Alan Rockefeller hunched over it.


If an individual doesn't know to avoid breathing in mold then they should quit this hoppy.

Edited by Stipe-n Cap (08/14/19 09:46 AM)

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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Yes I am 100% stating this. If you want to do contam work it’s the much safer route. Sure, it’s annoying but it is also safer. It’s like basically arguing that you don’t need safety glasses when using a drill. Tons of people don’t use them and have had no problems, but there’s also many who ended up with shavings in their eyes. It’s more annoying but it’s also safer. For literally any other aspect FH is better. Tons of people in the past don’t care and use flow hoods for contam and spore work, just like tons of people operate drills without safety glasses. Power to them, but just like how wearing safety glasses is the proper tool for longevity when operating a drill, a sab is the proper tool for contam work.

This isn’t brand new shit. This is using the proper tool for the job.
RogerRabbit said:
urbanfarmer said:
I set up my horizontal flow hood on the side of the workspace, blowing across the workspace from left to right.  In theory this is better as there is less chance of blowback of contams on my body onto the workspace as my torso is outside the airstream



Rule number 1 is NEVER open a contaminated petri dish in front of the flowhood, regardless of configuration.  You don't want those spores going everywhere.  If a dish is contaminated and you're trying to isolate healthy mycelium away from it, always shut off the hood just before you make the transfer, so you're working in still air, or use a glovebox instead.
RR



RogerRabbit said:
fungus_tao said:
You can, and I do so regularly as I transfer away from contams while doing wild clones. A glove box is better for this, because it's not blowing shit around. As long as the the contam hasn't spread more than a few mm's I proceed under the hood as normal and as always keep it fast, and cover the dish as soon as possible.
FT



You should never open a contaminated petri dish in front of a flow hood.  If I'm isolating away from molds or bacteria, I'll run the flow hood right up until just before I open the dish, and then shut it off, make the transfer and then turn it back on.  If you open a moldy dish in front of a flowhood, you'll just blow the contaminant spores all over your new dish and/or work, not to mention yourself and your lab.
RR



Or do as rr says and turn it off for the transfer, but fuck letting it blow spores everywhere, including yourself.


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Edited by Mad Season (08/14/19 09:57 AM)

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 3
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SABs are proper lab equipment used in mycology labs.

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Mad Season]
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Alright, I concede.  It would appear as though there is place for it where the hood fails to perform. Even though I don't open mold infested plates.

Best to push an argument to its limits to find the cracks in it's armour.

Tips hat*

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Mad Season]
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Great compare and contrast Mad Season. Really summed it up nicely :justastonishing:

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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Hey man, :cheers: I’m glad you understand, and if you’re experienced, with a good set of cultures and clean spores, you’re set and never need a sab. I’m simply just stating for the thousands of new people who’ll stumble upon this thread in the future what is the proper tool, and to be wary of the unknown. It’s better to be safe than sorry.

Also glad to see another Canadian :wink:


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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Mad Season]
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Mad Season said:
Also glad to see another Canadian :wink:



:cheers:

Edited by Stipe-n Cap (08/14/19 11:09 PM)

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
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The shroomery is the place you go when you want to find hobby cultivators that need nicer stuff than people running businesses. There's real farms that support 5-50 people's incomes using off the shelf Walmart humidifiers and prestos. There's people here with $500 misting setups and three all American's. Either way results and whatever floats your boat is what matters to me

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
The shroomery is the place you go when you want to find hobby cultivators that need nicer stuff than people running businesses. There's real farms that support 5-50 people's incomes using off the shelf Walmart humidifiers and prestos. There's people here with $500 misting setups and three all American's. Either way results and whatever floats your boat is what matters to me



Lol, yeah that pretty much sums it up.

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Stipe-n Cap] * 1
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Dont get much contams on my plates but when there is a random colony, I save
that plate for last and transfer it right after turning off my hood. Has yet
to fail me in cleaning up a plate. 

SAB work is good for teaching you the basics of sterile tech but I would choose
to work in front of a hood everytime given the option


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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Nichrome]
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Hmm. I do my myco stuff in the garrage. In flow. Is it really any more dangerous to open a dirty plate then to be in the room the plate got dirty in? I figure all that shit was in the air anyway. Like I could see a whole tubs worth of sporulating funk being an issue but one little spot on a plate? Not saying that I don't believe it. Just seems like a strech. That said I knew a dude with what they call bakers lung. It was from sifting pasty flour by the tons over the course of his baking career so now I'm thinking... Do I need to be using a respirator if I'm doing this shit all day every day?

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: natedawgnow]
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I kept my SAB specifically for contaminated plates. I just wanted to put all these quotes together:

RogerRabbit said:
You should never open a contaminated petri dish in front of a flow hood.  If I'm isolating away from molds or bacteria, I'll run the flow hood right up until just before I open the dish, and then shut it off, make the transfer and then turn it back on.



Mad Season said:
turn it off for the transfer



natedawgnow said:
Dont get much contams on my plates but when there is a random colony, I save
that plate for last and transfer it right after turning off my hood. Has yet
to fail me in cleaning up a plate.



:whathesaid:
This is what I've done since I got my flow hood. When I first finished it I had a few very nasty plates that I wanted to save, and I tested this out. Ran the thing and did all my other transfers then shut it off and worked as fast as I could to finish all the contaminated plates, then closed them up and turned the FH back on. I've done it a couple times since then too, and I've had great success doing this and as a result haven't had to pull out my SAB.

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: ShaperDreaming]
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I've made transfers away from sporulating mold in front of my filter before without dying or losing all my work... :shrug:

I think the trick to pulling it off is to not be stupid about it and I wouldn't reccomend a noob do it.


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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: LotKid]
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I'm rockin a 200qt SAB because every pirchase I made for a FH/FFU has resulted in a refund. I have a 2'x2' filter but its got some fin damage. The FFU never even got shipped.:boo:


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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: LotKid]
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LotKid said:
I've made transfers away from sporulating mold in front of my filter before without dying or losing all my work... :shrug:

I think the trick to pulling it off is to not be stupid about it and I wouldn't reccomend a noob do it.



:whathesaid:


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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: Mad Season]
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I'm all for ppl trying new things and pushing the boundry of thier skillz.

Ppl just need to be not only aware of the consequensces but prepared for them as well should they be so bold to try new things.


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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: LotKid]
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Been hyming and hawing over getting a hood but feel it is more of a luxury item for reasons explained above.
I think the bottom line is that a cultivator doesn't have to use a sterolite tub for a SAB ether and still do bags or gallon jars.
Ya just gotta think outside the tub.  :douchewink:


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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
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It's like a no-flow hood. maybe people will like em better rebranded :rofl:

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Re: People who have used all three which do you prefer and why? Sab, gb, fh? [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
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MudaFuka had something similar, I like your build.

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