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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: XUL]
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I dunno, but here's an interesting study on bias and how self-identification as part of one group or another can affect it.  I know it says "mixed race" but it's talking about groups composed of multiple "races" not individuals.
http://sci-hub.tw/http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0146167208327743

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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: XUL] * 3
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XUL said:
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Are you looking for proof that every single white person is more privileged than every single black person?

Your not going to find it.


I tend to agree.

So, when exactly does a white person, or person with mixed parents, become recipients of white privilege? What is the threshold? What is the definition?



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You're being intentionally obtuse


No, I am asking honest questions. How much white does it take?


You seemed to think a global warming analogy was appropriate.
I think that's like asking how much global warming does it take for it to get hot in Sydney today.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: Thundermuscle75]
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How much carbon dioxide warms the planet to a dangerous level?

How much white DNA gives you a privilege?

Something like that.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: XUL] * 2
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How much white DNA gives you a privilege?


This isn't a deliberately asinine question? Because it is an asinine question.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: XUL] * 2
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XUL said:
How much carbon dioxide warms the planet to a dangerous level?

How much white DNA gives you a privilege?

Something like that.


Seriously?
You want to quantify an individual persons privilege based on a quantity of DNA?
How about Five DNA's give you nine privilege?

If you really need an answer like that. I suggest you stop looking, if you are really looking. You're not going to find it.

If you are curious and open to the prospect that in much of the world whites have have gross advantages in wealth, employment opportunities, living standards and other categories. The evidence isn't hard to find. In fact the more you dig, the more you find. There's layers upon layers of it.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: Thundermuscle75]
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Based on their genes, yes.

I didn't create the term white privilege. I am just asking how much white in a family gives privilege.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
How much white DNA gives you a privilege?


If you get ANY benefit from the color of your skin, be it in employment decisions, interactions with law enforcement, etc, you have white privilege.

Are you trying to argue that a little extra help doesn't count?  :shrug:


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: XUL] * 1
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That's not even relevant.

The whole point of the white privilege thing is to get white people to hate themselves. That's why no-one can answer a straight question about whether Jewish privilege exists.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: viktor] * 2
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Multiple people have. "Jew" privilege doesn't exist, but if they're white, they have white privilege. Wealth doesn't come into play here, that's class privilege. Even a white person in poverty has white privilege. He is a less privileged white person, but still white.

As far as the "point of white priviledge is to get white people to hate themselves", white privilege is a tool that some people like to use to get white people to feel shame. That doesnt mean theyre right, and it doesnt mean white priviledge doesnt exist.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
XUL said:
How much white DNA gives you a privilege?


If you get ANY benefit from the color of your skin, be it in employment decisions, interactions with law enforcement, etc, you have white privilege.

Are you trying to argue that a little extra help doesn't count?  :shrug:


Ok.

So if any person with white in their family tree get special treatment, they have white privilege.

I just wanted to make sure mixed families had white privilege too.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: XUL] * 2
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XUL said:
So if any person with white in their family tree get special treatment, they have white privilege.

I just wanted to make sure mixed families had white privilege too.


It has a lot more to do with how white they look and how people treat them as result, than what is in their family tree.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
XUL said:
So if any person with white in their family tree get special treatment, they have white privilege.

I just wanted to make sure mixed families had white privilege too.


It has a lot more to do with how white they look and how people treat them as result, than what is in their family tree.


So this is about looks and not a systemic white privilege?


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: XUL] * 2
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It's about what race you perceived to be in and whether you are treated differently as a result.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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XUL can't possibly be as mentally deficient as he has been representing himself to be ITT.

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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: ballsalsa]
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I'm scratching my head as well.

Perhaps he's hoping I mistakenly say "yes, it's about looks", and he says "but you can't determine looks from a person's first name on a resume"!


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I'm scratching my head as well.

Perhaps he's hoping I mistakenly say "yes, it's about looks", and he says "but you can't determine looks from a person's first name on a resume"!


It's not about winning.

It's about hashing out details.

Identifying the threshold ow what it means have white privilege.

There are so many different definitions of it. In fact, the definition you provided me in the other thread differs from other definitions I have heard.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: XUL]
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I guess it's clear viktor has a different opinion: "The whole point of the white privilege thing is to get white people to hate themselves."


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I experienced institutional racism once when I got pulled over and I was the only white guy in the car. Cop was all, "Are you in a gang? Are you a tagger?" I was like, woh woh buddy I'm white in case you couldn't tell!


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: SoloTrip]
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Maybe white people are treated better because everyone knows that white people are less likely to steal, rape, rob, lie etc.


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Re: Does white privilege exist? Prove it. [Re: viktor] * 2
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Some are.  Some are more likely.  Skin color isn't the determining factor.

Have you ever considered the possibility that some black people become anti-social because society is so anti-black?


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