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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 4
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The chance that we are the only intelligent life in the universe is very small because the universe is so vast. The chance that we will cross paths with other civilizations is also very small for the same reason.

I think the panspermia theory is just as likely to explain the origin of life on earth as is it starting here


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (08/04/18 02:15 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Seriously_trippin said:
Religion is speculation by definition.


Is that your definition to religion rather than a Higher Relation? Aint a man's fault in this era of profilic CHURCHIANITY man made scheme and doctrines..
thréskeia: religion, worship.
Romans, 10:3 - For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they didn't subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

Re-ligion/Religare = rebind/relink for.
Jeremiah, 5:25 - Your iniquities have turned away these things, and your sins have withheld good from you.
Reconcile
Second Corinthians, 5:19 - namely, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, not reckoning to them their trespasses, and having committed to us the word of reconciliation.

For we are blinded
First Corinthians, 1:19 - For it is written, "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, I will bring the discernment of the discerning to nothing."{Isaiah 29:14}
Second Corinthians, 4:4 - in whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving, that the light of the Good News of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not dawn on them.

That we should stare & appreciate those beatiful stars and heavens.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 04:22 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Lophosaurus said:
It's nonsense for stupid and weak people. It's a scam to get your money.


Aint a mans fault being filled with doubts in this era of profilic lies.

GOT this from my thread for yah mA friend..
Quote:
one reason of KNOWLEDGE suppresion.
Eg. the so called pastors & teachers who are still goverend by the UNSEEN, teaching/preaching thy WORD but doesnt live by the WORD.
For the greed of money they are demanding tithes 10% of our money to sustain their earthly vices and are Preaching to accept Jesus Christ w/o knowing a clue of his totality..

That tithes should be burried to the old testaments as they are not Levi.
For Jesus christ has new law and said:
-Second Corinthians, 9:7 - Let each man give according as he has determined in his heart; not grudgingly, or under compulsion; for God loves a cheerful giver.
-hebrew 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law

whats my purpose/benefit spending my free time in this spirituality forum.. is it for the money?
When our brotherhood knows that the apostle didnt recieved/get money from the gentiles? FOR the bowl of GOD is holy and shouldnt accept unrigthous money which is from vices(eg. Lottery) from thy UNLIGTHENED fellow.
Third John, 1:7 - because for the sake of the Name they went out, taking nothing from the Gentiles.


Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 04:23 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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LogicaL Chaos said:
TempestDnB said:
There is a decent picture being painted of our hominid ancestry via the fossil record and I believe DNA now as well. I don't think we're that special, I do think as a species we have a superiority complex though.


Do u believe we are the only intelligent species in the Universe?

Cause it sounds like u think theres other intelligent life out there....


koods said:
The chance that we are the only intelligent life in the universe is very small because the universe is so vast. The chance that we will cross paths with other civilizations is also very small for the same reason.

I think the panspermia theory is just as likely to explain the origin of life on earth as is it starting here


:congrats::bow2:

and its a bliss when you came understand that they exist specially the most WISE.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 04:12 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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pacmanbreed said:
Anything Wiser than HIM who created all the beautiful stars and heaven while we stare at them?


Maybe no-one did. I don't see how that's any less magical than believing in one God who did all the work.
Besides, your arguments in support of religion seem to rely on religious texts, creating a tautology. The 'problem' with religion, or rather, faith, is that it can hardly be approached in a hard, scientific manner as it is a highly subjective and spiritual emotion. It's quite difficult to validate that externally. And arguably, there's no need. You evidently find beauty and consolation in your faith - that's enough, isn't it? But as a source of knowledge, faith is a tricky one and tends to obscure our views of how things could really work.

Celebrate your faith, but don't confuse it with validated knowledge. There's no need to do so, and neither is it guaranteed to work very well in untangling the complexity of existence.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: koraks]
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koraks said:
pacmanbreed said:
Anything Wiser than HIM who created all the beautiful stars and heaven while we stare at them?


Maybe no-one did. I don't see how that's any less magical than believing in one God who did all the work.
Besides, your arguments in support of religion seem to rely on religious texts, creating a tautology. The 'problem' with religion, or rather, faith, is that it can hardly be approached in a hard, scientific manner as it is a highly subjective and spiritual emotion. It's quite difficult to validate that externally. And arguably, there's no need. You evidently find beauty and consolation in your faith - that's enough, isn't it? But as a source of knowledge, faith is a tricky one and tends to obscure our views of how things could really work.

Celebrate your faith, but don't confuse it with validated knowledge. There's no need to do so, and neither is it guaranteed to work very well in untangling the complexity of existence.


Understanting nature as a human being aint bad.
Nature have been working in order before we are born.
And we are no greater than it.

Isnt the theory of dark matter existence magical?

Science and curiousity aint bad and it has its place.
Its only becomes bad when we treat it as our only religion/relation.
As a being we in multiple relationship. Eg in nature in to your family, fellow beings etc.

The problem of grownups pure scientific minds is it takes away guts/feeling less into account.

Science and knowledge is a Gift from the HEAVENS to prove thy existence to remove doubt as a being of curious minds..

As a man of pure scientific evidence, can one explain the existense of strong giants and its origins?
Is the product of pitiutary gigantism in our time a product of evolution or mutation? :strokebeard:

Science proves existence aswell as scriptures proves existense, and sumtime the history of its origins.

I wonder why most folks hate the BIBLE at that level of grudge?

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 05:22 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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Guts/feelings - or rather intuition, play an important role in science. But as a starting point, not as an end point.

As to giants: they don't exist. There's no credible evidence.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: koraks]
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Quote:
Isnt the theory of dark matter existence magical?


No. We know there is matter that cannot be directly observed but must be there due to its gravitational effects. There’s nothing magical about it.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: koods]
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Yup.

Just as with Evolution, we observe dark matter indirectly as a type of matter to fill in the missing matter in the Universe.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: koraks]
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Guts/feelings - or rather intuition, play an important role in science. But as a starting point, not as an end point.
:thumbup: For it is designed to have faiht hope and love.

koraks said:
As to giants: they don't exist. There's no credible evidence.




Ive crossed path to one of folks alike.
Eventually guts will question hows that possible?
did they evolve?
Then investigate/study how pituatary gland works.
Finally ask "pituary gigantism"/mutation alike its origin.

Looking for climax,
Human nature of wondering and curiousity.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/06/18 06:39 PM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
Yup.

Just as with Evolution, we observe dark matter indirectly as a type of matter to fill in the missing matter in the Universe.


We can observe evolution directly. Drug resistance in microbes is an evolutionary process. Selective breeding is an evolutionary process.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Quote:
Isnt the theory of dark matter existence magical?


No. We know there is matter that cannot be directly observed but must be there due to its gravitational effects. There’s nothing magical about it.


By observation of its existense..
Youll eventually ask its origins.

Then finds more questions.
So having faith to unseen isnt just magical but logical aswell.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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Nah, it’s not faith in the unseen. We KNOW it is there because it exerts a gravitational pull on matter that is visible. You wish your unseen god had any such observable effects.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: koods]
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koods said:
LogicaL Chaos said:
Yup.

Just as with Evolution, we observe dark matter indirectly as a type of matter to fill in the missing matter in the Universe.


We can observe evolution directly. Drug resistance in microbes is an evolutionary process. Selective breeding is an evolutionary process.


Then view evolutionary process as mutation, by selectively breeding your accelerating it(migth be bad without fine-tuning)
Nature aswell at the body has its ways beyonds man's cope of balancing it self.

Pharma antibiotics? :eek:
One way of messing my guts.
It did mutate my liver.
In Excess, One way of messing with natures balance.

Ill rather focus on alternative medicines like O3 and walking meditation That our brotherhood practices.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/05/18 09:33 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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As someone who wanted to possibly be a school or gymnasium teacher, I never believed once in Evolution.

I think it is sad it is taught as fact;nothing science knows is fact.

Just like religion teaches belief,faith, and one can then grow in that.

In same way, science teaches knowledge, which may not be fully true, and then one can grow in that.


The wise religious people are aware they could be wrong. About all they know.

The wise scientist know the could be wrong. About all they know.


Get your heads out of the cultural indignation via school systems people, you can not trust any school system to teach you the truth. The truth you have to make on your own.


Wisdom is what remains after you unlearn all you have been educated to know ~Einstein

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Nah, it’s not faith in the unseen. We KNOW it is there because it exerts a gravitational pull on matter that is visible. You wish your unseen god had any such observable effects.


So youve considered it as your climax by understanding how it works. Without questioning its origins?

Which bring us back to the conclusion that the intelligent human have understand how "pitiutary gigantism" works.
Without wondering/bein curious of its origin.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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pacmanbreed said:
koods said:
Nah, it’s not faith in the unseen. We KNOW it is there because it exerts a gravitational pull on matter that is visible. You wish your unseen god had any such observable effects.


So youve considered it as your climax by understanding how it works. Without questioning its origins?

Which bring us back to the conclusion that the intelligent human have understand how "pitiutary gigantism" works.
Without wondering/bein curious of its origin.


People are working very hard to figure figure out what it is, and where it came from. That is a very separate question than is it there. The same thing applies to evolution. Darwin described how life changes over time. He described the process. He didn’t have any idea what the mechanism was. That’s one of the things that makes his theory so amazing. He could see the effects of DNA. He knew there was some mechanism for heredity, but he didn’t know what it was. Same thing with dark matter. We know it’s there because we see its effects but we don’t know what it is.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Same thing with dark matter. We know it’s there because we see its effects but we don’t know what it is.


Then that is faith,
Stuck on Hope by simply observing.
Love will flow if one knew its origins.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 07:20 AM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: koods]
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Selective breeding is artifical selection, which is basically evolution accelerated by humans.

But yeah, artifical selection is a metaphor for evolution basically.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said:
Get your heads out of the cultural indignation via school systems people, you can not trust any school system to teach you the truth. The truth you have to make on your own.

Wisdom is what remains after you unlearn all you have been educated to know ~Einstein


A sample of truth.
Proverbs, 22:6 - Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it.
Proverbs, 2:6 - For Yahweh gives wisdom. Out of his mouth comes knowledge and understanding.

If longin to search for true guidance.
John, 7:17 - If anyone desires to do his will, he will know about the teaching, whether it is from God, or if I am speaking from myself.
John, 7:18 - He who speaks from himself seeks his own glory, but he who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.

So in search for a religion/assembly there is a one truth that stands from all the false/lies.

Where most theories of science also applies.

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