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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: Psilynut2]
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I’d also point out that most English speakers can’t read a blueprint either. Blueprints are not intended for laymen. They use special notations and symbols that require training to understand.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/18/18 07:16 AM)

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: Tantrika] * 1
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Diversity hire.

Sounds like from xuls description, he could have been a diversity hire. Maybe they needed a certain number of unilingual employees since most of the people working there were somewhat bilingual. I have never met an illegal who couldn’t speak English to some extent.

Honestly it sounds like that factory should have switched languages to Spanish. Then they could have had two shift working and dumped the one that wasn’t Spanish speaking .

Edited by koods (12/18/18 07:21 AM)

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
The impact of immigration reached me in Pennsylvania. Further, it also affects us all in different ways. Markets, unknown vagabonds, schools, healthcare, language barriers, drugs, etc..


It affects everything- lower wages, higher unemployment, higher health care costs, higher taxes, less social benefits and ultimately a lower standard of living for US citizens.

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL]
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christopera said:
koods said:
Production had their own standards and hiring process. They should have known that diversity can mean negative results.


You aren't talking about diversity, you are talking about a language/communication barrier.


Exactly.  My company is a Fortune 500 company that is minority white.  But everyone is required to communicate in English and the company is doing quite well.

qman said:
XUL said:
The impact of immigration reached me in Pennsylvania. Further, it also affects us all in different ways. Markets, unknown vagabonds, schools, healthcare, language barriers, drugs, etc..


It affects everything- lower wages, higher unemployment, higher health care costs, higher taxes, less social benefits and ultimately a lower standard of living for US citizens.


Statistics please.  Just saying "immigrants do drugs" isn't really an argument because non immigrants do drugs too.


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: qman]
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qman said:
XUL said:
The impact of immigration reached me in Pennsylvania. Further, it also affects us all in different ways. Markets, unknown vagabonds, schools, healthcare, language barriers, drugs, etc..


It affects everything- lower wages, higher unemployment, higher health care costs, higher taxes, less social benefits and ultimately a lower standard of living for US citizens.


I believe that statement is incorrect.
Immigration adds more tax payers to the economy.
Google it :grin:

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: Stable Genius]
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Stable Genius said:
qman said:
XUL said:
The impact of immigration reached me in Pennsylvania. Further, it also affects us all in different ways. Markets, unknown vagabonds, schools, healthcare, language barriers, drugs, etc..


It affects everything- lower wages, higher unemployment, higher health care costs, higher taxes, less social benefits and ultimately a lower standard of living for US citizens.


I believe that statement is incorrect.
Immigration adds more tax payers to the economy.
Google it :grin:


That's a wonderful insight, why don't we bring in 50 million broke third world migrants so we have "more tax payers to the economy"?  :flowstone:

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: qman] * 2
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Making the number two orders of magnitude bigger is not the same situation. That would be a crisis. We aren’t talking about that so why do you alway make that argument? It’s like saying “if you like drinking 4 liters of water a day, why don’t you drink 400”


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: koods]
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What if we brought in 50 million rich third world migrants?


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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Making the number two orders of magnitude bigger is not the same situation. That would be a crisis. We aren’t talking about that so why do you alway make that argument? It’s like saying “if you like drinking 4 liters of water a day, why don’t you drink 400”


What difference does it make, illegals and their children are a NET DRAIN on tax use in the US. Just because someone pays taxes on a pack of gum doesn't mean they create a tax surplus.

It doesn't matter if there's 400 or 24 million, all broke migrants are a net DRAIN on the government finances.

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: qman]
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qman said:
That's a wonderful insight, why don't we bring in 50 million broke third world migrants so we have "more tax payers to the economy"?  :flowstone:


Yes that would work great, in no time those 50 million wouldn't be broke.
This isn't my idea, it's called economics, look it up sometime, you may gain some insight as well.

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Stable Genius said:
qman said:
XUL said:
The impact of immigration reached me in Pennsylvania. Further, it also affects us all in different ways. Markets, unknown vagabonds, schools, healthcare, language barriers, drugs, etc..


It affects everything- lower wages, higher unemployment, higher health care costs, higher taxes, less social benefits and ultimately a lower standard of living for US citizens.


I believe that statement is incorrect.
Immigration adds more tax payers to the economy.
Google it :grin:


That's a wonderful insight, why don't we bring in 50 million broke third world migrants so we have "more tax payers to the economy"?  :flowstone:


That's an absurd argument. The entire US population of 325 million doesn't even comprise 50 million immigrants, legal and illegal combined.

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
What if we brought in 50 million rich third world migrants?


Depends if they share the same Western values. We don't want multiculturalism, too many social issues.

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
koods said:
Making the number two orders of magnitude bigger is not the same situation. That would be a crisis. We aren’t talking about that so why do you alway make that argument? It’s like saying “if you like drinking 4 liters of water a day, why don’t you drink 400”


What difference does it make, illegals and their children are a NET DRAIN on tax use in the US. Just because someone pays taxes on a pack of gum doesn't mean they create a tax surplus.

It doesn't matter if there's 400 or 24 million, all broke migrants are a net DRAIN on the government finances.


Are they stealing our jobs or are they unemployed and broke? Both cannot be true. Do you think they come over and live in public housing surviving on food stamps or something?

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: Stable Genius]
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Stable Genius said:
qman said:
That's a wonderful insight, why don't we bring in 50 million broke third world migrants so we have "more tax payers to the economy"?  :flowstone:


Yes that would work great, in no time those 50 million wouldn't be broke.
This isn't my idea, it's called economics, look it up sometime, you may gain some insight as well.


Really, bringing in millions of broke migrants into first world nations to create economic prosperity is "called economics"? :huxleyfacepalm:

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: qman] * 2
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Another way to phrase that is bringing in millions of low wage workers.

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: krypto2000]
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Stable Genius said:
qman said:
XUL said:
The impact of immigration reached me in Pennsylvania. Further, it also affects us all in different ways. Markets, unknown vagabonds, schools, healthcare, language barriers, drugs, etc..


It affects everything- lower wages, higher unemployment, higher health care costs, higher taxes, less social benefits and ultimately a lower standard of living for US citizens.


I believe that statement is incorrect.
Immigration adds more tax payers to the economy.
Google it :grin:


That's a wonderful insight, why don't we bring in 50 million broke third world migrants so we have "more tax payers to the economy"?  :flowstone:


That's an absurd argument. The entire US population of 325 million doesn't even comprise 50 million immigrants, legal and illegal combined.


He made the assertion that immigrants add more taxpayers, under that line of reasoning, wouldn't more be better?

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: qman]
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qman said:
What difference does it make, illegals and their children are a NET DRAIN on tax use in the US. Just because someone pays taxes on a pack of gum doesn't mean they create a tax surplus.

It doesn't matter if there's 400 or 24 million, all broke migrants are a net DRAIN on the government finances.


Ok, seeing as this looks like an issue that truly has you rattled here's something from Google.
Watch out though, it was written by someone from overseas :eek:

https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/bitstream/1885/41440/3/No95Withers.pdf

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
qman said:
koods said:
Making the number two orders of magnitude bigger is not the same situation. That would be a crisis. We aren’t talking about that so why do you alway make that argument? It’s like saying “if you like drinking 4 liters of water a day, why don’t you drink 400”


What difference does it make, illegals and their children are a NET DRAIN on tax use in the US. Just because someone pays taxes on a pack of gum doesn't mean they create a tax surplus.

It doesn't matter if there's 400 or 24 million, all broke migrants are a net DRAIN on the government finances.


Are they stealing our jobs or are they unemployed and broke? Both cannot be true. Do you think they come over and live in public housing surviving on food stamps or something?


What do you think happens when illegals undercut wages and then use social services paid for by the US taxpayer? 

Yes, they hurt US wages and then hurt the US citizen on taxes and social benefits. 

There's a price to pay for the elite using cheap illegal labor in the US and it lands on the steps of the average US citizen.

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Stable Genius said:
qman said:
XUL said:
The impact of immigration reached me in Pennsylvania. Further, it also affects us all in different ways. Markets, unknown vagabonds, schools, healthcare, language barriers, drugs, etc..


It affects everything- lower wages, higher unemployment, higher health care costs, higher taxes, less social benefits and ultimately a lower standard of living for US citizens.


I believe that statement is incorrect.
Immigration adds more tax payers to the economy.
Google it :grin:


That's a wonderful insight, why don't we bring in 50 million broke third world migrants so we have "more tax payers to the economy"?  :flowstone:


That's an absurd argument. The entire US population of 325 million doesn't even comprise 50 million immigrants, legal and illegal combined.


He made the assertion that immigrants add more taxpayers, under that line of reasoning, wouldn't more be better?


No, for the same reason that dumping 50 million highly educated engineers and stem majors into the economy would not be better; we're not equipped to handle such a massive influx regardless of their credentials, nationality, legality, or whatever else.

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: Stable Genius]
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Stable Genius said:
qman said:
What difference does it make, illegals and their children are a NET DRAIN on tax use in the US. Just because someone pays taxes on a pack of gum doesn't mean they create a tax surplus.

It doesn't matter if there's 400 or 24 million, all broke migrants are a net DRAIN on the government finances.


Ok, seeing as this looks like an issue that truly has you rattled here's something from Google.
Watch out though, it was written by someone from overseas :eek:

https://openresearch-repository.anu.edu.au/bitstream/1885/41440/3/No95Withers.pdf


Who promotes immigration?  The elite because it benefits them at the expense of the native population.

Why do you think my Polish ancestors were allowed to enter the US over 100 years ago?  To undercut the wages of the native population and that's exactly what they did.

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