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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: ichugwindex]
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ichugwindex said:
What used to be called patriotism is now called xenophobia


perhaps im just speculating, but patriotism in the USA was congruent with the notion that anyone can come here and have a happy, successful life and family. 

xenophobia in the USA is thinking only certain folks should be allowed to live in the USA


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: qman]
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You completely miss what I'm saying. If we have no nation's, then how will we protect property? I'd have no right to refuse these people if they had the means to bend me, because there would be no outside threats to protect me. You saying ai have a right to not help is meaningless, because they would make me.

Nationalism is about security, and the pragmatic reality that if you don't work in your own self interest, other groups that take on this way of thinking will take advantage of you for their own.

We aren't all one group. A nation is people similar enough to work together.
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split_by_nine said:
borders are intended to divide people. look at the gerrymandering within the districts in the USA. politicians use legilative power to achieve goals that benefit the rich and are bemoaned when they try to help the poor.


Yes, that's what borders do, they divide people based on citizenship. That's the whole point of a nation state.  Why is this basic commonsense so difficult to comprehend?

It's the same reason why my property has a border and my door has a lock on it, to create a divide between myself and other humans.


They don't get that once you removed the nation state, your personal property becomes meaningless and another culture can come in and make their own boundries


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
split_by_nine said:
borders are intended to divide people. look at the gerrymandering within the districts in the USA. politicians use legilative power to achieve goals that benefit the rich and are bemoaned when they try to help the poor.


Yes, that's what borders do, they divide people based on citizenship. That's the whole point of a nation state.  Why is this basic commonsense so difficult to comprehend?

It's the same reason why my property has a border and my door has a lock on it, to create a divide between myself and other humans.


its not hard to comprehend. its just not the accepted worldview of every living person.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
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split_by_nine said:
you dont have an obligation to open your house to anyone, but IMO it makes you a beter person if you choose to do so. one who helps is more admirable than one who chooses to not help.

you dont sound mean and no, its not your responsibility to help anyone, period. but stepping up and doing so shows that you are passionate about the wellbeing of others and thats a good thing. i dont think it makes someone a bad person if they dont have the ways and means to help others.. but i find it hard to swallow that the gov't squanders billions of dollars on things that dont help humanity but rather make it worse for others whom already suffer.


Nationalism focuses on helping people in your community first, instead of people that live thousands of miles away.

Trying to create some narrative that being nationalistic means you're not compassionate to disadvantaged humans is completely outrageous.

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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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personal property is meaningless. its a construct of human-enforced values. the world was not created for you to buy or own it.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine] * 2
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split_by_nine said:
ichugwindex said:
What used to be called patriotism is now called xenophobia


perhaps im just speculating, but patriotism in the USA was congruent with the notion that anyone can come here and have a happy, successful life and family. 

xenophobia in the USA is thinking only certain folks should be allowed to live in the USA


You're completely wrong here. Patriotism in the US had NOTHING to do with unregulated immigration in the US.

For 90% of US history, immigration into the US was highly discriminatory based on country of origin.

How do you think the US became the worlds economic and military superpower, by pure chance?  No, by highly regulating the demographic makeup of the population.

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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
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Are these people imposing their own nationalism within this nation and state? A nation/culture within a nation/culture?
https://video.foxnews.com/v/4818427365001/#sp=show-clips

<script type="text/javascript" src="https://proxy.mind-media.com/proxy.php?url=https%3A%2F%2Fvideo.foxnews.com%2Fv%3Cwbr%3E%2Fembed.js%3Fid%3D4818427365001%26w%3D466%26%3Cwbr%3Eh%3D263"></script><noscript>Watch the latest video at <a href="https://www.foxnews.com">foxnews.com</a></noscript>


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine] * 2
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split_by_nine said:
qman said:
split_by_nine said:
borders are intended to divide people. look at the gerrymandering within the districts in the USA. politicians use legilative power to achieve goals that benefit the rich and are bemoaned when they try to help the poor.


Yes, that's what borders do, they divide people based on citizenship. That's the whole point of a nation state.  Why is this basic commonsense so difficult to comprehend?

It's the same reason why my property has a border and my door has a lock on it, to create a divide between myself and other humans.


its not hard to comprehend. its just not the accepted worldview of every living person.


It's accepted by enough people that every nation in the world has citizenship, national borders and national sovereignty.

Maybe you should go find a group of people that think like you do. You can abandon all forms of property rights and citizenship. Let us know how that works you for you.  :rofl2:

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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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well i for one have no direct contact with people attempting to immigrate to the USA and i doubt you do either. that being said, how can you so easily discriminate against those youve never seen, heard or even know?


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
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it would work out great for me. for you i suspect not so much. and thats okay.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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we are obviously very different. you feel strongly about your values and convictions and that is your perogative.

you cant put me in your worst scenario and think we would have the same results.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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i dont think your citizenship will hold any water in the afterlife. but if you wana rapidly wave your flag while here on earth, be my guest.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
SARAtonin said:
I’m a globalist :shrug:
Nationalism and racial pride are a disease of sick minds.


Yeah, it's pretty easy living in a first world country and living a decent life and claiming to be a "globalist".

Does buying products built on third world slave labor make you a better person than a nationalist?  :lol:

The world's billionaires are also globalists, what does that tell you?


If you do not believe the human race has the technology to make life a complete success for every face upon this planet you are a daft fool.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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I'm not discriminating nor do I. I was seeing what SPC thought of that vid, and others.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
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Do you know that a distilled form of what Buddhists refer to as enlightenment could be explained as 'the time when one realises that all separation is delusion'?

I think that anything that fosters the delusion of separation is not good for ourselves, our fellow humans, or the world we live on and the other life that inhabits it.

We don't exactly live in a world that's great for all those things (in fact, it's pretty much indisputably bad for them) I just mentioned and I think nationalism is one of the main causes of, if not the main cause of, that fact.

Any arguments that can be made for it pale in comparison to that realisation, IMO.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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I agree. Getting others to see and do is another story. The parents train the kids and so on. BUT, every generation gets a little more filtered and hopefully there will be a time globalist ideas and way of being will be the norm. I like the Gaian earth theory and it could apply here maybe.


Overall, the Gaia Theory is a compelling new way of understanding life on our planet. It argues that we are far more than just the “Third Rock from the Sun,” situated precariously between freezing and burning up. The theory asserts that living organisms and their inorganic surroundings have evolved together as a single living system that greatly affects the chemistry and conditions of Earth’s surface. Some scientists believe that this “Gaian system” self-regulates global temperature, atmospheric content, ocean salinity, and other factors in an “automatic” manner. Earth’s living system appears to keep conditions on our planet just right for life to persist! The Gaia Theory has already inspired ideas and practical applications for economic systems, policy, scientific inquiry, and other valuable work. The future holds more of the same.


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine] * 1
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split_by_nine said:
well i for one have no direct contact with people attempting to immigrate to the USA and i doubt you do either. that being said, how can you so easily discriminate against those youve never seen, heard or even know?


Every nation discriminates based on citizenship.  Don't attempt to suggest I'm the person who is discriminating against people for no valid reason, it's not true.

split_by_nine said:
i dont think your citizenship will hold any water in the afterlife. but if you wana rapidly wave your flag while here on earth, be my guest.


This isn't s spiritual issue. It's called living in the real world and doing what's best for everyone.  Do you really think a border less world is going to benefit humanity as a whole? It wouldn't, it would make it worse.

The US already has massive wealth inequality today with just 330 million people. What do you think happens when there's a billion people living here?  It would turn into a shit hole in short order.

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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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i was just about to try and touch on that! thank you T-rex!


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: split_by_nine]
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so you think being a nationalist excuses someone from abhorrent behavior because the neighbors do it too?


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Re: What do you think of nationalism? [Re: SARAtonin]
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SARAtonin said:
qman said:
SARAtonin said:
I’m a globalist :shrug:
Nationalism and racial pride are a disease of sick minds.


Yeah, it's pretty easy living in a first world country and living a decent life and claiming to be a "globalist".

Does buying products built on third world slave labor make you a better person than a nationalist?  :lol:

The world's billionaires are also globalists, what does that tell you?


If you do not believe the human race has the technology to make life a complete success for every face upon this planet you are a daft fool.


What does that have to do with anything?  Technology has been flowing throughout the entire world for decades now. African's use cell phones before they even got land lines.

Maybe you should define what being a "globalist" is?  Nationalism isn't complete isolation by any means, it's just putting your own community before others outside of it. There's nothing morally wrong about that practice.

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