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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: life is good]
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Denying the existence of a people is like the rudest thing you can do.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: life is good] * 2
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it seems to me that the pro-nationalism folks are afraid that their nation isnt strong enough to survive an influx of new people and that they think their nation cannot withstand new traditions and will ultimately be transformed into a nation they dont recognize. they dont like change.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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No, people don't like unidentifiable people coming here and then using up all of our social programs.
Stopping it would put an end to a lot of shady sex trafficking, drug killings, disease. Our education system doesn't even work properly because people come here and speak 0 english

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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: Konyap]
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unidentifiable people are not eligible for social programs. you need to be a us citizen or green card (or permanent resident card) holder.

so thats not really an argument buddy.

you think US citizens are innocent of those crimes? you really believe its only foreigners that traffic drugs and humans? and lol disease? really?

the whites brought most modern diseases to this land many centuries ago.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: Konyap]
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non English speakers dont fair well in an English only curriculum.. how in your mind do they disrupt that system? your saying our english speaking education system fails english speaking people people because of ones that speak very little english? a very strange argument you are trying to make


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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life is good said:
Denying the existence of a people is like the rudest thing you can do.



They aren't an ethnic group. I don't mind being rude. There are Jewish Palestinians too,though not many. Considering they are not in a position to make demands or win, they should choose other options. They don't.



It's more then reasonable to want my culture to flourish and not be replaced by others. It's more than reasonable, it's like, a biological imperative.
It doesn't surprise me that people use language that puts the owness on the culture inviting others in not to be changed as though it's weak.
Historically, influxes of new people havent ever caused prosperity, only problems for the people already there.
split_by_nine said:
unidentifiable people are not eligible for social programs. you need to be a us citizen or green card (or permanent resident card) holder.

so thats not really an argument buddy.

you think US citizens are innocent of those crimes? you really believe its only foreigners that traffic drugs and humans? and lol disease? really?

the whites brought most modern diseases to this land many centuries ago.



The Spanish brought the disease. Different people.
It doesn't matter if the people here commit the crimes. Those people deserve to be prosecuted too. It's worse when an outsider comes in and does so.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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unidentifiable people are not eligible for social programs. you need to be a us citizen or green card (or permanent resident card) holder.




3 billion a year

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the whites brought most modern diseases to this land many centuries ago.



racist bullshit

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speak very little english



try questioning them to see what they say
you can't they revert to spanish mode

and they don't have car insurance too

illegals are a drain on the system

Edited by Konyap (05/18/19 12:55 AM)

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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: Konyap]
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The welfare definition in both studies includes free and reduced school lunches, which is “not specifically to people who have applied for assistance,” as The Associated Press notes.

Moreover, specific welfare programs, such as cash assistance and housing, actually have native households using more of these benefits than immigrant households.

“Making the point that half of immigrant households use welfare is not true,” said Kim Rueben, an Urban Institute senior fellow who’s also on the National Academy’s research panel.

The same National Academy study found that less than 50 percent of immigrant households use Medicaid and food assistance as well.

The progressive Center for American Progress said that comparing the two groups is like comparing welfare in a highly developed country to that of “an underdeveloped country.”

“I think there’s a lot more context needed,” said Wendy Cervantes, an immigration policy analyst at the Center for Law and Social Policy in Washington D.C. “Studies need to account for income.”

We should also note that qualified immigrants that are new to the United States are “generally banned” from receiving welfare benefits in their first five years.

University of California, Davis Law School Dean and immigration expert Kevin Johnson said immigrants cannot be over consuming public benefits because they are not eligible to receive the benefits in the first place.

“To say that the general rate of use by immigrants of public benefits is anywhere close to 50 percent is an exaggeration and just isn’t supported by the evidence,” he said.

To recap, the Trump administration’s claim that the majority -- more than 50 percent -- of immigrant households use welfare leaves out important context.

Native households use even more of these benefits in certain categories.





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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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car insurance? lol thats a reach


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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When you guys speak in vague generalities, like "some people don't like change" and "if a nation doesn't want a different people" and you're trying to imply which nation you're referring to via context, I totally can't tell if you're talking about America/Mexico or Israel/Palestine. Lol


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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the whites brought most modern diseases to this land many centuries ago.



they got polio centuries before that wiped out 90% of their population
when they come over they bring aids, measles, all the stuff your kids get vaccinated for come here through illegals

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they use up our emergency rooms, pop out kids, bring their whole family here, can't deny them if just one person is legal (the baby)
get in car crashes they don't speak english all of a sudden
net loss on the economy, just like women

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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: Konyap]
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The Spanish brought the disease. Different people.
It doesn't matter if the people here commit the crimes. Those people deserve to be prosecuted too. It's worse when an outsider comes in and does so.



when you compare people to the rates of crimes amoung certain groups of course their crime rate looks low

compare them by themselves a completely different story

95% of murders are commited by those groups in my state

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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: LightShedder]
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i think it applies to both. people are afraid that their beliefs are at risk of being changed by someone outside of their home.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: LightShedder]
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LightShedder said:
When you guys speak in vague generalities, like "some people don't like change" and "if a nation doesn't want a different people" and you're trying to imply which nation you're referring to via context, I totally can't tell if you're talking about America/Mexico or Israel/Palestine. Lol



We're referring to the transgressions of the Alpaca people upon the Llama nation :kingcrankey:


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: twighead]
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these pro-nationalism folks talk about the economy as if they are major players in it lol we are all small potatoes and nothing noteworthy will happen to us if immigrants enter this country or not.

economically speaking.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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It isn't beliefs,it's a physical reality. If yo took half a nation and made it a different ethnic group with different beliefs then the people and their descendants that started the nation, it isn't that nation anymore in a fundamental way
split_by_nine said:
these pro-nationalism folks talk about the economy as if they are major players in it lol we are all small potatoes and nothing noteworthy will happen to us if immigrants enter this country or not.

economically speaking.



The common people are the ones that suffer the most because of things like lower labor values


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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specialpeoplesclub said:
It isn't beliefs,it's a physical reality. If yo took half a nation and made it a different ethnic group with different beliefs then the people and their descendants that started the nation, it isn't that nation anymore in a fundamental way




lmao this is how America was made. derp


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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the common people are the ones that suffer the most in general. immigrants or not.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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America was relatively homogenous untill the 20th century immegration. Mostly English and German


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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split_by_nine said:
specialpeoplesclub said:
It isn't beliefs,it's a physical reality. If yo took half a nation and made it a different ethnic group with different beliefs then the people and their descendants that started the nation, it isn't that nation anymore in a fundamental way




lmao this is how America was made. derp




Lolz... Yeah. A relatively undeveloped and uncivilized, by Western standards, entire two continents- big ones with lots and lots of resources, too- was settled by what was, given the results, an obviously vastly superior technologically sophisticated group- Europeans- and the comparatively undeveloped native peoples that resisted like they should have lost that resistance and now the long established western European ethnic/cultural people are understandably threatened by a demographic shift away from that and you expect those of European heritage to sit and watch it happen without a peep? Did the righteous of the natives sit back and watch their nation be conquered?


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