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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: Shroomism] * 1
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Shroomism said:
mndfreeze said:
I grew up on the central coast of california, near monterey bay.  Had a nice childhood, its a beautiful state.  Fuck southern california, that place is shit. :laugh:    However at 18 I moved to arizona because there was no way I was ever ever ever going to be able to afford to start a career in I.T. in the silicon valley, even only living an hour away from it.  California is a shit show with their state management, taxes, infrastructure and a fuck ton of other shit. 


hahaha typically central cal/Nocal cliche attitude "ohh fuck So Cal it sucks so hard".
I really don't get the elitism people in the north have against southern California. It's not like that the other way around. NoCal people just LOVE to shit on SoCal for some reason.
That attitude is especially prevalent in the Bay area. I never really heard a single bad thing about the bay area the whole time I lived in LA (~4 years)..
I spent a couple days in San Fran and heard MAD shit talked on SoCal.. even just in passing or people on the street.
Probably because they are jealous :tongue: Our streets don't smell like piss (unless you in skid row..) and it doesn't cost $8,000/month to rent a studio.

Anyway, our city is better than yours :tongue2: :grin:



Obviously I'm generalizing.  A lot of SoCal, especially around LA, is a shit hole.  Its been spreading farther and farther up north too.  The peoples attitude in general down there is different.  Like how New York is different.  Part of why the area I grew up in is now trash is because its become a lot like L.A.  A lot of northern California used to be laid back and friendly.  Of course this doesn't apply everywhere.  Oakland has been a gang ridden shit hole for a long long time.  Also the silicon valley and bay area doesn't have room to really talk.  They are a shithole in a different sort of way.  So very true they are elitist as fuck there.   

It used to be california was a laid back kind of state and people were a lot friendlier.  Seems the more and more people move to an area, the less friendly they become and it turns into some sort of standard to be an asshole.  There are definitely some cultural issues going on in california as well, add that to the insane cost of living and mismanagement of the state and it creates a ton of socio-economic situations that fucks things up even more.


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quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: Shroomism] * 1
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Shroomism said:
He's in Arizona.. the land of melting dashboards and shoes, and people that drive 25MPH across all 5 lanes of highway when the speed limit is 55.
And bikers who ride in the middle of the street when they have an entire dedicated bike lane that a truck could drive through.



I think you have the speed limit thing backwards, unless you are talking about Sun City, the land of retireeeeeees and scooters.

Our insurance rates are the second highest in the nation because people here drive too fast (and also because of all the stolen cars getting chop shopped) and get into deadly accidents.

Our shoes and dashboards do melt.  Like memes and steel beams.


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quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: mndfreeze]
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I think California used to be friendly because of the older generation. The younger generations are being more rude in general. The amount of disrespect I've been shown at work places by them is unimaginable. I rented a room next to a garage in a neighborhood where the homes are $700,000+. It's middle class but some days I feel it might as well be a trailer park. Most of the homes were built around the 1950s too.

My neighbors have been complete assholes. I was working from 4PM to 12AM and couldn't go to sleep until 3AM. So I asked my landlord to be do their laundry in the afternoon because the washer made a loud screaming noise and it's right next to the wall near my bed. Their garage door opener was an old system and it was loud. So I would be awaken by it. They kept driving their car in and out the garage while I tried to sleep. Then they would use the garage door instead of their side gate to go in and out the house.

Her husband is a divorce lawyer. He's a BMW car owner. His BMW was quiet, thankfully. After a few years they upgraded the garage door opener and the new one was quiet enough to where it wouldn't disturb me as much. Then right after they replaced the garage door opener her husband buys a brand new BMW M5 which has the muffler wired to the stereo system to make it sound like a V8 engine. I complained to the landlord and she said I can move out if I don't like.

Then right next to my room next door a high school teacher lives there. She allowed a friend to move in and her friend brought a dog with her. This is one of the most annoying dogs I've ever seen in my life. It will bark at air planes and any little thing. I complained to her and she didn't do anything about it. I had the county send her a letter telling her she's violating the barking dog noise ordinance. She still refuses to do anything and if I want to make it stop I have to take her to court.

It's ridiculous the way these so called "upper middle class" people behave. If anything what happened is most of them weren't upper class at all. They bought houses cheap back before the 1980s and the prices kept going up. Now they're all living in expensive and acting all snobby. The level of narcissism around where I live in California is through the roof.

Here's the neighbors dog that's 15ft away from my room barking for 8 hrs straight some days while the owner is at school teaching classes.


Edited by kent101 (03/03/18 11:23 PM)

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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: mndfreeze]
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mndfreeze said:
Shroomism said:
He's in Arizona.. the land of melting dashboards and shoes, and people that drive 25MPH across all 5 lanes of highway when the speed limit is 55.
And bikers who ride in the middle of the street when they have an entire dedicated bike lane that a truck could drive through.



I think you have the speed limit thing backwards, unless you are talking about Sun City, the land of retireeeeeees and scooters.

Our insurance rates are the second highest in the nation because people here drive too fast (and also because of all the stolen cars getting chop shopped) and get into deadly accidents.

Our shoes and dashboards do melt.  Like memes and steel beams.


Can you explain to me jackets in Arizona?

Few decades ago, was in Phoenix and Mesa area for the winter
people were wearing hats, mitts, and winter hockey jackets
was personally wearing t-shirts and shorts because of the heat
the hockey jackets locals were wearing were the same sort we wore in Canada to keep warm in the winter

the actual temperature was that of a warm spring day (in the 20s -- 72ish in American measure)



is it something to do with body temperature getting used to a particular climate
or are hockey fans in Arizona just completely crazy and bake themselves all winter?

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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: Tantrika] * 1
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I didn't read this thread, but I always get a chuckle from the California haters.  Maybe one of these days they'll hate us enough to kick us out into the briar patch.

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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: Tantrika] * 1
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Tantrika said:
mndfreeze said:
Shroomism said:
He's in Arizona.. the land of melting dashboards and shoes, and people that drive 25MPH across all 5 lanes of highway when the speed limit is 55.
And bikers who ride in the middle of the street when they have an entire dedicated bike lane that a truck could drive through.



I think you have the speed limit thing backwards, unless you are talking about Sun City, the land of retireeeeeees and scooters.

Our insurance rates are the second highest in the nation because people here drive too fast (and also because of all the stolen cars getting chop shopped) and get into deadly accidents.

Our shoes and dashboards do melt.  Like memes and steel beams.


Can you explain to me jackets in Arizona?

Few decades ago, was in Phoenix and Mesa area for the winter
people were wearing hats, mitts, and winter hockey jackets
was personally wearing t-shirts and shorts because of the heat
the hockey jackets locals were wearing were the same sort we wore in Canada to keep warm in the winter

the actual temperature was that of a warm spring day (in the 20s -- 72ish in American measure)



is it something to do with body temperature getting used to a particular climate
or are hockey fans in Arizona just completely crazy and bake themselves all winter?



Hahah the desert gets colder then people seem to think elsewhere.  Deserts tend to be extreme both directions on the temp scale.  Our summers are usually 115F and winters can drop below freezing at night, we just don't have any moisture in the air to make snow, though it HAS snowed in phoenix before.

Definitely people adjust to it.  Not everyone, as I surely haven't.  A lot of people keep their places air conditioned @ 80 to 85 in the summer to save on electric costs. That to me is miserable.  I'll gladly pay extra to have my place at 70 or below.  68 if I'm sleeping.  Every girlfriend I've ever had since moving here and most every woman I've ever met complains if its under 75 or 80 it seems about being cold.  So you're probably seeing that.

Wearing that stuff you mentioned at 70 definitely seems extreme to me and I don't commonly see people doing that.  Usually if its 70+ people are wearing shirts and jeans or at most a sweater or something.


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quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: mndfreeze]
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mndfreeze said:
Tantrika said:
mndfreeze said:
Shroomism said:
He's in Arizona.. the land of melting dashboards and shoes, and people that drive 25MPH across all 5 lanes of highway when the speed limit is 55.
And bikers who ride in the middle of the street when they have an entire dedicated bike lane that a truck could drive through.



I think you have the speed limit thing backwards, unless you are talking about Sun City, the land of retireeeeeees and scooters.

Our insurance rates are the second highest in the nation because people here drive too fast (and also because of all the stolen cars getting chop shopped) and get into deadly accidents.

Our shoes and dashboards do melt.  Like memes and steel beams.


Can you explain to me jackets in Arizona?

Few decades ago, was in Phoenix and Mesa area for the winter
people were wearing hats, mitts, and winter hockey jackets
was personally wearing t-shirts and shorts because of the heat
the hockey jackets locals were wearing were the same sort we wore in Canada to keep warm in the winter

the actual temperature was that of a warm spring day (in the 20s -- 72ish in American measure)



is it something to do with body temperature getting used to a particular climate
or are hockey fans in Arizona just completely crazy and bake themselves all winter?



Hahah the desert gets colder then people seem to think elsewhere.  Deserts tend to be extreme both directions on the temp scale.  Our summers are usually 115F and winters can drop below freezing at night, we just don't have any moisture in the air to make snow, though it HAS snowed in phoenix before.

Definitely people adjust to it.  Not everyone, as I surely haven't.  A lot of people keep their places air conditioned @ 80 to 85 in the summer to save on electric costs. That to me is miserable.  I'll gladly pay extra to have my place at 70 or below.  68 if I'm sleeping.  Every girlfriend I've ever had since moving here and most every woman I've ever met complains if its under 75 or 80 it seems about being cold.  So you're probably seeing that.

Wearing that stuff you mentioned at 70 definitely seems extreme to me and I don't commonly see people doing that.  Usually if its 70+ people are wearing shirts and jeans or at most a sweater or something.


The Grand Canyon had snow in parts of it on my visit, :cookiemonster:
so was aware that it could get cold
it was just peculiar to be walking down the street dressed one way
and see people dressed in what was bundling up back home


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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: Tantrika]
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Well, we definitely have our fair share of crazy people here as well. :laugh:  I have met a few who I swear would wear a deep winter coat in the middle of summer if they thought they could get away with it without the rest of us calling them nutbags. haha


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quote]Urb said:
I know... Its fucked up... Ill fix it minyana..[/quote]

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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: mndfreeze]
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haha.. I was mostly joking :tongue2:
But last 3 times I was in PHX... everyone was driving slow as fuckballs. Shit, as soon as you hit Arizona.
The 2 lane road in.. you can cruise at like 90. All passing cars on the left, slow cars on the right. Street signs say that all throughout California. SLOW MOTHERFUCKERS TO THE RIGHT LANE
And it works. Fast cars go on the left, slow MFers move to the right side. Traffic flows freely
Second you hit Arizona, those signs disappear. Then the retard fucks with AZ plates camp the left lane doing 45 MPH while pacing the car next to them for 50 miles so no one can get by.

I swear it's happened every single time I drive there. I'm free cruising and as soon as I hit AZ, there's always some retard who thinks it's funny to go 25MPH under the speed limit in the left lane and pace the car next to them and refuse to move over. Doesn't matter what time of day, it was 2AM-3AM. They can not have a single car in front of them for 5 miles, but they will still do that. I've been stuck behind someone like that for over 50 miles.

Then when you actually get in AZ, everyone was doing the same thing. Driving the main highway and I'm used to doing 80-90 on the highway to "cruise".. these guys idea of cruising is doing 45MPH and forming a chain of cars evenly going the same speed across all 6 lanes of traffic so no one can get by. I should have saved my dashcam footage of it. Coming in there was a line of 6 cars all PERFECTLY across all 6 lanes of traffic, going the exact same speed.. like that for miles and miles... they were all going slow as fuck and had no one in front of them for miles.
That's an Arizona thing from my experience. Assholes who want to drive super slow and camp  the left lanes for no fucking reason and refuse to move over.  And people that like to block all lanes of a road when there is no one in front of them. I mean it happens here too sometimes, but down there it's like clockwork. Most people here know when you are camping the left lane and a car comes flying up behind you and you have room to move, you move the fuck over. Not in AZ. They get some kind of sick satisfaction out it.

Perhaps we are driving different roads. But almost all my driving experiences in PHX area and coming to it are infuriating as hell because of all these slow ass fucks that block the free flow of traffic, even when there is zero traffic.


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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: Shroomism]
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California also has some of the most draconian enforcement BS on this side of the Mississippi. Illegal DUI checkpoints, EPA goons harassing land owners, State park rangers shaking visitors down, the list is endless.


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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: Great Scott]
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That seems to be a west coast thing


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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: koods]
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NYC has it's share of overzealous enforcement as well. Same shit different way.

Smoke indoors? Get fined for smoking indoors.
Smoke outside? Get fined for loitering.
While the fat cats collect big time tax revenue on the cigarettes you're not supposed to smoke. They get you coming and going. Cha-ching.

On a related note:


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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: Great Scott]
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This thread reminds me of that South Park episode, where cartmen is driving in a car and singing a song on a loud speaker singing, “California, is real nice to the homeless, oh Cali—eeeee—-fornia a a a , real nice to the homeless” and homeless people were following him as he was leading them to California. He was doing it because he wanted homeless people out of his state, which is Colorado is where South Park is in.

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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: ShiVersblood]
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Eric also built a hippy dozer drill



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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: Great Scott]
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I've never been to california but I always thought that California would top the list for quality of life so this is surprising.

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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: Great Scott]
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Great Scott said:
California also has some of the most draconian enforcement BS on this side of the Mississippi. Illegal DUI checkpoints, EPA goons harassing land owners, State park rangers shaking visitors down, the list is endless.



Relative to population..? Parts of MO, OK, KS, and most of the Plains as a whole seem way more likely to run into  Draconian / illegal "enforcement" particularly for out of state drivers. Down to cops cruising >90mph on the 75mph interstates in the fast lane on slow days, especially turnpikes , speeding up to park and  pull over people in the right lane cruising at 90. A quick $375/>15mph over speeding ticket. Unwarranted sobriety tests on nervous drivers, leading to a blood test. No front license plates when driving through a state  which requires them (and from/to a state that doesn't).


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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: DustBunny]
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Hey man, don't interrupt me while I'm trying to pile onto California. :smirk:


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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: DustBunny]
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I've never been stopped/frisked in CA or OR - in nearly a decade. Idaho, on the other hand, it's happened like 15+ times.... just driving around past midnight or 3mph above speed limit is probable cause there... and they'll attempt to intimidate you with lies about 'calling the dogs' until you let them search your car, some stops will last over an hour as they relentlessly try to get you to give up your rights.


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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: twighead]
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I've never consented to a search.  My car has been searched many times.  I've been dragged out of the house at the address listed on my driver's license at gunpoint, handcuffed and threatened with arrest.  When I was a teenager, it was a foregone conclusion that if a cop got in behind a car full of kids on Fri night, we would be getting pulled over.  I've never had the cops put me in handcuffs without hurting me in some way, at least a little, to show me that they can.
Bear in mind, that I'm very friendly with police.  When I got my DUI years ago, I asked the arresting officer out for dinner.(she politely declined)  I never argue or talk shit.  I would hate to see what would happen if I did. 

tl;dr
I haven't dealt with a lot of out of state cops, but the local sheriff and PD are dicks around this part of Ca.  I can't imagine that Idaho cops could be that much worse.  Our PD had to operate for a decade under a federal consent decree.


All the same, I would never move to some parking lot state as long as I can live in California.  That would be absurd.

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Re: California is dead last in quality of life in the US. [Re: ballsalsa]
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I think it's safe to say that horrible people work at most if not all departments. Bigger cities in my experience means seemingly more are better/worried about bigger/real problems. I think it's also safe to say that the relative amount of members here who've suffered unjust law enforcement, is exponentially higher than the norm. I've been slammed against a wall by a jail guard over twice my weight for saying "What?" in my own town. The jail is considered far more humane than most in the area. I  genuinely couldn't hear well enough or understand anything, as my ears were ringing so loud and brain "zapping" profusely from delirium tremens setting in. I had at least one seizure within 24hrs of it. I couldn't find or afford a lawyer to do anything afterwards.


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