LtLurker said:

Light shouldn't make your fruits small. Usually low light makes skrangly shrooms stretching out for whatever light they can sense.

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When I was moving I had way shit lighting circumstances... here's what much less than 12/12 looks like from a lighting source far away (maybe like 1-2 hours of direct light per day, with 5-6 hours of indirect light):



I did correct this for the last day-ish, so they swichted directions to up for opening their veils. I had ones that open sideways tho in a different box from much earlier before I understood how to provide good lighting.

LtLurker said:

I wouldn't even think of that as low light tbh shaper. They look well formed and in proportion, just chasing light off to the side instead of above.

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woofwoof said:

Yes, my other boxes with same coir prep with no layer were fine, its the boxes that had a small 1/4 layer of coir on top are the ones producing small fruits

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ShaperDreaming said:

you may just have had bad genetics

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LtLurker said:

Light shouldn't make your fruits small. Usually low light makes skrangly shrooms stretching out for whatever light they can sense.

I'd bet it's over saturated casing or substrate. There's a feel to it like anything else. Too thick, thin, wet or dry will alter your results.

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Actually, you’d be surprised at that.  I was.  It’s the effect of a blue/UV light.  The mushrooms are smaller and more densely packed when exposed to blue light during pinning, according to the scientific research.

Check out my thread in the Grow Logs on microtopography, you can clearly see the difference light makes.

Ep1429 said:

LtLurker said:

Light shouldn't make your fruits small. Usually low light makes skrangly shrooms stretching out for whatever light they can sense.

I'd bet it's over saturated casing or substrate. There's a feel to it like anything else. Too thick, thin, wet or dry will alter your results.

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Actually, you’d be surprised at that.  I was.  It’s the effect of a blue/UV light.  The mushrooms are smaller and more densely packed when exposed to blue light during pinning, according to the scientific research.

Check out my thread in the Grow Logs on microtopography, you can clearly see the difference light makes.

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The proportion of stems in the weight of carpophores ranged from 11 to 42% de- pending on strain, lighting intensity and light exposure time. P20 strain was charac- terised by the smallest proportion (11-16%) of stems in carpophores; short stems are typical for this strain and in comparison with other strains, the length of their stems is least dependent on variations in lighting. In the case of the remaining strains, the percentage proportion of the stem weight in the carpophore weight was consider- ably higher ranging from 25 to 42%, depending on the lighting regime. In general, it can be said that the better the lighting conditions, the smaller was the proportion of the stem weight in the carpophore weight. It is true that when lighting conditions deteriorated, the stem also became thinner but it also became longer and this caused that the stem weight increased affecting its percentage proportion in the carpophore weight.

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ShaperDreaming said:

How are you prepping your coir? Bucket tek?

How thick of a layer did you add? It should only be about 1/8-1/4". I use up to 1/2" for PE tho.

What ratio are you spawning at? 1:1? 2:1? I tend to stick to 2:1 as it seems like sometimes 1:1 throws off undesirable mutations (such as in Rusty Whytes getting blobby at 1:1)

I tend to get my coir just below field capacity (can't really squeeze out any water, maybe one drop at most), then spawn it with my grains, and put a layer on top of coir only. I then mist that top layer to direct mushroom growth up as it likes the more hydrated stuff (but so does everything else). I can literally give my shoe boxes to people who never touch them until harvest and get really good results from them (for example my friend just harvest almost 350g PE from one of my shoeboxes I gave them).

I hope it works out for you!

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Ep1429 said:

We don’t know what “small fruits” looks like in this case.  Woof never posted a pic, which means that we are all using the word “small” subjectively.

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