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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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pacmanbreed said:
Fossil / carbon dating not full reliable.
In terms of DNA: Cro-Magnon + Neanderthals = 99.5%
Despite that huge similarity.
Cro-Magnon(modern human) & Neanderthals(chimps) Didnt Had a Wild sex. Despite semi naked, bein in the same geographic location.
Me love ma monkey when she pats me, so aint gonna abuse her.




What in the fuck are you even talking about? You weren't making much sense, not to mention the grammar. I'd call that a sin.


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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: TempestDnB]
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What the fuck has this thread devolved into? Who cares about religious nutcases. The science is interesting and having an opinion about the OP has to do with getting science and not with rejecting alternative and archaic explanatory hypotheses like deities

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: TempestDnB]
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TempestDnB said:
pacmanbreed said:
Fossil / carbon dating not full reliable.
In terms of DNA: Cro-Magnon + Neanderthals = 99.5%
Despite that huge similarity.
Cro-Magnon(modern human) & Neanderthals(chimps) Didnt Had a Wild sex. Despite semi naked, bein in the same geographic location.
Me love ma monkey when she pats me, so aint gonna abuse her.




What in the fuck are you even talking about? You weren't making much sense, not to mention the grammar. I'd call that a sin.



Just messin around. With that me simply sayin, dammit i wont fuck my monkey pet!!
Cro-Magnon didnt crossbred with the Neanderthals an evidence that we should consider.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 07:46 PM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
What the fuck has this thread devolved into? Who cares about religious nutcases. The science is interesting and having an opinion about the OP has to do with getting science and not with rejecting alternative and archaic explanatory hypotheses like deities



open source thread..

Is the evidence of (fine-tuning needed) cant be a considered and accepted?

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 07:41 PM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
What the fuck has this thread devolved into? Who cares about religious nutcases. The science is interesting and having an opinion about the OP has to do with getting science and not with rejecting alternative and archaic explanatory hypotheses like deities



It kind of started that way :lol:

Start a new one man

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
morrowasted said:
What the fuck has this thread devolved into? Who cares about religious nutcases. The science is interesting and having an opinion about the OP has to do with getting science and not with rejecting alternative and archaic explanatory hypotheses like deities



It kind of started that way :lol:

Start a new one man



It stared with this..:shrug:
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Obvious homework For those reading pleasures. Might be help for others.

Missing links & holes

Carbon dating limit

Cro-Magnon(early modern human) + Neanderthals(chimps) NON SEXUAL CONTENT

Huge gene pool difference.

needed consistency for some enzyme interms of decay.



Before i turned to evidence of a fine-tuning needed.
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Focus on mutation.
flowering plants genome doubled 200 million years ago

Mutation is very much possible to happen with our blood - one of the most active things on earth that have life

Consider pituatary gigantism



Consider how easy to device a news.
Quote:
Automating fake news and countering it.

exposing lies



For those who wants it in a more scientific approach of figuring it out.

To make it easy for those who Might be interested expanding beyond biology. Specially polish a theory.
That this may be a valid notion

Was just answering based on notion.
Using a book that supports fine-tunings.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/05/18 07:11 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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Op takes too many showers.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: passifloracaerulea]
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SHOWERS..
That one must rethink & might consider this.
If QUANTUM IS CREATION is valid then.

pacmanbreed said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
Selective breeding is artifical selection, which is basically evolution accelerated by humans.

But yeah, artifical selection is a metaphor for evolution basically.



I Highly appreciate it youve mentioned this.

I rather view it as:
artifical selection = metaphor for accelerated mutation.
evolution = natures way of healing / self balancing.(this aint far from the old theory)
I feel thats the MISSING link.

theory of evolution in its current state like youve mentioned, is fully suppoted by catholic which is bein pushed by their schools in the mind of childrens.

This futher broaden my doubts on future of the Big pharma & GMO's.

"Pituatary gigantism" aint a normal evolution rather a mutation which is from the unclean/bad origin based on the BIBLE. Aint saying that a person with that mutation is bad. But rathers the origins of that mutation.

I view it as mystically.
Evolution = natural process of mutation that needs natures fine-tuning. Eg.
Although not all mutation are bad specially naturally with time, for a specie to survive an incoming change, wether catasrophe or for good.. as ive mentioned in the earlier post.

Even other plant does this.
Eg present rice varieties is product of mutations over the past 45 million years.



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koods said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
Yup.

Just as with Evolution, we observe dark matter indirectly as a type of matter to fill in the missing matter in the Universe.



We can observe evolution directly. Drug resistance in microbes is an evolutionary process. Selective breeding is an evolutionary process.



Then view evolutionary process as mutation, by selectively breeding your accelerating it(migth be bad without fine-tuning)
Nature aswell at the body has its ways beyonds man's cope of balancing it self.

Pharma antibiotics? :eek:
One way of messing my guts.
It did mutate my liver.
In Excess, One way of messing with natures balance.

Ill rather focus on alternative medicines like O3 etc specially walking meditations
That our brotherhood practice.



Edited by pacmanbreed (08/05/18 07:22 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: morrowasted] * 2
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morrowasted said:
I don't think we are disagreeing. I think the piece mischaracterizes and sensationalizes what are otherwise not unreasonable scientific perspectives

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Thus, it is the very chemistry that speaks of a need for something more than just time and chance. And whether that be simply a highly specified set of initial conditions (fine-tuning) or some form of continual guidance until life ultimately emerges is still unknown.


I don't think this is crazy at all



So how did the intelligence that facilitated the emergence of life on Earth come about? It sounds like the idea is not based in reality, but based on what you want reality to be, even if you're not conscious that that's what you want. Like you need to go multiple steps backwards and not assume that life has to be created under controlled conditions. We don't know how exactly life emerges, but we know it's possible and is probably what happened, otherwise why else would it be here? A designer? Okay, how did he get here..? It's just a not great idea imo, kind of backwards and hindering progress.


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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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Logical Chaos.

I Highly appreciate youve up the creation is quantum thread.

Thanks man.it tickles ma mind. :rockon:

:threadmonitor:
For other view points.
specially gifted with logical scientific mind.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/05/18 07:44 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: TempestDnB]
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TempestDnB said:
morrowasted said:
I don't think we are disagreeing. I think the piece mischaracterizes and sensationalizes what are otherwise not unreasonable scientific perspectives

Quote:
Thus, it is the very chemistry that speaks of a need for something more than just time and chance. And whether that be simply a highly specified set of initial conditions (fine-tuning) or some form of continual guidance until life ultimately emerges is still unknown.


I don't think this is crazy at all



So how did the intelligence that facilitated the emergence of life on Earth come about? It sounds like the idea is not based in reality, but based on what you want reality to be, even if you're not conscious that that's what you want. Like you need to go multiple steps backwards and not assume that life has to be created under controlled conditions. We don't know how exactly life emerges, but we know it's possible and is probably what happened, otherwise why else would it be here? A designer? Okay, how did he get here..? It's just a not great idea imo, kind of backwards and hindering progress.




We can also consider the intillenge uses quantum mechanics, to facilitate those sets of conditions using eg. Light, for it can travel Forward - backwards (imagine bouncing it by mirrors or yet h2o) that a designer didnt needed to be present on this tangible plane to set those fine-tunings. Where space vs matter also applies.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/05/18 09:19 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: passifloracaerulea]
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passifloracaerulea said:
Op takes too many showers.



Funnily enough the OP of the thread is some other guy.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: psi]
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Lol, enough with this talk of "fine tunings". That's not how our existence works. There is nothing "fine tuned" about the conditions on earth. They are rare conditions in a massive universe where such conditions are statistically likely to occur over the course of billions of years. If you all don't see the problem with simulating a set of conditions that was developed over at least 10 billion years and god-himself-doesn't-know how big of a chunk of space in a laboratory that doesn't even have the full picture of what early earth looked like...

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: JacksonMetaller] * 1
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If our universe were not fined tuned, we wouldn’t exist to observe any universe not fine tuned. Only fine tuned universes are observable.


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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: JacksonMetaller]
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koods said:
If our universe were not fined tuned, we wouldn’t exist to observe any universe not fine tuned. Only fine tuned universes are observable.



Higly agreed :bow2: :whathesaid: :whathesaid: :bow2:
Only fine tuned universes are able to observe both opppsite sides of a coin, I think that what he meant.


JacksonMetaller said:
Lol, enough with this talk of "fine tunings". That's not how our existence works. There is nothing "fine tuned" about the conditions on earth. They are rare conditions in a massive universe where such conditions are statistically likely to occur over the course of billions of years. If you all don't see the problem with simulating a set of conditions that was developed over at least 10 billion years and god-himself-doesn't-know how big of a chunk of space in a laboratory that doesn't even have the full picture of what early earth looked like...



So your invalidating the hardworks of physicist at cern that proves that a single hair of your is made of particles and waves? Possible fine-tuned as being them waves, so they dont become tiny strands of dicks, then mutate to pussy alike skin pores as one gets older. :stoned:

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/05/18 11:48 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: psi]
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psi said:
passifloracaerulea said:
Op takes too many showers.



Funnily enough the OP of the thread is some other guy.



I know but I go for the funny if I can.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: passifloracaerulea]
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passifloracaerulea said:
Reminds me of the moral abc bullshit you see on the dr bronner's soap bottles...



:awelol:This made me laugh.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/05/18 12:05 PM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: koods]
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koods said:
If our universe were not fined tuned, we wouldn’t exist to observe any universe not fine tuned. Only fine tuned universes are observable.



Only fine tuned universes are observable, because the state of a Universe being fine tuned is a semantic designation given to the Universe from an observer of the tuning.

Edited by PatrickKn (08/05/18 12:04 PM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: PatrickKn]
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PatrickKn said:
koods said:
If our universe were not fined tuned, we wouldn’t exist to observe any universe not fine tuned. Only fine tuned universes are observable.



Only fine tuned universes are observable, because the state of a Universe being fine tuned is a semantic designation given to the Universe from an observer of the tuning.



How come we can observe the existence of dark matter that expands the univeres?
For that theory of initial singularity? W/c my guts highly agree

Hope im not a little off. But i find quantum amazing that there so much to be dug in

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/05/18 01:28 PM)

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