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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
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The standard leftist personal attack.

Woo hoo

It's like the damn twilight zone on repeat.


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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: XUL]
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lol leftist. too bad life isnt black and white (left and right). but keep your defenses up, dont want your rightist friends to think you're leftist lol


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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: qman]
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qman said:
There's plenty of that happening on the other side as well, the anti-Trump protesters are physically assaulting journalists all the time.



You have some links where we can all read about these physical assaults which are happening all the time?

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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
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I was a lefty.

But I was redpilled around the end of Obama and start of Trump.


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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: relic]
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relic said:
qman said:
There's plenty of that happening on the other side as well, the anti-Trump protesters are physically assaulting journalists all the time.



You have some links where we can all read about these physical assaults which are happening all the time?



https://www.foxnews.com/us/antifas-violent-confrontations-with-police-journalists-mar-otherwise-peaceful-rally-counterprotesters

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-antifa-thugs-attacking-journalists-is-nothing-new

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2018/08/13/muted-outrage-fixated-on-trump-media-largely-ignores-leftwing-mob-violence-against-the-press-n2509149

And racism from the left. https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lawrence-jones-fox-news-racist-taunts-impeach-trump-rally

From a few days ago. White liberals spewing racist slurs at a black Fox News reporter. Not very surprising.


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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: relic]
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relic said:
qman said:
There's plenty of that happening on the other side as well, the anti-Trump protesters are physically assaulting journalists all the time.



You have some links where we can all read about these physical assaults which are happening all the time?



Well, back in the 1970s, the Weather Underground was setting off bombs.

A dude assaulted a right wing "amateur journalist" back in 2017, but that seems more like random violence since the attacker didn't have any connection to or know the victim in any way.

Apart from that, I'm drawing blanks.

EDIT: Oh, who could forget that one congressional baseball shooting? I guess I did, considering we've had like, 300 shootings since then, but that one was explicitly political! And from the left! Not like the right wing shooting in Dallas like, two days ago?

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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
relic said:
qman said:
There's plenty of that happening on the other side as well, the anti-Trump protesters are physically assaulting journalists all the time.



You have some links where we can all read about these physical assaults which are happening all the time?



https://www.foxnews.com/us/antifas-violent-confrontations-with-police-journalists-mar-otherwise-peaceful-rally-counterprotesters



FAIL.  That article is from some previous year and?  No physical assault of a journalist.


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https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-antifa-thugs-attacking-journalists-is-nothing-new




FAIL.  An opinion piece from a previous year about an alleged event from a foreign country?  Sttrrreeetch a little farther.

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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2018/08/13/muted-outrage-fixated-on-trump-media-largely-ignores-leftwing-mob-violence-against-the-press-n2509149



More shit from previous years about alleged attacks by some on the left against journalists.  While abhorrent if true, you have any current news about the physical assaults which you assert are happening"all the time"?

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And racism from the left. https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lawrence-jones-fox-news-racist-taunts-impeach-trump-rally



While disgusting, you failed yet again.  Stay focused. You said physical assaults.  Fail, fail, and more fail, qman. 

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Not very surprising






I get it; you're used to racist trash talk.

In light of your presented evidence, it's safe to say your "ant-trump protestors are physically assaulting journalists all the time" statement is horseshit.

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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: relic]
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https://www.foxnews.com/us/antifas-violent-confrontations-with-police-journalists-mar-otherwise-peaceful-rally-counterprotesters

"Antifa group...throwing eggs and water bottles and shooting fireworks at cops and journalists"






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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: qman] * 1
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Lol, when one side does "political violence", people get egged. When the other side does "political violence", people get dead.

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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: Kryptos]
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Why do people even show up for shit like this? Right or left, if you go a rally or to protest someone else’s rally and you get beat up, egged, pepper sprayed, or arrested it’s your own damn fault. You should have just stayed home and and waited to cast your vote in 2020 because that’s the only real power that you have. Rally’s and protests aren’t changing anybody else’s mind or influencing their votes, it’s all just a big waste of effort for both sides. I’m not looking forward to 4 1/2 years more of any of this.


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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
koods said:
This shit reminds me of the 80s when Reagan decided that The Beach Boys we’re immoral and had them removed from the July 4th concert were they had been playing for years. This will not go well. Trump got 4% of the vote in DC.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/05/us/politics/trump-4th-of-july.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

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WASHINGTON — Since early in his tenure, President Trump has sought to stage a military parade through the heart of Washington, only to be thwarted. So now he has settled on the next best thing: He will take over an existing patriotic display in the capital.

The Trump administration has ordered major changes in the traditional Fourth of July celebration that draws hundreds of thousands of people to the National Mall each year — with Mr. Trump personally taking a starring role as no other president has in modern times.

The mayor’s office in Washington said on Wednesday that it had been informed that Mr. Trump intended to address the assembled crowd from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial; his speech would presumably be televised to the nation. Critics said the move would transform what has for decades been a nonpartisan, unifying event into a political rally for a divisive president.





Get over it, it's a speech.



It’s not just the speech. They are moving the fireworks off the mall. Trump is literally ruining the fourth.


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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: koods]
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Do you go to the celebration.


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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: Kryptos] * 1
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Kryptos said:
Lol, when one side does "political violence", people get egged. When the other side does "political violence", people get dead.



Guns don't kill people. Milkshakes kill people.


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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
Do you go to the celebration.



I won’t be going. He’s turned the Fourth of July into a campaign event. People around here ARE PISSED OFF.

This isn’t going to turn out the way trump hopes. Remember he got 4% of the vote in DC.  He needs to keep his red neck Nuremberg rallies in his territory


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (06/20/19 12:38 PM)

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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: koods]
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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: koods] * 1
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Maybe I’ll go down with an air horn and a fuck trump sign. The red necks won’t be allowed to bring their guns.


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: koods]
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On the topic of Trump here I would like to officially come out as not being pro trump. I know I’ve argued that perspective before, but being perfectly honest here I think the Trump administration will end in a flaming ball of failure. I’m not talking about the Russia bullshit. I’m talking about the debt and economy. Historically a recession hits every 7 years. We are very long overdue for one, and I think this one will be much worse than the last one. I don’t think trump caused it or started it, but he certainly will get the blame.

He owned this economy and passed his tax plan which helped blow the bubble up bigger and create the illusion of increased wealth, but it’s all built on a pile of debt, and this house of cards will come crashing down. I want to come out before it does and say I jumped ship ahead of time. I’m not anti Trump, but I am very worried about the future of the economy and the potential repercussions that I think are coming in the near future. Especially with all this trade war shit. These are characteristics that are typically exhibited by an empire in decline and I think the American empire is in its very late stages.

Candidate Trump used to talk non stop about the debt and the bubble economy and then he just completely flipped on it. He didn’t have to own this economy. He never should have passed the tax plan. The trade war “has a very high likelihood of causing significant disruption to an already fragile economy” (is that better?). This isn’t going to end well. As long as he sticks to his guns on immigration though he hasn’t totally abandoned his base.


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Edited by vault123 (06/20/19 03:49 PM)

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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: vault123]
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Now don’t get me wrong. I think China needs to be stood up to and America is the only country that can do it, but I think it will have devastating consequences for everyone.


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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: vault123]
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vault123 said:
On the topic of Trump here I would like to officially come out as not being pro trump. I know I’ve argued that perspective before, but being perfectly honest here I think the Trump administration will end in a flaming ball of failure. I’m not talking about the Russia bullshit. I’m talking about the debt and economy. Historically a recession hits every 7 years. We are very long overdue for one, and I think this one will be much worse than the last one. I don’t think trump caused it or started it, but he certainly will get the blame.

He owned this economy and passed his tax plan which helped blow the bubble up bigger and create the illusion of increased wealth, but it’s all built on a pile of debt, and this house of cards will come crashing down. I want to come out before it does and say I jumped ship ahead of time. I’m not anti Trump, but I am very worried about the future of the economy and the potential repercussions that I think are coming in the near future. Especially with all this trade war shit. These are characteristics that are typically exhibited by an empire in decline and I think the American empire is in its very late stages.

Candidate Trump used to talk non stop about the debt and the bubble economy and then he just completely flipped on it. He didn’t have to own this economy. He never should have passed the tax plan. The trade war is fucking insane. This isn’t going to end well. As long as he sticks to his guns on immigration though he hasn’t totally abandoned his base.



The trade deficit "is fucking insane".  The ironic thing is Trump hasn't done enough to address it. We're still seeing all-time highs on the trade deficit AFTER the tariffs, which tells us how meaningless it was in the first place.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-trade-deficit-shrinks-to-50-8-billion-in-april

"The deficit in the trade of goods with China rose 29.7%"

There's a method to reduce the trade deficit, but Trump doesn't have that power.

"flipped on it"

The Elite got to him, it's either listen or get destroyed.

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Re: Trump wants to ruin the Fourth of July [Re: vault123] * 1
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JizzMasterZero said:
Why do people even show up for shit like this? Right or left, if you go a rally or to protest someone else’s rally and you get beat up, egged, pepper sprayed, or arrested it’s your own damn fault. You should have just stayed home and and waited to cast your vote in 2020 because that’s the only real power that you have. Rally’s and protests aren’t changing anybody else’s mind or influencing their votes, it’s all just a big waste of effort for both sides. I’m not looking forward to 4 1/2 years more of any of this.



Because it is their right.

Because protests are effective. Especially for a marginalized group wishing to draw attention to itself. Less effective than political red v blue protests, but you see claims of crowd size mattering all the time. Even here.

vault123 said:
Now don’t get me wrong. I think China needs to be stood up to and America is the only country that can do it, but I think it will have devastating consequences for everyone.



Why does China need to be stood up to?

Specifically, how? Because there are plenty of ways that China can be stood up to. US companies that don't want to follow the Chinese rules can simply choose not to do business there.

US consumers that want to bring back manufacturing to the US can demand higher wages for manufacturing jobs to attract workers, and then higher wages for everyone else so that they can actually afford shit made in the US.

It seems to me that the US wants to have its cake and eat it too, while ignoring the realities of capitalism.

Profit is king, nothing else matters.

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