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If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is....
    #2935911 - 07/28/04 12:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Just how left/liberal the media really is.

You see all these phony polls in the lefty newspapers and on television saying kerry is leading Bush, 75% of America against war, 60% of ALL Americans want a new president in the Whitehouse etc. etc. blah blah blah.

I guess old tricks are the best tricks, especially when trying to sway the vote. Those who don't know how to form their own opinion will vote based on what they take for truth in the newspaper. Those same people are the ones that say "Well if TV said that, it must be true."

When Bush is reelected Im pretty sure you'll see that people aren't falling for such tricks and are becoming aware of just how biased the news really is.





I was just thinking
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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.... [Re: Stein]
    #2935918 - 07/28/04 12:43 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Well, you could probably do some research and find out where they get those statistics from.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.... [Re: silversoul7]
    #2935941 - 07/28/04 12:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Sure I could, but I don't need to. I know those polls are just exit polls, exit polls placed where they know they will get a liberal majority. But people who can't form their own opinion see that headline and think to themselves "Damn, all of America is voting this way. So should I." It's those people that are being takin advantage of. Its those people that need to do research instead of taking everything for face value.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.... [Re: Stein]
    #2935961 - 07/28/04 12:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:shiftyeyes:


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.... [Re: Stein]
    #2935997 - 07/28/04 01:17 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

bush recieved less votes than gore in 2000, and that is an un-disputable fact. i believe that kerry will win for sure because he will pick up the votes of people bush has pissed off and nader voters who realize their mistake. i dont think any 2000 gore voters will vote bush.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2936028 - 07/28/04 01:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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bush recieved less votes than gore in 2000, and that is an un-disputable fact.




Lucky for us we're a Republic and not a democracy. The rules were rules (electoral votes)and that's an un-disputable fact. I'm not a GWB lover but you're living in denial.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.. [Re: Stein]
    #2936040 - 07/28/04 01:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Do you have any basis for claiming these polls are false?

How does having polls say that Kerry has a slight edge influence more people to vote for Kerry? To me it would seem that it would motivate people who support Bush to get off their ass and vote because he clearly needs it.

Fox news managed to come up with a poll the opposite way as well.

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I know those polls are just exit polls


aren't exit polls the surveys they do of people coming out of voting booths to get an early idea of what the vote that has already taken place was?

I can't be bothered to respond any more to this lame, retarded and unfounded post.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2936043 - 07/28/04 01:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i know the electoral system and i'm not saying we should change it...just mentioning that bush lost the popular vote


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2936053 - 07/28/04 01:35 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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just mentioning that bush lost the popular vote




that's well known. I'm just saying that it means nothing.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.... [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2936059 - 07/28/04 01:36 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

it means something ..it means that we have a president most people didnt want


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2936061 - 07/28/04 01:37 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

which goes back to my comment that we aren't a democracy, we're a republic.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.... [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #2936116 - 07/28/04 01:57 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
..it means that we have a president most people didnt want



Most people didn't want Gore either. Factoring in the non-voters, those who voted for Bush and those who voted for third party candidates tells us that Gore was not the people's choice either.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.. [Re: Tao]
    #2936157 - 07/28/04 02:12 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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TaoTeChing said:
Do you have any basis for claiming these polls are false?

How does having polls say that Kerry has a slight edge influence more people to vote for Kerry? To me it would seem that it would motivate people who support Bush to get off their ass and vote because he clearly needs it.

Fox news managed to come up with a poll the opposite way as well.

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I know those polls are just exit polls


aren't exit polls the surveys they do of people coming out of voting booths to get an early idea of what the vote that has already taken place was?

I can't be bothered to respond any more to this lame, retarded and unfounded post.






Theres a difference when a poll is taken from lets say Texas rather than California and report it as "65% of Americans Think This".

I can't be bothered to respond anymore to your lame replies/excuses.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.. [Re: Stein]
    #2936163 - 07/28/04 02:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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When Bush is reelected Im pretty sure you'll see that people are falling for such tricks and are becoming less and less aware of just how corrupt the current administration really is.




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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.. [Re: afoaf]
    #2936171 - 07/28/04 02:16 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

What the..? :lol:


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.. [Re: Stein]
    #2936295 - 07/28/04 03:02 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

it would be better for your argument if you could prove
the polls are faulty instead of insisting that they are biased
just because they don't agree with your beliefs and perceptions.

redo redux.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.. [Re: Stein]
    #2936313 - 07/28/04 03:08 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

There is only one thing the re-election of Bush could possibly prove........and that is the general ignorance of the American public.

I'm not saying that Kerry is the Shinizzle, but come on folks, who could reasonably want that no sentence speaking, ranch dwelling redneck with a gold card, running the most powerful country in the world?

I travelled abroad quite a bit during the Reagan years and was amazed on how many 'outsiders' could see through the senility of good ole Ronny, yet most Americans thought he was responsible for the end of the cold war. I can even remember the speach he gave on earth day and fucked up and said, "trees cause pollution"......he tried to cover it up rather well as he was good at speaking.(unlike bush) And the ONLY reason we 'won' the cold war was the russians just flat out ran outta money!

I just hope that Kerry can get moved in at 1600, and try and repair some of the damage Bush has done to our appearance on the world stage.
I mean we can kick ass on any one country at a time, but if they ALL decided it was a good idea to knock off them gun toting rednecks in the wild wild west.......well i don't think even Rumsfeld woould have a "plan" to stop the chineese. And i sure don't want my kids having to draw pictures to communicate. Have you ever seen a Chineese computer keyboard?


Any way i'm rambling!

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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.. [Re: PsyllyMe]
    #2936335 - 07/28/04 03:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I'm learning mandarin to prepare for the coming onslaught.


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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.. [Re: afoaf]
    #2936547 - 07/28/04 04:11 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I mean the Food is great and all, and i have personally laid a couple chineese escorts in New York, (Damn they can make some noise), but lets face it folks.......It's a Small World After All.

We all gotta try and live here!

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Re: If theres anything a Bush re-election will prove it is.. [Re: PsyllyMe]
    #2936574 - 07/28/04 04:14 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I look forward to toiling in the mines for the great Hu.


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