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Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago
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Hey guys so I am trying to grow a B+ cubensis and this is my agar dish that I have transferred about a week ago. Just recently this morning I found that there white dots surrounding around the dish.



Does this look like some contamination to you guys?

Edited by celticcelery (01/06/19 11:05 AM)

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: celticcelery]
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Hard to say from that picture..could be bubbles, were they there before? If they weren't and have only just appeared then its contam

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: Shroomspective]
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Shroomspective said:
Hard to say from that picture..could be bubbles, were they there before? If they weren't and have only just appeared then its contam



Should I wait for it to grow and see what happens, or just dispose of it?

The white dots are on the surface and just appeared this morning and were not present before, would an agar transfer be wise?

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: celticcelery]
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Bacteria in that case..Yes you can transfer a tiny sample to a new plate..but be aware that the bacteria were likely introduced when you did the first transfer, so check your procedure..Don't put your hands over an plate, gloves, wash your hands and arms, use a SAB, flame your blades etc

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: Shroomspective]
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Shroomspective said:
Bacteria in that case..Yes you can transfer a tiny sample to a new plate..but be aware that the bacteria were likely introduced when you did the first transfer, so check your procedure..Don't put your hands over an plate, gloves, wash your hands and arms, use a SAB, flame your blades etc



Okay I just did two transfers and took a photo from the top view during the transfer





Does this look like a contamination from this angel?

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: celticcelery]
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Was the black thing a tissue sample? It doesn't look like its taken, so its probably all contam..when a tissue samples growth it reverts to mycelium and turns white..what is your agar recipe?

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: Shroomspective]
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Shroomspective said:
Was the black thing a tissue sample? It doesn't look like its taken, so its probably all contam..when a tissue samples growth it reverts to mycelium and turns white..what is your agar recipe?



I used pdya. 500ml water, 10g potato starch, 7g dextrose, 1g yeast, 10g agar agar.

The black thing is a burnt agar wedge from flame sterilizing my scalpel.

I might just toss this agar dish since it just seems like a weak growth. Somebody suggested that those white dots could just be yeast

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: celticcelery]
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That recipe is way too strong..have a look at the agar recipes in my sig..I' chuck that and start again with new plates

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: Shroomspective]
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Shroomspective said:
That recipe is way too strong..have a look at the agar recipes in my sig..I' chuck that and start again with new plates



That is the recipe from FastFreds recipe book in the shroomery.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3077006

I will take a look at your recipe tho.

I still have some viable plates, but was uncertain of the white dots tho.

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: celticcelery]
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14 year old thread..If you want growth like in my sig then I wouldn't use that, there is no way having 7g of dextrose is going to lead to good growth

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: Shroomspective]
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Shroomspective said:
14 year old thread..If you want growth like in my sig then I wouldn't use that, there is no way having 7g of dextrose is going to lead to good growth



Okay I will try your recipe. probably will save me some dextrose and agar agar in the long run. Question what does an excess of nutrients like dextrose do to growth? Does it impede it/slow it down?

I also had just one more question, I steam a lot of soybeans and plan to substitute the 500ml of potato water with 500ml of soybean water. Do you think this is an okay substitute or should I stick with potatoes?

Edited by celticcelery (01/06/19 04:07 PM)

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: celticcelery]
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Yup too many nutriments stop mycelium spreading across the plate..The reason it spreads is due to searching for nutrients..hence you need a nutrient mix low  enough to facilitate that..if its too strong it just sits there and either does nothing, or contaminates get there first

I'm not sure soyabeans will work I'd imagine they have a fair amount of protein in, whereas you want carbs..give it a try, but I wouldn't base your whole plan on it, maybe just knock a batch up once you have good growth on PDYA..also don;t use Marmite extract as it has too much salt..you want a good extract that is no added salt

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Re: Bubbles or White dots surrounding my petri that were not present one day ago [Re: Shroomspective]
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Shroomspective said:
Yup too many nutriments stop mycelium spreading across the plate..The reason it spreads is due to searching for nutrients..hence you need a nutrient mix low  enough to facilitate that..if its too strong it just sits there and either does nothing, or contaminates get there first

I'm not sure soyabeans will work I'd imagine they have a fair amount of protein in, whereas you want carbs..give it a try, but I wouldn't base your whole plan on it, maybe just knock a batch up once you have good growth on PDYA..also don;t use Marmite extract as it has too much salt..you want a good extract that is no added salt



Okay thanks alot Shroomspective. I have some cultures that I plan to transfer and will try this new agar recipe and see how it goes!

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