Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

vault123 said:

Alright I watched your videos. The second one says absolutely nothing about race so I don’t see how that contributes to your point about “the whiter you are the better you are treated on average.” It just says that some people are more advantaged than others. Which I don’t think anyone would disagree with. That certainly does prove your point about “white privilege either though.

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Exactly.  The point of the second video was to demonstrate that people in the front row are less likely to complain than those in the back, who are at a disadvantage.  Now the question is, is there evidence that dark skinned people are at a disadvantage, which is what the first video shows.

vault123 said:

As far as the first one goes, I’ve seen it before. The MSM is always trying to find some way of demonizing and vilifying white males it’s like their thing. Seen the Gillette commercial recently?

So just because they have a motive while they’re making it that doesn’t necessarily mean that their claim is wrong or isn’t supported by any evidence, it just says they have an agenda.

The video itself though is anecdotal. That doesnt prove any “average” or trend, and you can find anecdotal videos like that all over the internet.

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Their 'agenda' was determine whether blacks would get treated differently that whites.  And the answer was very clearly yes.  Countless studies have confirmed that blacks are treated differently than whites.  I posted [url=https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGRV_enUS756US756&ei=avxpWuqXHYLQjwPJ7pmoAg&q=statistics "white privilege"]this[/url] for XUL in another thread.

vault123 said:

Remember this gem?

Is that “proof” of systemic misogynistic gender based oppression? Or is it propaganda explicitly created with with a very specific result in mind?

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It's the former, although I'm not sure I'd call that 'systemic misogynistic gender based oppression'.

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vault123 said:

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You could probably rent it for free from your local library, but to illustrate my point I will debunk my source that I listed with this one:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-bias-hiring-0504-biz-20160503-story.html

For every source that you find that "nails down" the "solid proof" of white privilege you can find another showing the exact opposite.

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Did you even read the entire article?

"If I got a resume in the mail for Chloe Washington or Ryan Jefferson it would be hard for me to imagine that I would have interpreted that differently from Megan Anderson or Bryan Thompson," said Northwestern University professor David Figlio...

That's right, the black sounding names in this study are names like Chloe Washington and Ryan Jefferson. They didn't use first names more common to blacks.

I guess Cosby was right. Don't name your kids Lakisha or Deshawn if you want them to get job interviews.

vault123 said:

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I will debunk my source that I listed with this one:

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I thought this was your point.

Thundermuscle75 said:

I guess Cosby was right. Don't name your kids Lakisha or Deshawn if you want them to get job interviews.

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Thundermuscle75 said:

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That's right, the black sounding names in this study are names like Chloe Washington and Ryan Jefferson. They didn't use first names more common to blacks.

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Oh, well, there you go. I guess you proved me wrong. White privilege does exist. Forget all that nonsense about affirmative action hiring and p-hacking. This proves it. Sorry I was too stupid to realize it sooner. Thank you for showing me the error in my ways.

MagicMush123 said:

This thread is for debating the merits of open or closed border policies. Lets use America for our topic and discuss whether or not a open border policy would MakeAmericaGreatAgian or cripple it.
I personally think America couldn't handle a open border policy. So prove me right or prove me wrong, the microphone is on you guys. Discuss!

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meltdowner said:

MagicMush123 said:

This thread is for debating the merits of open or closed border policies. Lets use America for our topic and discuss whether or not a open border policy would MakeAmericaGreatAgian or cripple it.
I personally think America couldn't handle a open border policy. So prove me right or prove me wrong, the microphone is on you guys. Discuss!

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I honestly thought open borders was a meme. You dont have a country with open borders...

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vault123 said:

Ok, so let’s say you go and find the definitive, scholarly, peer reviewed article, complete with large sample sizes and bayesian analytics. Does this “prove” beyond a shadow of a doubt the illusive”white privilege” we hear about on CNN everyday?

Not necessarily. If youve never heard of “p-hacking” you might find this video interesting.

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koods said:

XUL said:

Then Warren falls in somewhere at 1/10101834637

Let's find out who has the most white in their family and claim they have privilege. Everyone will fall into a parameter and be labeled by whiteness.

This is Racist garbage that the left has been pushing since they fought to keep slavery.

It's Orwellian garbage that needs to be openly rejected.

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You are completely consumed with race

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MagicMush123 said:

I think initially the us and canads would be crippled if all of a sudden our borders were open. I think all of south America would basically emigrate here and would stress our existing infrastructure etc. Which could set us up to enter a recession and possibly make us too weak to recover. Then while we're "weak" another country could take us over or push us around. The only way i could really see open borders working is if the whole or most of the world followed suit. If only north America did, that would be a recipe for disaster. But if we all did it, worldwide, then maybe then i could see it working

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shivas.wisdom said:

MagicMush123 said:

I think initially the us and canads would be crippled if all of a sudden our borders were open. I think all of south America would basically emigrate here and would stress our existing infrastructure etc. Which could set us up to enter a recession and possibly make us too weak to recover. Then while we're "weak" another country could take us over or push us around. The only way i could really see open borders working is if the whole or most of the world followed suit. If only north America did, that would be a recipe for disaster. But if we all did it, worldwide, then maybe then i could see it working

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Yeah, my thought is definitely worldwide when I'm talking about 'no borders'. And although maybe it won't happen in the immediate present, if you look at the historical trend borders are on their way out.

As human society grows increasingly complex, and transportation and communication technologies overcome the challenge of distance, our concept of 'right to freedom of movement' has grown to cover an increasingly larger area; from super-fragmented tribalism to areas spanning entire continents.

It's not a huge stretch of imagination to see where this is heading: the eventually recognition that the freedom of movement around the entire globe as a fundamental human right.

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vault123 said:

As far as "countless studies that prove white privilege" you haven't provided even one. If there was all this irrefutable evidence, surely you could provide even one scholarly article or peer reviewed journal. The link you posted was just a google search. Sorry that doesn't prove anything. Even a decent youtube video with sources would work, not an anecdotal incident, something with sources and citations.

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vault123 said:

About that video I posted. you answered "the former, although I'm not sure I'd call that systemic misogynistic gender based oppression." sorry, that's not true, the video is bullshit. It's been debunked many times.

Here's a good response video to it if you wanted a specific rebuttal.

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vault123 said:

Now a piece of information that you could use as evidence for white privilege would be something like this:

https://www.shatteringtheceiling.com/bias-hiring-process/

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vault123 said:

If you're not familiar with the manipulation of statistics to illicit a desired response this book should help out quite a bit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies,_damned_lies,_and_statistics

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vault123 said:

to illustrate my point I will debunk my source that I listed with this one:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-bias-hiring-0504-biz-20160503-story.html

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vault123 said:

Ok, so let’s say you go and find the definitive, scholarly, peer reviewed article, complete with large sample sizes and bayesian analytics. Does this “prove” beyond a shadow of a doubt the illusive”white privilege” we hear about on CNN everyday?

Not necessarily. If youve never heard of “p-hacking” you might find this video interesting.

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vault123 said:

Thundermuscle75 said:

I guess Cosby was right. Don't name your kids Lakisha or Deshawn if you want them to get job interviews.

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Unless you’re applying to the DOJ:

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/5668-doj-forces-cities-to-lower-police-exam-standards-to-aid-minority-applicants

Or the Dayton police force:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread673351/pg1

Or the SAPD

https://sapoa.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/SAPOA-PR_City-Lowers-Hiring-Standards-for-Police-Applicants_12-06-18-FINAL.pdf

Or the British fire service:

https://rightedition.com/2019/01/28/white-men-need-not-apply-british-fire-service-lowers-standards-for-women-minorities/

Or Harvard:

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/7/9/hyppolite-harvard-without-affirmative-action/

Or pretty much anywhere in Silicon Valley:

https://money.cnn.com/2015/12/09/pf/college/ibm-intel-dupont-affirmative-action/index.html

Or the New York Times

https://ilovemyfreedom.org/the-ny-times-hires-new-editorial-member-who-seriously-hates-white-people-white-men-are-bullst/

Need I go on?

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