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Trump's breaks a National Shut-Down Record!
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For longest partial shutdown in US history if it lasts till Saturday. Will he do it? Or will he fail? Will a deal be made before than?

Stay tuned.....


:popcorn:

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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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A lot of Republicans in congress are getting wigged out. Especially the ones who are up for reelection in 2020. I don't see Trump or the Democrats backing down. It may very well lead to Trump going the emergency powers route. Some Republican think they or their party are going to pay a price for this, and it's safe to say that their numbers are growing every day now. Trump's base are holding firm, but they are getting isolated.

    I think every day this goes on benefits the Democrats.

In other news, a Brazilian company is getting millions of dollars of taxpayers money in farm bailouts to compensate them for Trumps tariffs.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: Brian Jones]
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So if we are paying for a wall to keep illegals  from coming and working for farmers who can’t stay in buisiness without us giving them money , aren’t we going to have to give them even more money so they can attract workers from here who don’t want to work for them ?
  This is lunacy . Whats going to happen to our national debt ? What happened to the Tea Party ? Is it too late to join?


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: Psilynut2]
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Or you can have a program to bring over Mexican labor. Relying on people to break the law and enter the us illegally to provide cheap labor is pretty irresponsible business practice, and i don't know how anyone could support it.
If Mexican (slave) labor is required for we can enjoy cheaper produce then a work program is definitely warranted and should be implemented. Relying on illegals is setting a bad precedent and just results in infighting within the American public and puts more risk for on the Mexicans willing to travel and break the law for work.

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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: MagicMush123]
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Why didn't he try when the republicans had the house???


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: MagicMush123] * 1
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MagicMush123 said:
Or you can have a program to bring over Mexican labor. Relying on people to break the law and enter the us illegally to provide cheap labor is pretty irresponsible business practice, and i don't know how anyone could support it.
If Mexican (slave) labor is required for we can enjoy cheaper produce then a work program is definitely warranted and should be implemented. Relying on illegals is setting a bad precedent and just results in infighting within the American public and puts more risk for on the Mexicans willing to travel and break the law for work.


It’s not slave labor. But it is labor that Americans refuse to do, not so much because the pay is low
But because the work is seasonal and requires moving from town to town following the harvest.

We need to bring these workers into a legal regime.


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: koods]
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Picking strawberries sucks.  I dislike picking my own blueberries for me, off my own crop.

Migrant work tends to be worse than slave labor.  You end deeper in debt working migrant work.  The boss charges for food, shelter, transport, whatever they can.  Paying less than they charge for cost of living.


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: koods]
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koods said:
MagicMush123 said:
Or you can have a program to bring over Mexican labor. Relying on people to break the law and enter the us illegally to provide cheap labor is pretty irresponsible business practice, and i don't know how anyone could support it.
If Mexican (slave) labor is required for we can enjoy cheaper produce then a work program is definitely warranted and should be implemented. Relying on illegals is setting a bad precedent and just results in infighting within the American public and puts more risk for on the Mexicans willing to travel and break the law for work.


It’s not slave labor. But it is labor that Americans refuse to do, not so much because the pay is low
But because the work is seasonal and requires moving from town to town following the harvest.

We need to bring these workers into a legal regime.


Well comparing the difficulties of the job combined with the extremely low wages, i would consider that to be slave labor. If fruit picking paid a decent wage then im sure that Americans wouldn't refuse to do the work.
So besides that and since they are "vital" why not have a work program that ships them in and ships them out? Similar to Canada's. It would be way better than having people break to law to come the America to work, and then being surprised that they don't return home...


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: MagicMush123]
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Would you do it ?


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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Sulfurshelfsean said:
Why didn't he try when the republicans had the house???


Good question. He probably thought he couldn't get a significant wall even through the Republicans. Now that it's pretty much out of the question he just seems to be grandstanding for his base. He doesn't seem to understand the implications of a long shutdown, but I definitely think congressional Republicans are going to walk away from this fiasco.


    Maybe Trump is just getting tired of the frustrations of his Presidency and he wants to go out with a bang. If he thinks he's going to win this he's even more delusional than we thought.


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
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I feel like he could have also waited til he could use it as ammo against the dems. Put the whole ahut down on them and make them the bad guys in the situation.


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Record broken!

But check this out.

Trump is Making America Great Again, with Compassion: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/17/us/politics/government-shutdown-security-net-.html

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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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The Dems will cave.

Even Cher said it raid.

Give them the money and make this end. The Dems can end this in 15 minutes, but they won't.

This is Trump trolling the Dems into an extremist position. The party that thinks it knows best about border security in a country with 22 illegal Immigrants.


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: XUL] * 1
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Trolling? Think about how fucked up that is as if all the people not working is some kind of joke. Conservatives are morally bankrupt


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (01/17/19 08:00 AM)

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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: koods]
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Trump is the president and he wants money for a barrier. The money could easily be given to him, but democrats are refusing to work to re-open the government because the wall is "immoral."

What's immoral is Chuck Schumer supporting a physical barrier before, but not now.

This is now the Dems fault.

They backtracked on their "principles" and now America can see it.


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Edited by XUL (01/17/19 12:06 PM)

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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: XUL]
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Mexico is supposed to pay for the wall

You don’t negotiate with a terrorist. Not that trump knows how to negotiate anyways. 


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (01/17/19 12:22 PM)

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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: koods] * 1
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Nah, what Trump meant was that Mexico would pay, not that they would pay money, and they are paying. It was clear what he meant.


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: christopera]
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So he meant Mexico would pay metaphorically?

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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Who knows what he meant. He just lies. There’s not any consistency in his lies either. Just the ramblings of a disordered mind


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Re: Trump's about to break a Nation Record! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
So he meant Mexico would pay metaphorically?


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm just relaying what the man said the other day.


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