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Re: Coir layer at spawn causing small fruits [Re: woofwoof]
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:confused: Those aren't necesarily small or densly packed, that looks normal & sparse, with some reaching towards light like shaper's. Blue/UV would be different from insufficient light i think as well.

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Re: Coir layer at spawn causing small fruits [Re: LtLurker]
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That was 367 wet grams in the first flush for the one closer to the light and 263 wet grams in the first flush from the other, both the same genetics, both standard shoeboxes mixed 2:1 with only 1 qt of spawn each, the difference being a separation of about 10 inches from the light source.

The tub closer to the light eventually produced 3.2 dry oz off of one qt jar of spawn in three flushes.

That’s not bad.


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Re: Coir layer at spawn causing small fruits [Re: LtLurker]
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:takingnotes::popcorn:

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Re: Coir layer at spawn causing small fruits [Re: Feasoghorm]
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So your experiment is about light proximity, not so much uv or low light conditions causing small fruits like originally said? I'm kinda confused with how this had anything to do with low light causing small fruits.

I wouldn't be surprised if bad lighting gives lower yields on average, but the original problem was small fruits, not low yield with outstretched mushrooms.

/e here's one I had same issue. Light was close but to side, not above. Not a clone or isolate or anything, but was less than average of it's siblings. Not small for sure.

Edited by LtLurker (04/09/19 08:01 PM)

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Re: Coir layer at spawn causing small fruits [Re: LtLurker]
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The proportion of stems in the weight of carpophores ranged from 11 to 42% de- pending on strain, lighting intensity and light exposure time. P20 strain was charac- terised by the smallest proportion (11-16%) of stems in carpophores; short stems are typical for this strain and in comparison with other strains, the length of their stems is least dependent on variations in lighting. In the case of the remaining strains, the percentage proportion of the stem weight in the carpophore weight was consider- ably higher ranging from 25 to 42%, depending on the lighting regime. In general, it can be said that the better the lighting conditions, the smaller was the proportion of the stem weight in the carpophore weight. It is true that when lighting conditions deteriorated, the stem also became thinner but it also became longer and this caused that the stem weight increased affecting its percentage proportion in the carpophore weight.



https://pbsociety.org.pl/journals/index.php/am/article/viewFile/am.2012.008/2202

Yeah, I know, it’s oyster mushrooms, but peer reviewed cube research is rare.  It does lend credence to the idea if more than one species of mushroom responds this way to light.

I didn’t believe it was as important as it is when RR and Bod gave me an education.  Now that I have begun toying around with the lights in preparation for the next study I’m going to do, I’ve come to believe light to be the single most important variable for growing. 

Cubes evolved laying in the fields under the summer sun.  Their whole world is governed by four things: composition of the manure, humidity, heat, and sunlight.


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Re: Coir layer at spawn causing small fruits [Re: Ep1429]
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Oysters do react different, but that's still really not relavent to this thread's question. This is a troubleshooting. Usually when someone says they have small fruits they mean little Stubby things, not slightly less Stipe tissue mass than expected. And the typical cause for stubby fruits is oversat or genetics. None of our low light examples or that quote, look even close to small fruits.

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Re: Coir layer at spawn causing small fruits [Re: LtLurker]
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We don’t know what “small fruits” looks like in this case.  Woof never posted a pic, which means that we are all using the word “small” subjectively.


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Re: Coir layer at spawn causing small fruits [Re: ShaperDreaming]
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ShaperDreaming said:
How are you prepping your coir? Bucket tek?

How thick of a layer did you add? It should only be about 1/8-1/4". I use up to 1/2" for PE tho.

What ratio are you spawning at? 1:1? 2:1? I tend to stick to 2:1 as it seems like sometimes 1:1 throws off undesirable mutations (such as in Rusty Whytes getting blobby at 1:1)

I tend to get my coir just below field capacity (can't really squeeze out any water, maybe one drop at most), then spawn it with my grains, and put a layer on top of coir only. I then mist that top layer to direct mushroom growth up as it likes the more hydrated stuff (but so does everything else). I can literally give my shoe boxes to people who never touch them until harvest and get really good results from them (for example my friend just harvest almost 350g PE from one of my shoeboxes I gave them).

I hope it works out for you!



I'm actually going to try this lol. Different from what I've been doing. Will see how well it works.


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Re: Coir layer at spawn causing small fruits [Re: Ep1429]
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Ep1429 said:
We don’t know what “small fruits” looks like in this case.  Woof never posted a pic, which means that we are all using the word “small” subjectively.



True, I'm leaning on past experience with these kinda posts. He could mean lanky and long, in which case, i'd agree it's possibly a light issue.

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