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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: lessismore]
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I suppose we can always play the victim mindset, and put our anger out on religion, if we had a tough life.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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Whoa you quoted the cult writings again, quick thinking Slave


Slave

:doge:

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said:
I suppose we can always play the victim mindset, and put our anger out on religion, if we had a tough life.



Aint a man's fault bro. Many have been misleaded by CHURCHIANITY.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said:
I suppose we can always play the victim mindset, and put our anger out on religion, if we had a tough life.



Mocking you amuses me Slave, I'm over here laughing at your stupidity, what could you say to make me angry with your infantile understanding of everything your eyes pass over?

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Whoa you quoted the cult writings again, quick thinking Slave


Slave

:doge:



Id rather be a slave of a good environtment than the one youve describe. Survival of the fittest. Been there buddy. :smile:

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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pacmanbreed said:
lessismore said:
I suppose we can always play the victim mindset, and put our anger out on religion, if we had a tough life.



Aint a man's fault bro. Many have been misleaded by CHURCHIANITY.



You teach empty words, and your bro is empty too.

The church is highly respectable, that you do not respect the church, shows who you worship.

The church is holy.


You likely think you can just sit at home and preach, yet you know not even jesus. You have chosen the way of the heathen. (John 14:6).


You preach and preach, but you preach in empty. Nothing you say is the truth. Yes I expose your lies. You are one of the false christians warned about as Hypochrites in romans 3:23, as well as Matthew 6. Your love is nonworthy, when it misleads people. You lead people in the wrong direction.


All churches that preach jesus christ are holy.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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Exactly, you've accepted mental slavery thinking you have it made, hiding from pain you don't know life's higher pleasures.

Cowardice

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Exactly, you've accepted mental slavery thinking you have it made, hiding from pain you don't know life's higher pleasures.

Cowardice



Been there bud :smile: and i didnt like it.
Romans, 6:20 - For when you were servants of sin, you were free in regard to righteousness.

After ive found a more pleasurable one.
John, 8:32 - You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."{Psalm 119:45}

AFRAID of the other side? BRAVY :wonka:

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 05:53 PM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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pacmanbreed said:
foragedfungus said:
You put a lot of bible quotes in your replies, but also say things like
pacmanbreed said:
A day time line in the bible aint 24hr earth day.






So, we are supposed to take every word of the bible as truth, and base our understanding of the world on this truth.

But for this to work we need to redefine simple things such as the length of a day?!?!?!



For WISER HE is than any tangible mind..
He enlighten a lowly man to write all HIS word.
He enlightened a man with the theory of relativity.
So man wont conceited & be arrogant of him self. And always check thy self. One weakness of a man.
And tells humanity that the unseen exist. Eg. DARK MATTER.
SPECIALLY HIM AS OUR GREATEST FATHER.

Created thing in order million years apart if we use our planet time as based. But only a day to HIM.

Plant and its ogranism/bacteria alike are the oldest. Then fish and so on. Million earth years apart.



That sounds so made up. You Christians are so confusing, one of you will say what you're saying, and another will say it's literally true and we should take all of the Bible as the word of God and literally true, All of the water in the world was in the sky and then it rained down all at once creating the Grand canyon and the oceans and that was the great flood. That was 6000 years ago. That's what my uncle told me and I was literally dumbfounded. I tried to have a discussion with him and he was insane. You have to be insane, let go of reality, to have faith like that.


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“How happy is the blameless vestal’s lot! The world forgetting, by the world forgot. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind! Each pray’r accepted, and each wish resign’d”

Edited by TempestDnB (08/04/18 07:19 PM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: TempestDnB]
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TempestDnB said:
That sounds so made up. You Christians are so confusing, one of you will say what you're saying, and another will say it's literally true and we should take all of the Bible as the word of God and literally true, All of the water in the world was in the sky and then it rained down all at once creating the Grand canyon and the oceans. That's what my uncle told me and I was literally dumbfounded. I tried to have a discussion with him and he was insane. You have to be insane, let go of reality, to have faith like that.



:hahawot:
Im still in reality check for im a happy father of two. And it has only been 2 yrs since i was baptized. And i admit that there are so much to be dug.

Science aswell as scriptures are dangerous at the wrong hands.
As ive mention even christianity is so much mislead in this time of profilic CHURCHIANITY. Many false will rise specially for the love of money. I was once from those who where misleaded spent my 20yrs of nonsense..
We call our teachers not teachers but brothers as they are among us.
Most so called teachers/pastors dont teach this that everyone must practice it whole heartedly.
-Romans, 12:3 - For I say, through the grace that was given me, to every man who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think reasonably, as God has apportioned to each person a measure of faith.
-For a man is gifted a gift of prophecy but its the most hardest to attain. As ive said (knowledge can be dangerous) that we should think reasonably

I wonder where are your doubts in that order of creation?
I also love a storytelling from a loving uncle.
Im proud to be one.
Proverbs, 22:6 - Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 07:10 PM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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Quote:
Thats a whole load of crap right there

People don't get into science for fame :lol:  and scientific knowledge is peer reviewed, its flexible and expendable as new insights are made. Unlike religious brainwashing material



Unfortunately the situation is more complicated than that presently. The publish or perish environment- even worse in asia than it is the West (where it's already bad) can result in some unethical practices. Not all journals are peer reviewed and there are plenty of pay to publish journals that you can use to give an air of legitimacy to any bullshit you want. there is actually a battle right now between people who make software to auto-generate 'scientific papers' and people who make software to detect auto-generated papers.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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What makes you more right than any of the other Christians? Why is your interpretation superior? I'm sure the other Christians would disagree and say their interpretation is the right one, or just not think about it or dig deeper, just letting go of any critical thinking. Giving it up to God, putting those thoughts in his hands.


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“How happy is the blameless vestal’s lot! The world forgetting, by the world forgot. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind! Each pray’r accepted, and each wish resign’d”

Edited by TempestDnB (08/04/18 08:05 PM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: TempestDnB]
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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: lessismore]
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lessismore said:
waves said:
Xerbia said:
https://www.collective-evolution.com/2018/08/02/500-renowned-scientists-jointly-share-why-they-reject-darwins-theory-of-evolution/

Interesting to see so many scientists changing their mind on the theory of evolution. Really gets your mind thinking about other ideas. Great topic to think about on some shroomies :wink:



Anybody who believes anything they read on that website is an idiot. Sorry, but there is no nicer way of saying it.



Do not judge, so you will not be judged.



Quote:
Here’s another great quote from one of the scientists, Chris Williams, A Ph.D., Biochemistry Ohio State University:



Is this one of the supposedly "renowned scientists"? Some totally unknown guy who happens to have a Ph.D from Ohio State?

Having a Ph.D DOES NOT make you a "renowned scientist".

That quote from 'Chris Williams' (if that is even a real person) is over 10 years old. So are all the other quotes on the website referenced (https://dissentfromdarwin.org/scientists/)

Sorry, not trying to be a dick. It's just pretty obvious that the original article and the website it is referencing are a complete load of bullshit.

And it's not even fresh bullshit. This garbage has been sitting on the internet for 10 years now.



I would make the claim that even renowned scientists you can not trust.
They often in for the money, the fame.

In fact many professional scientists are reputation building grabtailing weasels (copyright Mckenna).


That's how they get big in this world.


You can not trust any man, fully, but yourself. Not scientists eithr.

No matter how many clap him on the back, and fancy journals.


My friend, journals are faked all the time, even bought.

And if it is popular, I would not trust it either.... nature.com? Oh comeon.


Trust not popular things. The more popular, the more deceitful often. Popular is often a moneygame.

In fact I trust often less popular journals than popular ones.


Arxiv.org is wonderful, and many humble phds use it. They are not the weasels spoken of here, but truth is many scientists are weasels.


You can be an egoist, as a builder, as a scientist, or as a religious person.

Trust never any person fully, or any theory fully, or any science journal fully.


Unless said agrees with your own reasoning, even there be careful, for you could be wrong.


Man is often so far from God, he can not see very much at all.
Religious blindness.
Spiritual blindness.
Scientific blindness.
Political blindness.
Society blindness.


I would truthfully not trust any science field fully, neither our public school systems, nor educations/universities.

Nothing can be trusted fully.


Be careful with swearwords like bullshit, by using them you cause a distance to the one you are talking to, and thus no longer fully objective.


Nothing is bullshit unless it can be proven.
Your argument seems to have failed to me. The guy has a phd, and unless you have called the university, you have failed your argument here. Because you can not verify it online likely, if his phd is for real, or if his university is credited.

Hey fake universities are hard to spot.


Argumenting a phd is fake online, is a very hard thing to do, most uni people know.

And what university is credible? - someclaim they better for being from Harvard

Oh come on


Harvard, that is some pumped up egocentrical bullshit often I would say, many go there only for the prestige


A phd is a phd, if it is a real phd, usually


Prestige is for sure no guarantee.


You can not measure on a status title, if the professors are good teachers. The harvard ones may be the good/bad ones.


You can learn much or nothing with a phd.


But because it is a foreign (to you) university, does not mean it is bullshit.


If you do intl research, then a phd is a phd. You be accepted on the team. If your phd is a real one, from accredited university.


But then I again don't think you can know, unless calling in, and doing extensive research, the 2-5mins you used, I would not count as credible, to know if the phd/university is fake/accredited at all.

As said, it can be very hard to know,fake unis pop up all over the place.


I would give the guy the benefit of the doubt, unless I had real hard physical evidence.
After all he says truth: evolution is not steadyfast.

It just a theory, like any other theory.



You clearly don't understand scientific theory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: TempestDnB]
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TempestDnB said:
What makes you more right than any of the other Christians? Why is your interpretation superior? I'm sure the other Christians would disagree and say their interpretation is the right one, or just not think about it or dig deeper, just letting go of any critical thinking.



Many have disagreed and mocked us.
Some of our brothers now are once from them (matrix)
This is warned.
Matthew, 24:5 - For many will come in my name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will lead many astray.

many are critically thinking it, for their vices.

Teachers & pastors in presentable clothing preaching thy word without leaving by them.
Matthew, 23:8 - But don't you be called 'Rabbi,' for one is your teacher, the Christ, and all of you are brothers.

Devicing man made schemes

Interpreting speaking in tongues not logically and not by heart.

Theres so much more i havent mentioned.

& i can attest in two years time my life has changed for the good. As for my family aswell. It only takes 6hrs a week.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 08:25 PM)

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Yeah, this is not the first time I've heard this kind of thing. I'm glad you found solace in the Lord.


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“How happy is the blameless vestal’s lot! The world forgetting, by the world forgot. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind! Each pray’r accepted, and each wish resign’d”

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: pacmanbreed]
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pacmanbreed said:
Repertoire89 said:





Wow that picture is so hot, I've already beat my meat to that twice! :drooling:



:wutermelon:

Too much information dude

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: TempestDnB]
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TempestDnB said:
Yeah, this is not the first time I've heard this kind of thing. I'm glad you found solace in the Lord.



Appreciate it man.:bow2: and thanks to HIS grace.
We also have awakened smart brothers from your side that did knowledge/science contributions.

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
pacmanbreed said:
Repertoire89 said:





Wow that picture is so hot, I've already beat my meat to that twice! :drooling:



:wutermelon:

Too much information dude



Ill print that for my room.
But will never gonna bow on that man made image..
Fuckit never again.
:adventuretime:

Just for a memorabilia of my past
Will remind me for the real him didnt have a long hair.

INFO IS FREE.

Edited by pacmanbreed (08/04/18 08:45 PM)

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Re: Evolution is still all speculation [Re: morrowasted]
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morrowasted said:
Quote:
Thats a whole load of crap right there

People don't get into science for fame :lol:  and scientific knowledge is peer reviewed, its flexible and expendable as new insights are made. Unlike religious brainwashing material



Unfortunately the situation is more complicated than that presently. The publish or perish environment- even worse in asia than it is the West (where it's already bad) can result in some unethical practices. Not all journals are peer reviewed and there are plenty of pay to publish journals that you can use to give an air of legitimacy to any bullshit you want. there is actually a battle right now between people who make software to auto-generate 'scientific papers' and people who make software to detect auto-generated papers.



Very informative. Thanks for sharin it man.
Thats a very logical one, me as a ex-progamer.

morrowasted said:
I don't think we are disagreeing. I think the piece mischaracterizes and sensationalizes what are otherwise not unreasonable scientific perspectives

Quote:
Thus, it is the very chemistry that speaks of a need for something more than just time and chance. And whether that be simply a highly specified set of initial conditions (fine-tuning) or some form of continual guidance until life ultimately emerges is still unknown.


I don't think this is crazy at all



Aswell as this an evidence of a GREAT fine-tuner.
Which ive experience in my own life.
HE Tunes every life form.

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