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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid]
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Yes, because I said I wouldn't waste my time means I have no evidence.

:whateveryousayfreak:

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid] * 2
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Zaid said:
Crazy_Horse said:
Don't worry, I won't.


Believe me, I know. You've made it abundantly obvious you have no case to be able to collect those bounties on.


Being abrasive to conversate with doesn't make you good at debate. See what I did there? Droppin bombs

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Crazy_Horse said:
Yes, because I said I wouldn't waste my time means I have no evidence.

:whateveryousayfreak:


If you are correct in what you say, you could make more in an evening proving me wrong than you could otherwise make at your job in several years. I would hardly call that a waste of time.


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Wild Pleurotus Ostreatus - My First Grow Log!

For those of you who :pm:'d me about Paul Stamets silence on portabellos: bodhisatta graciously presents a real answer.

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid]
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You are like the tar baby.

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Crazy_Horse]
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Bumping for obvious reasons. Have self-respect. Don't vote. Whether the buck is passed or stops falls on you.


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Wild Pleurotus Ostreatus - My First Grow Log!

For those of you who :pm:'d me about Paul Stamets silence on portabellos: bodhisatta graciously presents a real answer.

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid]
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Why not just let people do what they want to do without pushing your agenda on them?


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Why not just let people do what they want to do without pushing your agenda on them?


Someone is always pushing an agenda and the lot of you would rather discuss who your next set of masters will be without paying any mind to the power that you now possess yet are willingly handing over in greater and greater quantities.

I say these things because I want to see a future where adults take responsibility for themselves and their community. Until you are ready to do something substantial in your life, enjoy the spectacle of shopping for your next plantation.


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Wild Pleurotus Ostreatus - My First Grow Log!

For those of you who :pm:'d me about Paul Stamets silence on portabellos: bodhisatta graciously presents a real answer.

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid]
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Get a job.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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give him your job


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Only hope can give rise to the emotion we call despair. But it is nearly impossible for a man to try to live without hope, so I guess that leaves Man no choice but to walk around with despair as his companion.

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Get a job.


Parroting this statement undermines your own credibility as a free agent. Those who turn to other's institutions to provide them with their livelihoods in the long-term are often the same type of people who turn to politicians to govern them because they can not hack it themselves. It is, quite literally, selling a good portion of your life, potential and ultimately soul at a fraction of its worth for comfort and a vague sense of security.

Freelance, mother fucker. / What's up with the struggle? Get down with it or get caged by the laws of the jungle.


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Wild Pleurotus Ostreatus - My First Grow Log!

For those of you who :pm:'d me about Paul Stamets silence on portabellos: bodhisatta graciously presents a real answer.

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid] * 1
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Zaid said:
I say these things because I want to see a future where adults take responsibility for themselves and their community.


This is so stupid that only an adolescent could come up with it.

Do you REALLY think this system will change SIGNIFICANTLY without burning the whole thing down and starting again?

If you 'want to see a future where adults take responsibility for themselves and their community'n - try this - start being a responsible adult and respecting this community.

Until you do that, you've no place pushing your agenda here.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid]
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Zaid said:
Parroting this statement undermines your own credibility as a free agent. Those who turn to other's institutions to provide them with their livelihoods in the long-term are often the same type of people who turn to politicians to govern them because they can not hack it themselves. It is, quite literally, selling a good portion of your life, potential and ultimately soul at a fraction of its worth for comfort and a vague sense of security.


Unlike yourself Zaid, I took responsibility and moved out of my parents house a long time ago. I support myself wholly and fully and have a lot of spare income to boot because I've worked my ass off for the last twenty years.

I will be exiting the system, as far as is realistically possible in this world, to become a 'free agent' and go and run a farm in Australia sometime in the next year or so.

At least I've done it though. I've climbed the ranks in the corporate world, and I've seen the beast from the inside, so I can actually talk of it with some authority rather than you assumptive ramblings based on your ridiculous ideals gathered from your complete lack of real life experience.

It's gonna smack you down so hard someday.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Zaid said:
Bumping for obvious reasons. Have self-respect. Don't vote. Whether the buck is passed or stops falls on you.





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Maiden, Mother, and Crone.

You are Me and I am You.

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Do you REALLY think this system will change SIGNIFICANTLY without burning the whole thing down and starting again?


Truly enlightening. :lol: Read Siege by James Mason sometime. His points are valid even though his ultimate conclusion will be deemed unsavory by your type. I bet the house you will not even bother attempting to grasp any of it after a quick Google search of his name. Let that be a testament to your position as a free agent with an open mind.

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If you 'want to see a future where adults take responsibility for themselves and their community'n - try this - start being a responsible adult and respecting this community.


I show respect to this community by sharing my opinions. I do not, however, respect the mindset of this community as it stands right now. To do nothing and let the self-righteous hive mind here fester in itself would be to turn my back on it.

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I will be exiting the system, as far as is realistically possible in this world, to become a 'free agent' and go and run a farm in Australia sometime in the next year or so.


"I'm going to purchase land in a country which I will have to pay taxes to be able to work the land that I had already paid for by own sweat and dedication so that I may pay taxes to the system when I sell the fruits of my labor. I will also be subject to its government."

That's a very odd idea of 'free agency'.

You should also pay attention to how you have no real clue about my life or the things that I have done in it. Speak to realities that you know rather than your feelings and you may come up with a solid argument. I often find that the people who are most defensive of their life choices are the very same that truly regret them.


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Wild Pleurotus Ostreatus - My First Grow Log!

For those of you who :pm:'d me about Paul Stamets silence on portabellos: bodhisatta graciously presents a real answer.

Edited by Zaid (11/06/18 01:18 PM)

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid] * 1
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Do you need a juice box? You seem a little grumpy.

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid] * 1
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Zaid said:
"I'm going to purchase land in a country which I will have to pay taxes to be able to work the land that I had already paid for by own sweat and dedication so that I may pay taxes to the system when I sell the fruits of my labor. I will also be subject to its government."

That's a very odd idea of 'free agency'.


OK then smartypants, why don't you tell us how you're going achieve 'free agency' in this world?


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
OK then smartypants, why don't you tell us how you're going achieve 'free agency' in this world?


I never claimed to have a satisfactory answer. I am merely stating that voting and participation in the current system is contributing to the problem at hand.

Though, to shed some light for you, I think Charles Manson and James Mason have some very good insights on successfully breaking away from the current system. Reading their works (like Siege) will give you a far better understanding than I could ever explain here. Although it should be taken more from an 'Amish-like' perspective rather than focusing on racial genocides and outright hatred as those two nazis so often loved to do.


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Wild Pleurotus Ostreatus - My First Grow Log!

For those of you who :pm:'d me about Paul Stamets silence on portabellos: bodhisatta graciously presents a real answer.

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid] * 2
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were you going to give any good reasons not to vote at some point of this thread?

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: relic]
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relic said:
were you going to give any good reasons not to vote at some point of this thread?


If you have yet to find a reason within this thread then you are either...

a) ...complacent with the system at hand and do not wish any change.
b) ...feel powerless to the system already in place.
c) all of the above.

The solution to both of those lies within yourself as it lies within each of us. It will take a collective change of heart and consciousness and that can only happen by starting with yourself. The self is the base unit of the collective.


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Wild Pleurotus Ostreatus - My First Grow Log!

For those of you who :pm:'d me about Paul Stamets silence on portabellos: bodhisatta graciously presents a real answer.

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Re: Election Day 2018 [Re: Zaid]
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Zaid said:
relic said:
were you going to give any good reasons not to vote at some point of this thread?


If you have yet to find a reason within this thread then you are either...

a) ...complacent with the system at hand and do not wish any change.
b) ...feel powerless to the system already in place.
c) all of the above.
d) none of the above.

The solution to both of those lies within yourself as it lies within each of us. It will take a collective change of heart and consciousness and that can only happen by starting with yourself. The self is the base unit of the collective.


ftfy.  i'm a d man, but in a different way than you're a d man.

Edited by relic (11/06/18 02:04 PM)

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