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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: kintos]
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zenthor said:
i wonder how long it will take them to start blaming something or someone besides the shooter 'my grandma is allready convinced that it was "probably some drug that made him halluciante"'



I've already had 3 similiar experiences. One of them being my parents, said the exact same thing.

What's really is crazy is Bush says they dont need to re-evaluate school security, but instead tighten up what they already have. WTF? True, they dont need to re-evaluate security policy, they are already fucking us enough. Tighten up? There is absolutely nothing no person can do to stop someone like this. Yea, the current security measures may make it harder for normal people to do some crazy shit, but nothing will stop a person who has it in their head that there gonna kill a bunch of people, then kill themselves. They could put metal detectors in front of every classroom door, and every dorm door, and it's still not even close enough to stop someone that fuckin sick.

Now that this is happening so often, and getting worse, unfortunately, it seems that there will always be that one that happened again. It's inevitable in todays society. Sad truth, but it will happen again, no matter what the fuck the government comes up with to restrict our rights furthur.

I hope that everyone who cant contact their friends will find that their friends are ok. If you find out the person is ok, update your post to reflect so.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: Divided_Sky]
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No human being can just shoot 60 unarmed and innocent people. It might sound simplistic but some people are just evil. Their minds just get totally warped and destructive.




That's right, they only resemble humans on the outside, inside there's just.. evil.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: Asante]
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That's right, they only resemble humans on the outside, inside there's just.. evil.



after reading that i think i might be slightly psychopathic and i'm not really surprised.

but i wouldn't consider myself evil, just somewhat detached.

Edited by maggotz (04/16/07 08:49 PM)

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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: maggotz]
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Don't become an engineer please.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: jewunit]
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too late. :crazy2:

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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: maggotz]
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Well do us all a favor and just kill yourself first.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: jewunit]
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This is a horrible tragedy. My question is did not one person in that whole fucking building try to stand up for themselves and come up on this motherfucker from behind with a heavy object? Why did they not band together and try to stop him before so many were killed?? I haven't read any reports about anybody trying to do something about it, just reports about people cowering under their desks in fear sending text messages to mommy.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: jewunit]
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according to that wiki thing, psychopaths rarely commit suicide.

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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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mattzdope said:
This is a horrible tragedy. My question is did not one person in that whole fucking building try to stand up for themselves and come up on this motherfucker from behind with a heavy object? Why did they not band together and try to stop him before so many were killed?? I haven't read any reports about anybody trying to do something about it, just reports about people cowering under their desks in fear sending text messages to mommy.



What would you do if someone suddenly burst into your room and started shooting at you?

I can guran-fucking-tee your first thoughts won't be to try to sneak up behind him. Self preservation always wins out, especially when it happens in seconds.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: WakeboardrB]
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WakeboardrB said:
mattzdope said:
This is a horrible tragedy. My question is did not one person in that whole fucking building try to stand up for themselves and come up on this motherfucker from behind with a heavy object? Why did they not band together and try to stop him before so many were killed?? I haven't read any reports about anybody trying to do something about it, just reports about people cowering under their desks in fear sending text messages to mommy.



What would you do if someone suddenly burst into your room and started shooting at you?

I can guran-fucking-tee your first thoughts won't be to try to sneak up behind him. Self preservation always wins out, especially when it happens in seconds.



Amen. Its easier said than done.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: WakeboardrB]
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WakeboardrB said:
mattzdope said:
This is a horrible tragedy. My question is did not one person in that whole fucking building try to stand up for themselves and come up on this motherfucker from behind with a heavy object? Why did they not band together and try to stop him before so many were killed?? I haven't read any reports about anybody trying to do something about it, just reports about people cowering under their desks in fear sending text messages to mommy.



What would you do if someone suddenly burst into your room and started shooting at you?

I can guran-fucking-tee your first thoughts won't be to try to sneak up behind him. Self preservation always wins out, especially when it happens in seconds.



Except I get the impression that only two killings happened in the dorm. The rest were in the Engi building, I get the impression a lecture hall. I also read something, can't find the link anymore, that he like stepped outside for a second, probably to reload, and a group of people got up and ran through a different exit, and other people stayed and tried to play dead and shit, but that failed. It's hard to say what I would actually do, but if all I see are handguns and one shooter, and he leaves for a second, I'm leaving.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: WakeboardrB]
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WakeboardrB said:
mattzdope said:
This is a horrible tragedy. My question is did not one person in that whole fucking building try to stand up for themselves and come up on this motherfucker from behind with a heavy object? Why did they not band together and try to stop him before so many were killed?? I haven't read any reports about anybody trying to do something about it, just reports about people cowering under their desks in fear sending text messages to mommy.



What would you do if someone suddenly burst into your room and started shooting at you?

I can guran-fucking-tee your first thoughts won't be to try to sneak up behind him. Self preservation always wins out, especially when it happens in seconds.



I can guaran-fucking-tee I wouldn't be hiding under a desk text messaging my mother. But then again I was brought up to defend myself at any cost. :shrug: However yes you are right it's very hard to say exactly what you'd do in that situation. The cowardice just sickens me when the situation at hand was kill or be killed.

Yes sneaking up behind him is a bit unrealistic but you're telling me a group of 5 - 10 unarmed men (and there was a hell of a lot more people than that in that building capable of doing something) couldn't have overpowered one armed man with two hand guns?


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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fight or flight


i imagine many chose flight, but this kid chained the doors to the outside, apparently.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: Colbadol]
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Yeah thats what I read as well.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: Gumby]
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Gumby said:
CerebralFlower said:
this is terrible. people are lacking a faithful experience , lacking love. not enough love in this world. that is the point people
there have been bad vibes going around recently. its been rough.

peace will overflow the hatred



Yeah this is really fucked up.

But CerebralFlower... No more talking from you. That's enough hippie business for today.



I thought all Shroomery members were hippies..


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: JunkFood]
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you thought wrong.

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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: JunkFood]
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you dont have to be a hippy to have empathy.


but how the media just gobbles this shit up;
Click to see video footage of kids getting shot
Click to see video of the parents mourning
Click to see video of police shooting at suspect

Quote:
Don't look at me like
I am a monster
Frown out your one face
But with the other
Stare like a junkie
Into the TV
Stare like a zombie
While the mother holds her child,
Watches him die

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The universe is hostile
So impersonal
Devour to survive
So it is, so it's always been ...

We all feed on tragedy
It's like blood to a vampire

Vicariously, I
Live while the whole world dies
Much better you than I.




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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: Colbadol]
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tool is the shit!

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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
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mattzdope said:
I can guaran-fucking-tee I wouldn't be hiding under a desk text messaging my mother. But then again I was brought up to defend myself at any cost. :shrug: However yes you are right it's very hard to say exactly what you'd do in that situation. The cowardice just sickens me when the situation at hand was kill or be killed.

Yes sneaking up behind him is a bit unrealistic but you're telling me a group of 5 - 10 unarmed men (and there was a hell of a lot more people than that in that building capable of doing something) couldn't have overpowered one armed man with two hand guns?



but then you'd need 5-10 guys to agree with you on the spot.  immediately.  no hesitation.  All of them knowing that at least 2 or 3 of them will be shot and possibly killed before you even reach the guy in this bumrush.  It's easy to say that's what should be done, but to do it on the fly in the face of an armed gunman is another thing entirely. 

In all honesty, unless i had a bat in my hand, and a clear angle on the guy from behind, i'm sure i'd be running and ducking for cover as well.  I don't want to die.  Especially not in some futile attempt to rush in headlong and attack a fucking armed gunman.  That's not bravery.  That's stupidity.


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Re: Virginia Tech Shooting [Re: tiny_rabid_birds]
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A few moments on a paintball field will change some strategy. Nothing near real guns, but it definitely gets rid of the rambo attitude.

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