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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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mrmazdarx9 said:
Maoi's dont make it harder at all, MAOIs make oral nn dmt active which it isnt without


:facepalm:
They do more than that. "MAOIs act by inhibiting the activity of monoamine oxidase, thus preventing the breakdown of monoamine neurotransmitters and thereby increasing their availability."

mrmazdarx9 said:
Not to mention your brain doesnt break down anything.


In essence was used for a reason but your right, the liver creates enzymes that do the breaking down, but how may i ask does the liver know when to create and use these enzymes? Chemical signals from the stomach? What is orchestrating these communications?

mrmazdarx9 said:
Also dark chocolate is a known potentiator of shrooms.


Because of the mao-b inhibitors and the stimulating effects of theobromine and caffeine, and yes by the looks of it i'm wrong about there not being caffeine in chocolate, its got some. :crazy:

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: concretelush]
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concretelush said:
mrmazdarx9 said:
Maoi's dont make it harder at all, MAOIs make oral nn dmt active which it isnt without


:facepalm:
They do more than that. "MAOIs act by inhibiting the activity of monoamine oxidase, thus preventing the breakdown of monoamine neurotransmitters and thereby increasing their availability."

mrmazdarx9 said:
Not to mention your brain doesnt break down anything.


In essence was used for a reason but your right, the liver creates enzymes that do the breaking down, but how may i ask does the liver know when to create and use these enzymes? Chemical signals from the stomach? What is orchestrating these communications?

mrmazdarx9 said:
Also dark chocolate is a known potentiator of shrooms.


Because of the mao-b inhibitors and the stimulating effects of theobromine and caffeine, and yes by the looks of it i'm wrong about there not being caffeine in chocolate, its got some. :crazy:


I dont get what the face palm is about? I said what you said just dumbed down seeing as you said the brain breaks down MAOI's i didnt know what your knowledge was so have some back :facepalm::facepalm3: lol. Your last post was worded in a way that said MAOI's make it harder for things like Tryptamines for the brain to uptake, if thats not what you meant please reread it and youll see. I was just correcting without having to google the actual answers.


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: mrmazdarx9] * 1
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Always Google the actual answers.


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: sui]
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I didnt get it wrong :wink:
On the subject of MAO-B inhibitors, would something like Selegiline make you fail a drugs test for amphetamines? As it is a substituted phenethylamine, and two of its metabolites are methamphetamine and amphetamine albeit the levoritory isomer. My mum was prescribed them years back when her husband died of cancer just popped into my head for some reason.


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: mrmazdarx9] * 1
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But maybe not everyone following does.  Cite and explain context. It helps a lot.

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: sui]
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If only everyone did that, it would make things easier.


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: mrmazdarx9] * 1
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I do it a lot. It does help.


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: sui] * 1
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Every one should!


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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
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mrmazdarx9 said:Your last post was worded in a way that said MAOI's make it harder for things like Tryptamines for the brain to uptake


Not really i said "In essence they make it harder for your brain to break down the goodies." Which your right, again, isn't directly the brain. But in my mind it doesn't imply that it makes it harder to uptake, it implies what it says which is "essentially" what maois do. Which to reiterate is inhibiting the activity of monoamine oxidase, thus preventing the breakdown of monoamine neurotransmitters and thereby increasing their availability.

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mrmazdarx9 said:I didnt get it wrong :wink:


Sure, you didn't get it wrong, but it wasn't completely accurate, and the way you worded your post sounded like you were trying to discredit everything I had wrote. I was only trying to make nube424 know his observations where accurate, which you seemed to want to discredit as well. You even made him think he was wrong, see.
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nube424 said:
mrmazdarx9 said:
No i cant tell the difference tbh


Good to know. I felt like eating chocolates I had more of an energetic trip, thought it was due to caffeine. I guess not tho.


So excuse me for using a facepalm, but it seems like this is an ego thing rather than you wanting to correctly educate. It really seems like the only thing your caught up in is the vernacular that i prefaced loosely with "in essence". Which was intentional primarily because i don't think most people, including David Nichols, myself, or mrmazdarx9 fully understand metabolism or pharmacokinetics.

sui said:Always Google the actual answers.


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mrmazdarx9 said:
On the subject of MAO-B inhibitors, would something like Selegiline make you fail a drugs test for amphetamines?


Yes it possibly could, you'd know that if you googled it...Is the picture in your signature a warning? Are you a mogwai or something? I'm sorry for reaming you man, your hitting a nerve.

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Re: Concentrates.. Anyone got teks? Advice? [Re: nube424]
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I heard once of a preparation where people would have a concentrated "stick" of mushrooms about the size of a tootsie roll, and shave thin (or thick) pieces off for use.  Actually found methods described at one point, but don't recall. 

When you say "sticky shards" it makes me think they could be compressed together to achieve that.  Have you ever tried that or have you or anyone else heard of or come across a method?  Thanks for any replies.

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