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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: krypto2000]
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The impact of immigration reached me in Pennsylvania. Further, it also affects us all in different ways. Markets, unknown vagabonds, schools, healthcare, language barriers, drugs, etc..


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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
The impact of immigration reached me in Pennsylvania.



Laughing out aloud... oh really?
How did you deal with this impact?

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: Stable Genius]
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I had to use translators (not company), point a lot, correct failures on the line due to the inability to read English, and eventually the factory tanked and shut down two out of three of their shifts. Lots of layoffs were handed out to many people.


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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL]
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Sounds terrible, but that's what can happen with a stable genius at the wheel.
Oh, you were only kidding, I get it, nice one :thumbup:

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: Stable Genius]
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I'm not sure what you are on about.

Yes, it is terrible when people lose their jobs.


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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL] * 1
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If people 'loose their jobs' they probably deserve to.

Last time I needed labour for my business I contacted a migrant employment service, they had many willing applicants, made my perceived 'impacts' disappear.

Edited by Stable Genius (12/18/18 05:03 AM)

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
I had to use translators (not company), point a lot, correct failures on the line due to the inability to read English, and eventually the factory tanked and shut down two out of three of their shifts. Lots of layoffs were handed out to many people.



Sounds like they were desperate for labor. The immigrants didn’t work out so they shut down. That only makes sense if they had no body to fill those jobs.


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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL] * 1
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I had to use translators (not company), point a lot, correct failures on the line due to the inability to read English, and eventually the factory tanked and shut down two out of three of their shifts. Lots of layoffs were handed out to many people.




And why is management not 100% to blame for that ? They chose to hire unqualified people ? They wouldn’t even be in your state if employers didn’t sign their checks .  This seems pretty simple to me you either blame management , the people responsible for all the decision making , or your a racist .


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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
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He’s blaming immigrants for shutting down his factory, when it sounds like they had to because they couldn’t find any qualified American workers (in Pennsylvania.)

Xul? Is that true? Why did they shit down two shifts? The fact that the immigrants didn’t speak English and caused problems doesn’t explain why they just didn’t hire English speaking American workers in the first place, or after they realized the immigrants weren’t working out.

Qman says it’s a lie that Americans don’t want the jobs immigrants are taking. Why didn’t Americans fill those jobs, xul? They hired you. I bet you were even Union, so everyone got a decent wage too.

Edited by koods (12/18/18 06:02 AM)

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: koods]
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You never know they might have stolen the jobs somehow . I heard that’s how they usually get them .


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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: Psilynut2]
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I guess they took them back to Mexico


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: Psilynut2]
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Racist comes out of your mouth nearly every post. Calm down. Nobody is racist.

You are wrong. most of the Immigrants lived in PA before the factory opened in, I think, 2013. They did construction jobs mainly.

Management is responsible for the companies failure, but that doesn't change the fact that some migrants were a damper on the factory in some ways. It was a big factor.

Eventually there was even a segregation of lines. Hispanic speaking and English speaking. It would have worked, but the Hispanics couldn't read English blueprints and failed more often.

It wasn't the immigrants' fault that the company tanked. They were hard workers, but they simply didn't assimilate.

"Why did they shit down two shifts?"

To keep the factory running with English speaking people.


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Edited by XUL (12/18/18 06:15 AM)

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL]
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Answer the question. Why didn’t they have three shifts of English speakers?


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: koods]
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I don't know. I was in the quality department. I only hired people for quality, not for production.

Production had their own standards and hiring process. They should have known that diversity can mean negative results.

Everyone in the quality department could speak English. We kicked ass -- unlike production.



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Edited by XUL (12/18/18 06:39 AM)

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL] * 1
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You aren't talking about diversity, you are talking about a language/communication barrier.


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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
You aren't talking about diversity, you are talking about a language/communication barrier.




Wrong.

As you can see, diversity is often measured by using language.

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Faeron's method of measuring diversity:

In the Fearon list, cultural fractionalization is approximated by a measure of similarity between languages, varying from 1 = the population speaks two or more unrelated languages to 0 = the entire population speaks the same language.

Alesina et al's method;

This list is based on the analysis of Alesina and others,[4] they develop fractionalization scores based on ethnicity, religious and linguistic data directly from the Encyclopædia Britannica lists. This list is biased by how the Britannica chooses to list ethnic groups, but it does not make a judgement call on which identities are more salient than others.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_ranked_by_ethnic_and_cultural_diversity_level




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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL] * 1
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Except that if they had hired Mexicans who spoke/read English the problem would have been solved. The diversity would have remained the same.


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Enjoy the process of your search without succumbing to the pressure of the result.

A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

I’m sorry it had to be me.

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: christopera]
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He still won’t expalin why they couldn’t fill two out of three shifts with people who could speak English! Or one? Is he saying the diversity requirements were 2 to 1 in favor of immigrants.

Look it’s obvious the problem this plant had was they couldn’t find qualified labor. Xul cant say that because that admission pretty much blows their entire narrative about immigrant labor out of the water.

Isn’t the quality department in charge of making sure the production is of high quality?  You kicked such ass they shut down two shifts.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/18/18 07:04 AM)

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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: XUL] * 1
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Racist comes out of your mouth nearly every post. Calm down. Nobody is racist.

You are wrong. most of the Immigrants lived in PA before the factory opened in, I think, 2013. They did construction jobs mainly.

Manage



Right and they wouldn’t be there if no one ( white , most likey republicans that own construction companies )  hired them , and gave them paychecks . You can’t put all of the blame on the people who control the money and make  the decisions ,  you blame the brown guy at the bottom who has no power or control at all .  That’s why I say racism .


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Re: Migrants Demand Entry to U.S. Or $50K Each to Leave [Re: koods]
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koods said:
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Isn’t the quality department in charge of making sure the production is of high quality?  You kicked such ass they shut down two shifts.



quality control is kind of eh, depending on how far along the production line they have you work
personally got put on checking aluminum frame pieces right off the import trucks
had to check that what was sent to us was the right measurements and undamaged, pretty boring work
more experienced workers were checking the final assembled products

was the only exclusively English speaker in the department, everyone else was fluently bilingual :sad:
still not even sure what got me promoted in the first place, particularly being unable to communicate with all the exclusively French workers:lol:

had moved to Québec from Saskatchewan, does that make me the unilingual immigrant in my case? :cookiemonster:

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