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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Feasoghorm]
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No fan, just lids flipped from day 1, no misting. That's what I would do. Why is your sub cracked in half? Try to remember this is a living organism and you don't need to fuck with it. Just hive it food, water, and a place to live at the beginning and then just sit back and watch it thrive.


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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Failboat]
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I would get rid of those green tubs asap

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Failboat]
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I cut it in half to make easier to move around to get side/bottom pins. These be my first tubs in a completely different set up. Almost like starting from scratch.

Pretty sure i got it now. Thnk i jst had to get to the point where i was kinda pissed off. I knew this B+ tub was gonna get hammered cuz it be my first tub with new set up. I can see where i went wrong with the PE so far, but im pretty sure i got it down now. Thnx yall.

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Caps McGee]
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So now i finally understand that if i mist any more than what is necessary to keep the sub from drying on the top then it's too much. Other than letting the sub get to where it looks like it cud use a spritz, i have no other way of knowing when to/not to mist.

Im super impressed with this tub. I put it through hell, it's on it's 4th flush, and it's still pinning. Got some aborts happening though.

And im still having an FAE issue me thinks.



This pin was left over from the last flush so the others are not so fuzzy, but still.
I replaced the clear packing tape covering the two 2" mod holes in the "front" of this tub with that medical spore tape shit so we'll see if that helps. Cuz other than that, if i choose to continue to use this grow area, the other options i have are prop the upside down lid up with spacers a little at a time until no more fuzzy stockings.

How is there suppose to be FAE with a no mod tub anyway? When i open the lids of my tubs, the air inside is warm and humid and seems stale.

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Feasoghorm]
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Flip the lid over and u can even turn it a little to allow more air in.

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: nube424]
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My lids are flipped. When i lift the lid the air inside comes flowing out. Its warm, wet, dank air.

Im trying to figure out proper FAE now.
My PE tub is doing it's thing. It's got some bacteria going on but the myc is strong and it jst needs to fucking pin already. Been almost 2 1/2 wks.

That tub is easy to deal with as far as misting. I jst let the sub surface start to lighten a shade or two then i onw it needs a spritz. But what of the FAE. This B+ tub smells like mildew and is def on its last flush. I dnt want to have the same FAE prob with the PE.

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Feasoghorm]
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Turn the lid slightly so that you have a gap in opposite corners too small to put your finger in... increase in increments as needed... you can dial FAE from nothing to open air in this fashion

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Caps McGee]
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Oh! thats all?
I thought FAE meant there had to be some kinda air flow exchanging stale air with fresh air, otherwise it's gas exchange. Actually i dnt knw the difference lol

So i'll know the sweet spot when..? I have to mist once a day to keep from drying out? I only have to mist my PE tub once a day so the surface doesnt get too dry. Does this mean i have found the sweet spot for that tub?

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Feasoghorm]
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Cubes have a high CO2 tolerance factor. Tilting/skewing the lid like Caps^ told you will give you all the FAE, (or free air exchange) you need. Lots of new growers make the mistake of using fans or whatevs to blow air all over the joint in an attempt to increase FAE -you don't need that. It is EZ to over think these things, so don't feel bad.

Keep things moist but not wet, allow for some air to enter your tub, and you should be rockin' it in no time. There is a bit of an art to the whole deal, but it becomes second nature as you gain experience.

You seem to have the proper attitude towards this, so don't sweat it! :thumbup:

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: scarabaeus]
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i haven't fooled with non mod tubs enough to tell you the sweet spot with them. I tried a few times was already used to the standard mono setup so just kept rolling with it. I don't have to mist my monos at all until after the first flush unless i "put into fruiting conditions" at spawning.

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: verum subsequentis]
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I hear ya verum subs...  It just goes to show the various ways that cubies can be grown. One tek comes out claiming to be the best, and then sooner or later another tek comes out refuting the old grow concepts. Personally, I grow in dishwasher tubs placed inside of a fruiting chamber (ice coolers). I never recommend my method though because nobody else is doing it, and IMO the best info is the info that will get the best results for the masses.
But there is info that is common to all ways of growing, whether it be modified tubs, unmodified tubs, or something else entirely! The free exchange of info is what keeps me coming back to this site.:headbang:

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: scarabaeus]
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Gotcha. Ok, awesome. Thanks a bunch for yalls help!

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Feasoghorm]
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Gas exchange is on a molecular level, and generally applies to spawn: the substrate produces heat through metabolism, which churns the air though convection currents... this action iys enough to provide FAE with the lid cracked

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Caps McGee]
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Could not have said it better even if I had the energy to do so! Spot on Caps!:heart:

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: scarabaeus]
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i don't know. it was alright but without the word "thermogenesis" it just doesn't have the same pizzazz.

:douchewink:

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Caps McGee]
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Lmmfao...
Caps McGee said:
Gas exchange is on a molecular level, and generally applies to spawn: the substrate produces heat through a metabolic mechanism known as thermogenisis, which churns the air by way of convection currents... this action iys enough to provide FAE with the lid cracked




THERE!Lol

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Caps McGee]
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Well said, sir. you are a gentleman and a scholar

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: verum subsequentis]
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Alright!

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Caps McGee]
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:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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Re: Super fuzzy feets and wtf is that? [Re: Feasoghorm]
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Didn't read the thread but that tub is drenched in the first post. That's why they look goofy and the pinset is sparse.

I personally don't think fuzzy feat has really much to do with FAE at all. Open air grows get fuzzy feet. There's different kinds too. Most of the time it looks like the mycelium is trying to make extra surface area to evaporate off excess moisture at least that's my guess. But ive seem grows in bags without fuzzy feet and grows open air with. So the FAE thing doesn't really add up for me.

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