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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
What shootings are stopped without a gun?
Only police should be armed?

Id rather have daily mass shootings than the only armed people being law enforcement


Well then.
Congratulations.:elmo:


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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: PreparationH]
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PreparationH said:
Fuckin Air Force really dropped the ball apparently.  Shame.


That’s what I read.  Apparently there are 11 criteria that disqualify someone from buying a gun, and this guy had two of them (having served more than a year in prison, and having been convicted of a domestic violence charge).  Had the USAF properly filed his discharge info (it was a bad conduct discharge), he wouldn’t have been able to buy these guns. 

Feels to me like the people in charge of this kind of thing aren’t doing enough to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them.

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
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My fear is if they dropped the ball with him, how many more out there already have their weapon?  This is a serious problem and I am as gung ho second amendment as they come.  Worrisome for sure.


I think it's finally time to buy that ak-47 I've been looking into.


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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Why regulate any dangerous item? Because it works:




OK, so miles traveled increased relative to fatalities. That's great about the miles traveled I guess, but aren't per-capita numbers more pertinent to actual risk?

If gun murders go up this year and ammunition consumed goes up even more, is that a net win? Murders per million rounds fired will have gone down.

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Buying a gun can result in a victim if that gun is used to commit a crime


Same with buying a car or an axe you stubborn mofo.

It doesn't matter who needs a gun and who doesn't. That's irrelevant. What matters is that American citizens have the right to own a gun and can if they want to. I agree with you to a degree, nobody really needs a fully automatic weapon or a bazooka. What's wrong with having a gun just in case shit hits the fan? Should we ban apocalypse prepping too because people deem it unnecessary? People can do what they want, they just can't impede on the rights of others. It's pretty simple.


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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: twighead]
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twighead said:
bodhisatta said:
I trained on counter strike. Not cs:source. I'm talking the old shit back when it was on W@N before steam.


Same :awesome:


played the beta, suckas!  Back when it was about that 56k life.

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: TempestDnB]
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That's great about the miles traveled I guess, but aren't per-capita numbers more pertinent to actual risk?


No


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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: ballsalsa]
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most of the people on this board dont know what the 56k dial up was all about.. or the annoyance of someone picking up the phone line. :lol:


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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: koods]
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speaking of per capita numbers, the U.S. homicide rate sits just under 4/100,000pop/year.  What do you think would be the best case scenario were we to ban firearms outright?(in terms of per capita homicides)

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: rackem]
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rackem said:
most of the people on this board dont know what the 56k dial up was all about.. or the annoyance of someone picking up the phone line. :lol:


I had to mow mad lawns and wash mad cars around my neighborhood so I could afford my own line and my own earthlink account.

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Quote:
That's great about the miles traveled I guess, but aren't per-capita numbers more pertinent to actual risk?


No


Why?

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
speaking of per capita numbers, the U.S. homicide rate sits just under 4/100,000pop/year.  What do you think would be the best case scenario were we to ban firearms outright?(in terms of per capita homicides)


It's 5.3, up from 4.8 a year earlier

Europe, Canada, Australia are between .5 and 2.

Why are you satisfied with such a high murder rate?

Firearms are the number one cause of death for people under 24. You don't think that is a problem?

Firearm deaths take 1-2 years off the American life expectancy.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/07/17 11:40 AM)

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: ballsalsa]
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that was the real first taste of freedom.. what were they called teen lines or some shit like that.


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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: rackem]
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What should be the no1 cause of death for people 24 or younger?


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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: koods]
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koods said:
ballsalsa said:
speaking of per capita numbers, the U.S. homicide rate sits just under 4/100,000pop/year.  What do you think would be the best case scenario were we to ban firearms outright?(in terms of per capita homicides)


It's 5.3, up from 4.8 a year earlier

Europe, Canada, Australia are between .5 and 2.

Why are you satisfied with such a high murder rate?


you're using the UNODC data?
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Firearms are the number one cause of death for people under 24. You don't think that is a problem?

Firearm deaths take 1-2 years off the American life expectancy.


The cdc data says it's "Accidents (unintentional injuries)"  followed by "intentional self harm" for males, and females of all races.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/LCWK1_2015.pdf

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: bodhisatta]
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bodhisatta said:
What should be the no1 cause of death for people 24 or younger?


Surprised it's not opiate overdose.
:dead: . . . :peace:


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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: ballsalsa]
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I'm using the FBI data that just came out last month

https://qz.com/1086403/fbi-crime-statistics-us-murders-were-up-in-2016-and-chicago-had-a-lot-to-do-with-it/


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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: vinsue]
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vinsue said:
bodhisatta said:
What should be the no1 cause of death for people 24 or younger?


Surprised it's not opiate overdose.
:dead: . . . :peace:


Opiate deaths are higestest among people 24-54. Under 24 is significantly lower. Under 24 is the second lowest demographic for opiate deaths, followed by 55-64.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (11/07/17 11:59 AM)

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
koods said:
ballsalsa said:
speaking of per capita numbers, the U.S. homicide rate sits just under 4/100,000pop/year.  What do you think would be the best case scenario were we to ban firearms outright?(in terms of per capita homicides)


It's 5.3, up from 4.8 a year earlier

Europe, Canada, Australia are between .5 and 2.

Why are you satisfied with such a high murder rate?


you're using the UNODC data?
Quote:
Firearms are the number one cause of death for people under 24. You don't think that is a problem?

Firearm deaths take 1-2 years off the American life expectancy.


The cdc data says it's "Accidents (unintentional injuries)"  followed by "intentional self harm" for males, and females of all races.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/LCWK1_2015.pdf


A majority of self harm is firearm. Firearms are also a major contributor to accidental deaths


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Texas (Sutherland Springs) Church Shooting [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
ballsalsa said:
speaking of per capita numbers, the U.S. homicide rate sits just under 4/100,000pop/year.  What do you think would be the best case scenario were we to ban firearms outright?(in terms of per capita homicides)


It's 5.3, up from 4.8 a year earlier

Europe, Canada, Australia are between .5 and 2.

Why are you satisfied with such a high murder rate?

Firearms are the number one cause of death for people under 24. You don't think that is a problem?

Firearm deaths take 1-2 years off the American life expectancy.


Why should I care about gangs shooting each other in some US cities?    I don't.

Those statistics have nothing to do with legal gun owners who want that form of self defense.

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