split_by_nine said:

YangSupporter said:

qman said:

SARAtonin said:

The idea we don’t have enough resources to support our current population is one of the biggest fallacies of the modern age.
It’s not a question of how finite our resources are, it’s a question of how they are being allocated, a question that can’t be addressed until the baseless boundaries have been dissolved.

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We do NOT have enough of cheap energy for 8 billion people to live like US citizens, it's impossible.

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Nah we do 4th gen nuclear power and solar will get us there.

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solar can provide free energy to every human.. but then who will profit?? haha thats the sad world we live in

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YangSupporter said:

qman said:

SARAtonin said:

The idea we don’t have enough resources to support our current population is one of the biggest fallacies of the modern age.
It’s not a question of how finite our resources are, it’s a question of how they are being allocated, a question that can’t be addressed until the baseless boundaries have been dissolved.

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We do NOT have enough of cheap energy for 8 billion people to live like US citizens, it's impossible.

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Nah we do 4th gen nuclear power and solar will get us there.

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I agree, I have always been a big advocate for nuclear power. But as the world stands today, the cheap energy isn't there for most of the human population.

split_by_nine said:

he wants the profits!!!!

hey qman, do you think every single US citizen is living comfortably? there are third-world conditions right here in america buddy.

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I agree 100%, there are plenty of what I call 2nd world conditions all over the US. That's why I'm an economic nationalist, I want to improve the living conditions for millions of poor US citizens.

YangSupporter said:

Qman nationalists suck!

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specialpeopleclub said:

Your giving them too much credit speaking like that, qman. He is a yang supporter. He wants free money. He doesn't have any values.

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qman said:

YangSupporter said:

qman said:

SARAtonin said:

The idea we don’t have enough resources to support our current population is one of the biggest fallacies of the modern age.
It’s not a question of how finite our resources are, it’s a question of how they are being allocated, a question that can’t be addressed until the baseless boundaries have been dissolved.

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We do NOT have enough of cheap energy for 8 billion people to live like US citizens, it's impossible.

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Nah we do 4th gen nuclear power and solar will get us there.

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I agree, I have always been a big advocate for nuclear power. But as the world stands today, the cheap energy isn't there for most of the human population.

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SARAtonin said:

qman said:

SARAtonin said:

I’m a globalist
Nationalism and racial pride are a disease of sick minds.

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Yeah, it's pretty easy living in a first world country and living a decent life and claiming to be a "globalist".

Does buying products built on third world slave labor make you a better person than a nationalist? 

The world's billionaires are also globalists, what does that tell you?

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If you do not believe the human race has the technology to make life a complete success for every face upon this planet you are a daft fool.

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Are u perhaps referring to secret technology that the super-secret military current possesses but does not share?

YangSupporter said:

I want money for all struggling Americans. You should to it would destroy poverty in this country.

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YangSupporter said:

Also I was just ribbing on Qman I meant nothing by it.

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Your so funneee!

lowbrow said:

YangSupporter said:

I want money for all struggling Americans. You should to it would destroy poverty in this country.

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No it will create poverty.

YangSupporter said:

Also I was just ribbing on Qman I meant nothing by it.

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Your so funneee!

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specialpeopleclub said:

Your giving them too much credit speaking like that, qman. He is a yang supporter. He wants free money. He doesn't have any values.
To not be a nationalist you have to either misinterpret what it is(associate it with nazis), be self hating, or have some idea that geography isn't important.

The last one I find incredibly troubling. I know we get alot of things from far away, but you still get most of the food you eat from the state you live in, and you can't be part of a community you don't live in in any meaningful way

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qman said:

specialpeopleclub said:

Your giving them too much credit speaking like that, qman. He is a yang supporter. He wants free money. He doesn't have any values.
To not be a nationalist you have to either misinterpret what it is(associate it with nazis), be self hating, or have some idea that geography isn't important.

The last one I find incredibly troubling. I know we get alot of things from far away, but you still get most of the food you eat from the state you live in, and you can't be part of a community you don't live in in any meaningful way

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Well here's the thing. When someone has the 'save the world' mentality, it's the perfect excuse to do nothing since the task is completely unmanageable and logistically impossible.

When you suggest to them to help people in their own nation or community, they scream nationalism is harmful and won't help anybody as a result.

This concept of being a "globalist" is the biggest cop out there is, that's why so many people gravitate towards that position.

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specialpeopleclub said:

What our priorities are there besides your nation?

Well international relations and trade for one the world is very interconnected. For example Trumps China tariffs are going to raise the price on common products for ordinary Americans all to spite China. We need a leader who has a strong understanding of world affairs and our role in the world.
I'm not saying universal basic income is the worst idea, just that one needs to make some very good economic arguments as to why it's a favorable idea.
I believe with the current economic climate and the fact that American life expectancy has declined for the third year in a row that there are serious problems in American society. Half of Americans can't afford a five hundred dollar emergency thats a problem that UBI fixes.

Considering how pedestrian our debates are, I doubt anything of substance will be said.
You may be right on this point.

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YangSupporter said:

specialpeopleclub said:

What our priorities are there besides your nation?

Well international relations and trade for one the world is very interconnected. For example Trumps China tariffs are going to raise the price on common products for ordinary Americans all to spite China. We need a leader who has a strong understanding of world affairs and our role in the world.
I'm not saying universal basic income is the worst idea, just that one needs to make some very good economic arguments as to why it's a favorable idea.
I believe with the current economic climate and the fact that American life expectancy has declined for the third year in a row that there are serious problems in American society. Half of Americans can't afford a five hundred dollar emergency thats a problem that UBI fixes.

Considering how pedestrian our debates are, I doubt anything of substance will be said.
You may be right on this point.

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Tantrika said:

guess my question for US posters is something along the lines of
what do you most love about living in the US...

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