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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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Quote:
.deยทcocยทtion
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noun
the liquor resulting from concentrating the essence of a substance by heating or boiling, especially a medicinal preparation made from a plant.
"a decoction of a root"
the action or process of extracting the essence of something. 




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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: Caps McGee]
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Update: I took 12g dried. ground it in a coffee grinder and put about 4g into 4 tea bags.

I boiled 6.5 cups of water and then added the bags along with 2 lemon green tea bags. Low simmered the bags in the water for about 30 minutes.

Took the bags out, I had one rupture on me so I had to cheesecloth strain the mixture but no big deal. Ended up with 6 cups of liquid.

I simmered the liquid on low for about an hour. Condensed the liquid down to 1 cup. I emptied into a jar and put in the fridge to cool down. Once cool I added half a lemon worth of juice and now it is in the fridge ready for tonight. I will drink half and my partner will take the other. I shall update later tonight.


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: Ceela]
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You should do regular tea first, as the bags will soak up actives


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: Caps McGee]
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I used very wide cheese cloth as tea bags and then strained them super dry, will it still be weaker?


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: Ceela]
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Not noticeably

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: Caps McGee]
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nube424 said:
mrmazdarx9 said:
No i cant tell the difference tbh



Good to know. I felt like eating chocolates I had more of an energetic trip, thought it was due to caffeine. I guess not tho.



No your pretty much right on your feelings, good chocolate with a high percentage of cacao will definitely alter an experience due to the monoamine oxidase inhibitors in the cacao. In essence they make it harder for your brain to break down the goodies.
There isn't any caffeine in chocolate either, just theobromine but its structurally similar and also a stimulant. I think caffeine with or prior to dosing will affect your experience but it's a dose dependent variable on both sides.

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: concretelush]
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MAOI makes it harder for your body to metabolize actives, and easier for them to reach your brain


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: Caps McGee]
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So, Aleve?

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: nube424]
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Lol... headache?


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: Caps McGee]
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Isn't it an maoi? Lol. So 2 Aleve b4 a trip would make it more intense? Or last longer possibly?

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: nube424]
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No lol

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: bodhisatta]
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It's not an maoi? Or it won't affect it? Lol

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: Ceela]
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Ceela said:
Update: I took 12g dried. ground it in a coffee grinder and put about 4g into 4 tea bags.

I boiled 6.5 cups of water and then added the bags along with 2 lemon green tea bags. Low simmered the bags in the water for about 30 minutes.

Took the bags out, I had one rupture on me so I had to cheesecloth strain the mixture but no big deal. Ended up with 6 cups of liquid.

I simmered the liquid on low for about an hour. Condensed the liquid down to 1 cup. I emptied into a jar and put in the fridge to cool down. Once cool I added half a lemon worth of juice and now it is in the fridge ready for tonight. I will drink half and my partner will take the other. I shall update later tonight.




Here is my trip report. Its long but a good read. It changed who I am.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=25695966&page=0&vc=1#25695966


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: nube424]
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nube424 said:
It's not an maoi? Or it won't affect it? Lol



It affects it if youโ€™re having menstrual cramps lol

Edit: on the topic of concentrates, when i dehydrated tea all the way to black goop it lost a significant amount of potency

Edited by Appalachian Brony (12/22/18 02:09 PM)

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: Appalachian Brony] * 1
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Needs to stay suspended in solution, actives oxidize quickly when exposed to air


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: Caps McGee]
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Just a tip since all i do is concentrates and teas. Use a metal ball strainer for single/double doses,

Larger doses can just be dumped in the tea water and then filtered using a loose leaf tea infuser.

Also i have no science to back this up since i haven't tested 32 times with and without yet. But i like to grind up my mush and have it sit in lemon juice overnight before i make the tea and swirl it a few times to agitate, i just dump the lemon and mushrooms in the tea water and filter with the infuser. On trips where i have done this i have experienced very fast results with sometimes reaching full trip after just 30 minutes and no nausea whatsoever. I did 18gs like this and had an aob experience and true ego death while tripping in the dark, was great time honestly, life changing.

Edit: some more thoughts;

Also when trying to evaporate your mix less heat more time, if your in a rush your going to ruin it. I don't even use heat to evap past the point of simmering my mushes on a very low flame, the time it takes to cool down and then bring back to simmer is enough to remove a good bit of liquid, and you can repeat as much as necessary as long as you bring the temps up slowly.

For ethanol extraction i've been doing it willy mycos way for a year and it works fine, no idea if there is a better tek since if it works there's no need to fix it if i cant see a way to improve.

Edited by drudigger (12/22/18 03:05 PM)

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: concretelush]
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concretelush said:
nube424 said:
mrmazdarx9 said:
No i cant tell the difference tbh



Good to know. I felt like eating chocolates I had more of an energetic trip, thought it was due to caffeine. I guess not tho.



No your pretty much right on your feelings, good chocolate with a high percentage of cacao will definitely alter an experience due to the monoamine oxidase inhibitors in the cacao. In essence they make it harder for your brain to break down the goodies.
There isn't any caffeine in chocolate either, just theobromine but its structurally similar and also a stimulant. I think caffeine with or prior to dosing will affect your experience but it's a dose dependent variable on both sides.



Maoi's dont make it harder at all, MAOIs make oral nn dmt active which it isnt without. Not to mention your brain doesnt break down anything. Also dark chocolate is a known potentiator of shrooms.


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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since we are alll here anyway...... is this a good way of keeping shrooms in honey with a long self life ?


* chop up the mushrooms (not powder) and make a tea over low heat 20 minutes or so . Use  some crushed vitamin C.

* strain/filter the liquid

* Using a frypan reduce this liquid slowly until it thickens

* Add some honey and continue to heat, until reducing to similar consistency to plain heated honey

* Switch off the heat then add more honey to make your final volume and mix it all together

* Empty it into the vessel you'd like to store it in

Now you have an active honey with similar characteristic to normal honey. It's not quite as efficient as straight tea, but it works very well and the shelf life is long.

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: StingingRoger]
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Try it report back. Itll be a very interesting taste thats for sure, honey hallucinagens could make your own line of treats, like acid gummies.


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: mrmazdarx9] * 2
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i think it will work, will report back either way.

Perhaps the safest way of storing your goodies in clear undetectable honey.

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