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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: Guy on a buffalo]
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as well as substrate warmth and any co2 created would create a concentration gradient also aiding in air movement

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: bodhisatta]
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so the sub evaporated right with out holes at the sub lvl humity rises right and sub gives off heat right with out holes the only place it to go is out the top crack leaving the tub filled w hot humit stale air ir am i mising something


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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: bodhisatta]
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'Stale-ness' is not really an objective property. We humans consider air stale when it's damp, smelly and/or high in CO2. It's mainly the humidity why it's advised to ventilate your house properly.

As long as the mushrooms have enough oxygen and there is some evaporation to trigger pinning, the mushroom is fine.

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: tripdawg420]
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The humid air leaves the chamber something has to replace it...pretty simple

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: Guy on a buffalo]
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SadTurkey said:
'Stale-ness' is not really an objective property. We humans consider air stale when it's damp, smelly and/or high in CO2. It's mainly the humidity why it's advised to ventilate your house properly.

As long as the mushrooms have enough oxygen and there is some evaporation to trigger pinning, the mushroom is fine.



yes this is ture thats why we make holes in tubs for ventalation right :shrug:
Guy on a buffalo said:
The humid air leaves the chamber something has to replace it...pretty simple



but what its not getting it at the sub lvl
i must be stuck on stupid :laugh2:


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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: tripdawg420]
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if you took an empty unmodified tub and filled it with 100% co2 and flipped the lid. it would take a few moments for it to be filled with normal air and the co2 will have escaped

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: tripdawg420]
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Imagine having an aquarium filled with water and dropping in some water-soluble dye. At first the dye will stay one cloud, but as time passes the dye will distribute evenly over the liquid. Now this process is much quicker in gasses, mind you, but it's the same principle (diffusion).

In fact, an even better example would be someone spraying some perfume from one corner of the room. Even in a room without windows, the perfume would still spread out over the entire room and you'd smell it at the other corner within minutes.

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: SadTurkey]
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and perfume is WAY heavier than co2

The biggest molecule are musks, with the biggest molecular weight of about 350. These are humongous! Most fragrance molecules have a molecular weight of about 120 to 180.

bears would have a really hard time if sent molecules dropped to the ground because they're more than 3 times heavier than co2

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: bodhisatta]
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ok now take a one and get ready to fruit it
one its evapoating from the sub right filling the tub w high lvls of humity
myc produces heat right filling the tub w extra heat
no holes means no air movment but at the top in the crack of the lid right
so the air movment thur the crack in the lid is expelling the sub surface more than holes at the sub lvl:shrug:


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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: tripdawg420]
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There are a number of factors that create air movement/current within the tub itself including at the sub surface...not sure what you dont understand about it? Air that rises away from the sub surface due to thermal convection and air density differences caused by humidity must be replaced by other air and its a continuous process

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: Guy on a buffalo]
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right but if it has no where to go it fill right


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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25668503 -

spray some cologne or perfume in a tub and put the lid on with a really small crack. then go stand on the other side of the room. eventually you will smell the perfume. perfume is way heavier than co2.

when you blow out a candle does the super heavy smoke sink to the ground?
when you smoke and exhale do all those heavy particles hit the ground?

dust and spores are 1000x time heavier than co2 and can stay aloft for minutes in what we think is pretty damn still air.

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: tripdawg420]
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Air goes out the top and comes in the top...continuous exchange

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: Guy on a buffalo]
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i mean for fucks sake you can see the evaporation trails by the lid gaps and the fact that spores get deposited up by the handles :shrug:

and the fact that hundreds of people get canopies lol

smash a bottle of perfume on the ground so the heavy molecules are already close to the floor and guess what, you'll smell it

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: bodhisatta]
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so no one knows how it works it just works right ok :takingnotes:
you would be creating air turbalnce when u spray in the tub and when u put the lid on pushing the perfume out he box and into the open air wouldnt that be how that works
i just wana know whats the best way to fatt flushes thats all:shrug:


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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: bodhisatta]
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gasses are WAY less dense than liquids thousands of times less dense

https://chem.libretexts.org/Textbook_Maps/General_Chemistry/Map%3A_Chemistry_-_The_Central_Science_(Brown_et_al.)/11%3A_Liquids_and_Intermolecular_Forces/11.1%3A_A_Molecular_Comparison_of_Gases%2C_Liquids%2C_and_Solids

I think some people think CO2 is like the cold cup on the left. but it's like the warm cup on the right x1000 faster

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: tripdawg420]
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tripdawg420 said:
so no one knows how it works it just works right ok :takingnotes:




now its time to try it out yourself:awesomenod:

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: bodhisatta]
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ok theres my theory on this
i belive people make these tubs and cant stop opening the tubs and sreating a distubance at the surface layer pushing most of the stale air co2 what ever out when they open and close the tub 10 times a day checking it and
are getting the illusion its getting enought fae at the sub
oh i dont do shit to my tubs but what they dont say is i open it 10 times a day
i guess well never know good dissuction tho :takingnotes:


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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: tripdawg420] * 1
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:justno:

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Re: CO2 doesn't sink. CO2 myths and misconceptions. [Re: mushboy]
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mushboy said:
tripdawg420 said:
so no one knows how it works it just works right ok :takingnotes:




now its time to try it out yourself:awesomenod:



i have to now this will be my first tub i do with my new grow a true set and forget i will not open or fuck w it cracked lid and every thin :headbang3:


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