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Dating Tips, Ideas, Suggestions.
    #2446968 - 03/18/04 11:57 AM (20 years, 14 days ago)

Recieved some interesting dating tips today, and just wanted to share it :grin::





"The Ten Most Dangerous Mistakes YOU Probably
Make With Women-
And What To Do About It...?

Here Are The Top Ten Reasons Why Men Fail With Women-And How To Make Sure YOU Avoid Every One Of These Deadly Common Mistakes...

MISTAKE #1: Being
Too Much Of A ?Nice Guy?

      Have you ever noticed that the really attractive women never seem to be attracted "nice" guys?

      Of course you have.

      Just like me, I'm sure you've had attractive female friends that always seemed to date "jerks"... but for some reason they were never romantically interested in YOU.

      What's going on here?

      It's actually very simple...

      Women don't base their choices of men on how "nice" a guy is. They choose the men they do because they feel a powerful GUT LEVEL ATTRACTION for them.

      And guess what?

      Being nice doesn't make a woman FEEL that powerful ATTRACTION.

    And being NICE doesn't make a woman CHOOSE you.

      I realize that this doesn't make a lot of logical sense, and it's hard to ACCEPT... but GET OVER IT.

    Until you accept this FACT and begin to act on it, you'll NEVER have the success with women that you want.

MISTAKE #2: Trying To
?Convince" Her To Like You


      What do most guys do when they meet a woman that they REALLY like... but she's just not interested?

      Right! They try to "convince" the woman to feel differently.

    Well, I have news for you... YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE HOW A WOMAN "FEELS" WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTION!

      Never, ever, EVER.

      You cannot CONVINCE a woman to feel differently about you with "logic and reasoning".

      Think about it.

      If a woman doesn't "feel it" for you, how in the world do you expect to change that FEELING by being "reasonable" with her?

      But we all do it.

      When a woman just isn't interested, we beg, plead, chase, and do our best to change her mind.

      Bad idea. One that will never work.

MISTAKE #3: Looking To Her
For Approval Or Permission


      In our desire to please women (which we mistakenly think will make them like us), us guys are always doing things to get a woman's "approval" or "permission".

      Another HORRIBLE idea.

      Women are NEVER attracted to the types of men who kiss up to them... EVER.

      Don't get me wrong here.

    You don't have to treat women BADLY for them to like you.

    But if you think that treating a woman well means "always getting her approval and permission for things", think again.

      You will never succeed by looking for approval. Women actually get ANNOYED at men who seek their approval.

    Doubt me? Just ask any attractive woman if Wussy guys who chase her around and want her approval annoy her...

MISTAKE #4: Trying To ?Buy? Her Affection With Food And Gifts

      How many times have you taken a woman out to a nice dinner, bought her gifts and flowers, and had her REJECT you for someone who didn't treat her even HALF as well as you did?

      If you're like me, then you've had it happen a LOT.

      Well guess what?

      It's only NATURAL when this happens...

      That's right, I said NATURAL.

      When you do these things, you send a clear message:

"I don't think you'll like me for who I am, so I'm going to try to buy your attention and affection".

      Your good intentions usually come across to women as over-compensation for insecurity, and weak attempts at manipulation. That's right, I said that women see this as MANIPULATION.



MISTAKE #5: Sharing
?How You Feel? Too Early In
The Relationship With Her


      Another huge and unfortunate mistake that most men make with women is sharing how they "feel" too early on.

      Attractive women are rare.

      And they get a LOT of attention from men.

      Most men don't realize this, but attractive women are being approached in one way or another ALL THE TIME by men.

      An attractive woman is often approached several times a DAY by men who are interested. This translate into dozens of times per week, and often HUNDREDS of times per month.

      And guess what?

      Attractive women have usually dated a LOT of men.

      That's right. They have EXPERIENCE.

      They know what to expect.

      And one thing that turns an attractive women off and sends her running away faster than just about anything is a guy who starts saying "You know, I really, REALLY like you" after one or two dates.

      This signals to the woman that you're just like all the other guys who fall for her too fast... and can't control themselves.

      Don't do it. Lean back. Relax.

      There's a much better way...

MISTAKE #6: Not ?Getting? How Attraction Works For Women

      Women are VERY different from men when it comes to ATTRACTION.

      You need to accept this fact, and deal with it.

      When a man sees a beautiful, young, sexy woman, he INSTANTLY feels a sexual attraction.

      But does the same apply for women?

      Do women feel sexual attraction to men based mostly on looks? Or is something else going on?

      Well, after studying this topic for over five full years now, I can tell you that women usually have their "attraction mechanisms" triggered by things OTHER than looks.

      Have you ever noticed that you see a lot more average and unattractive men with beautiful women than the other way around?

      Think about it.

      Women are more attracted to certain qualities in men... and they're attracted to the way a man makes them FEEL than they are to looks alone.

      If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.

      But it's not an accident. You have to LEARN how to do this.

      And ANY guy can learn how...

MISTAKE #7: Thinking That It
Takes Money And Looks


      One of the most common mistakes that guys make is giving up before they've even gotten started... because they think that attractive women are only interested in men who have looks and money... or guys who are a certain height... or guys who are a certain age.

      And sure, there are some women who are only interested in these things.

      But MOST women are far more interested in a man's personality than his wallet or his looks.

    There are personality traits that attract women like a magnet...

      And if you learn what they are and how to use them, YOU can be one of these guys.

    YOU DO NOT have to "settle" for a woman just because you aren't rich, tall, or handsome.

    Let me say this again: If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.

MISTAKE #8: Giving Away
All Of Your Power To Women


      Earlier I mentioned that it's a mistake to look to a woman for approval or permission.

      Well, another similar tactic that a lot of guys use is GIVING AWAY THEIR POWER to women.

    Said differently, guys try to get women to like them by doing whatever the woman wants.

      Another bad idea...

      Women are NEVER attracted to men that they can walk all over... Women aren't attracted to Wussies!

MISTAKE #9: Not Knowing
EXACTLY What To Do In Each
Type Of Situation With Women


      Now I'm going to blow your mind...

      A woman ALWAYS knows what you're thinking.

    Women are approximately TEN TIMES better than men at reading body language. That's ten TIMES.

      I know, it might be hard to believe. But for example, if you're out on a date with a woman, and you want to kiss her, she knows it.

      And if you don't know exactly what to do and exactly HOW to kiss her, and you just sit there looking at her and getting nervous, she won't help!

      And this goes for ALL aspects of women and dating...

      Approaching a woman, getting her number, asking her out, kissing her, getting physical... everything.

      If you don't know what to do in each situation, you will probably screw it up... and LOSE EVERYTHING.

    And you KNOW it.

      It is VITALLY important that you know EXACTLY how to go from one step to the next with a woman... from the first meeting, all the way to the bedroom.

MISTAKE #10: Not Getting HELP

      This is the biggest mistake of all.

      This is the mistake that keeps most men from EVER having the kind of success with women that they truly want.

      I know, guys don't like to make themselves look weak or helpless. We don't like to ask for help.

      Hey, I've been there myself.

      Let me tell you a little about me and how I figured out how to be successful with women...

    About five years ago I became fed up with the fact that I didn't know how to approach, meet, and get dates with women that I was attracted to.

      It frustrated the hell out of me.

      One night I was out with a friend, and I saw a woman I wanted to ask out, but I just couldn't get up the nerve to do it. I can still remember that night... right on the spot I made the decision to do whatever it took to learn how to be successful with women and dating.

      Well, after a lot of hard work and trying all kinds of crazy things, I finally figured it all out.

    I can now approach just about any woman and get her number almost instantly. I've dated models, I've dated actresses, and I've dated nice, normal, regular girls as well.

      It has been a very rewarding experience. I no longer feel that sick, insecure feeling... like I don't know how to meet women... and I might wind up alone.

      I know that anytime, anywhere, I can go out and meet attractive women.

      I've written a book on the topic, and I've done seminars on both coasts of the United States... and taught tens of thousands of men all around the world.

      ...But the REALLY GREAT news is that I now publish a free email newsletter three times a week that teaches any guy how to increase his success with women DRAMATICALLY.

    It's free, there's no obligation, I'll never share your email address with anyone, and you can easily remove yourself anytime with no hassles (and no, I'll never pull any of these tricks where I send you a bunch of unwanted junk email when you try to remove yourself).

      Of course, it even get's better than that...

      In addition to my free email newsletter, I also have a killer downloadable eBook that you can download right now and be reading in literally MINUTES from right now.

      It's JAM PACKED with dozens and dozens of specific strategies for overcoming fear, approaching women, getting phone numbers and email address from women quickly, great inexpensive or even free date ideas, and how to take things to a "physical" level smoothly and easily.

      Download Your Copy Of The Online eBook Here

      I've also put together what is arguably the most complete educational product on planet Earth for DRAMATICALLY increasing your success with women.

      This new digitally recorded audio and video series contains over TWELVE full hours of me teaching all of the ideas, concepts, techniques, scripts, and secrets that it has taken me YEARS to learn.

      Now you can get all the benefits of hearing me teach my best ideas, all from the comfort of your own home.

      In this day and age of "instant gratification", I realize that this might just sound like another late-night info-mercial promising to make you rich by next week.

      Well, that's not the case.

      I've spent a lot of time, effort, and energy making this program. I wanted to design and create a program that ANY guy could easily understand and start using IMMEDIATELY to meet and date more women... without having to lie, do dishonest things, or be "manipulative".

      I now believe that ANY man can be more successful with women and dating, and I get emails every day with success stories from guys who are using this program to meet and date wonderful women.

    I know, I know... an audio and video program that can teach a regular guy how to be more successful in the dating world? No way.

    Well believe me, this program will DRAMATICALLY increase your success with women... I absolutely guarantee it 100%.

      If you'd like to take your success with women and dating to the next level, and have the kind of success that you've always wanted, then go check out my Advanced Dating Techniques CD/DVD Program.

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    And I'll talk to you again soon.


      Your Friend,
     
      David DeAngelo


P.S. Do some friends a favor, and FORWARD this article to their email addresses. It might be the biggest gift you ever give them.





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Re: Dating Tips, Ideas, Suggestions. [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2447227 - 03/18/04 01:09 PM (20 years, 14 days ago)

yeah i allready knewed most of this but something else this doesnt go for all girls, they are very diffrent. if your unlucky with girls just try a less attractive one :smile: or learn some pimpology

i was frustraded once about i never got the chick i wanted and stuff like that and one day i just said fuck it and didnt even bother to try anylonger and not too long after i was dating a bunch (almost a bunch heh) of chicks until i met erika (my gf for over 6 years now) and today girls seems to flirt more with me because they know i am not available, girls are some strange animals

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Re: Dating Tips, Ideas, Suggestions. [Re: shriek]
    #2447255 - 03/18/04 01:14 PM (20 years, 14 days ago)

and today girls seems to flirt more with me because they know i am not available, girls are some strange animals

Yup, it always happens when you're not "looking". :nut:

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Re: Dating Tips, Ideas, Suggestions. [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2447350 - 03/18/04 01:39 PM (20 years, 14 days ago)

if you dont know what to do in a situation just stick you toung out and flick it around with your eyes crossed. Works for me.

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Re: Dating Tips, Ideas, Suggestions. [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2447359 - 03/18/04 01:41 PM (20 years, 14 days ago)

all good advice and thanks for not being an ass and not telling anyone, but dont u find that after a while the girl(s) that u would start a serious relationship with arent the most attractive outa the bunch, cus iv seen a lot of "he could do better" of coarse meaning appearance , but the guys usually really dont care as much about looks when they get serious,

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Re: Dating Tips, Ideas, Suggestions. [Re: SkorpivoMusterion] * 2
    #26806445 - 07/06/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I hate pickup shit like this, but I have to say as a woman(who KNOWS what negging is and can see through your pathetic bullshit act, don't tell me my eyes distract from my  weird ears WILL), this is one of the better ones I've seen.

1. Yes. The women you want love kind souls. We're not sex dispensing atms that just give up the puss with x amount of nice deeds. And I get that women are treated differently, but sometimes it's so overtly obvious that someone is only being nice to you because they want to fuck you, and while it is something you get used to(and obviously you're going to be sweet to whomever you're sweet on but that's different) - never has someone like that actually garnered any real feelings of chemistry or attraction.


2. Authenticity will rule over all, for sure. And women are much more socially conditioned than men on average, imo, so we can sniff this out. Actually I should just say right now that we know most of your tricks and can smell them a mile away, but if we like you we'll play along.


3. Some women probably love this(their dude constantly seeking their approval). I don't. I think anyone in search of a healthy relationship doesn't really like it tbh, but idk, I'm sure there are some perfectly happy clingy ass couples out there. I want someone who respects me and is also not afraid to be their own person, not afraid to like things I might not enjoy, or do things I'm not interested in - because I can guarantee you I have my own part of myself that exists for me and only me as well. I want that in another person. I also want to be treated with respect, but that is absolutely a two way street and I don't view being sucked up to as respect. It's bootlicking, and you're right at least for me, I do hate that.


4. Of course. Again, plenty of women will happily take advantage of you. But the ones you want are in search of more of a partnership or balanced effort - they want your company, not your wallet. I like it when someone takes me out to dinner and treats me well, but I like to do the same too. Sometimes it's really nice to be able to treat your bf to a super nice night, and vice versa.


5. Yup. Honesty is fine, especially if it's really feeling like those feelings are returned. Be open, don't ignore her because you think it'll make her want you more(I mean it WILL, but this is not healthy, and having been in this sort of 'who can ignore the other harder' kind of dynamic, it's honestly infuriating and heartbreaking). If you glom onto her too fast then yeah, but it's okay for it to be obvious that you like her. So many people treat each other like absolute shit while dating, so I get why people are wary and I can't say I don't play by the same rule a bit myself. 


6. Okay, so we like pretty faces and bodies as much as anyone else, but sex and sexual attraction does seem like a very different experience for women. I have found myself less attracted to conventionally attractive idiots many times in the past, and more attracted to unconventionally attractive people solely because of their mannerisms/energy/personality. Be the best you that you can be. Don't focus on other people. Just do you. You try and make yourself the best person you can and I bet there's an attractive lady out there that will take notice.


7. I don't want to support your bitch ass(and vice versa, you should not have to support mine). Have a job and take care of yourself. That's all. Have goals and passion for something(maybe not necessarily your job, but something) too if you want a good relationship to go anywhere.


8. Yup. Again, I don't want someone who's viewing dating me as a power struggle or anything, but I have a strong personality, and I absolutely want one in a partner. Within reason, obviously. I don't like fighting, I'm not a mean person, I think I can just kind of be a super sarcastic goofball and I love people who can dish it out too.


9. Yeah, I know social anxiety can be a bitch. I don't really have suggestions tbh. When the chemistry is there this is not a problem. I can totally see when guys are sitting their wondering wtf to do and getting a little nervous though. I think it's kind of cute tbh, but within reason. I will absolutely make the first move but I need the chemistry to be there and to be real and obvious. If it gets in the way of our dynamic than chances are it'll just be a missed chance.


10.

Sure, whatevs, do what you want.

Just remember that women are people and people are...well..people. The pickup artistry stuff sucks, it's a joke, and just because it ropes some poor naive girl into banging a few douchebags who play the numbers game, doesn't mean it's of any real value if you're looking for a genuinely enjoyable relationship. But for the most part, I agree with this list.

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Re: Dating Tips, Ideas, Suggestions. [Re: pirate-blues]
    #26806541 - 07/06/20 09:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

We all know you have to ask somebody out on the bus if you are to get married. This thread is a revolving door.


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    #26806546 - 07/06/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Dating tip #1 throw your phone out the window for the time being.


If you want more tips it will cost you $$$ :ruggedwink:


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    #26806549 - 07/06/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I want just the tip. How much does that cost?


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    #26806551 - 07/06/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Damn you really put a lot of thought into that.

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    #26806553 - 07/06/20 09:56 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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I want just the tip. How much does that cost?



An arm and a wing :awehigh:


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    #26806556 - 07/06/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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christopera said:
I want just the tip. How much does that cost?



And arm and a wing :awehigh:






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    #26806559 - 07/06/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Ha. My phone does funny things with words sometimes :awehigh:


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    #26806642 - 07/06/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Damn you really put a lot of thought into that.







Usually these dating tips n tricks just make me roll my eyes, but this actually seemed to acknowledge that women are also just human beings, so I figured I'd expand on that.

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Re: Dating Tips, Ideas, Suggestions. [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26806644 - 07/06/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah this should be common sense but: humans are NOT objects.


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    #26806674 - 07/06/20 10:48 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)


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    #26806681 - 07/06/20 10:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

We do really like a guy with skills. Can confirm. Computer hacking skills, bow hunting skills, you name it.

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    #26806688 - 07/06/20 10:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

That is just ingrained in dna though. Natural selection shouldnt be a suprise lol :shrug:


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    #26806707 - 07/06/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

nunchuck skills?

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Re: Dating Tips, Ideas, Suggestions. [Re: remake] * 2
    #26806709 - 07/06/20 11:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

I prefer a man who can catch me a delicious bass, personally.



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