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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Plead to Women who care to listen...Respect yourselves [Re: adrug]
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adrug said:
Wonderful thread, man. :thumbup: :smile: 



Threads like this are why I stuck around the shroomery.

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Re: Plead to Women who care to listen...Respect yourselves [Re: rtn]
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Wow!, this is an old thread - it was so cool to read my response from five years ago above.  Especially to see that I hold the same feelings as I did then!  Although, I have in fact since held a partner who has been extremely sexually active with others; but as suspected, it didn't bother me and I am thankful for the time I was able to spend with her.  Whereas I first participated in this thread after having loved only one partner, I am now immersing myself in my third and I can assure you that the love I now feel and give has never been stronger.  Sometimes it takes the failure of one realtionship to learn what we need for ourselves to be successful in our next.


rtn said:
When you meet the one you love, you wish you were the first for him/her because you want to give your everything.



I do admire your passion and desire for commitment rtn, but I have a feeling you may be complicating things for yourself.  You needn't be someone's first to give them your everything!  To look at it that way would be superficial and restricting.  To judge the quality of you or your partner's ability to give of themselves based upon their sexual history is only going to make your relationships more difficult I believe. 

We are animals and we have a biological drive toward sex.  There is absolutely nothing wrong with casual sex between two consenting adults and likewise there is nothing wrong with a committed and loving relationship (it is in fact how I prefer to go about it).  But we have to recognize that things don't always work out; people are different and we are always changing.  Compatibility is not a guarantee, but it can be found and nurtured.  It will however, require acceptance and varying degrees of sacrifice.

I wish you all the best in finding the love you seek. :heart:
And thank you for bringing back this wonderful discussion. :smile:


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Re: Plead to Women who care to listen...Respect yourselves [Re: orizon]
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You're sexist. Women can respect themselves being chaste, or by sleeping around. It's a personal choice, and it's none of your business. If you like monogamy, stick with monogamous women and ignore people you don't connect with.

A desire for sex is NOT inherent to only men. Women have it too, and some women genuinely enjoy being polyamorous. There's nothing wrong or immoral about that, if you're up front with your partners. Just because you're a man doesn't mean you get to determine the ideal sexual behavior of women, and we don't need your blessing to respect our bodies and our desires.

Additionally, men do NOT have a "piggish" nature. How could you be so disrespectful to men? You've obviously bought into the propaganda our society has fed you - that men are so controlled by their sexual desires that they can't make rational decisions. This is BULLSHIT. The men I know are wonderful, sensitive human beings. I've never dated a Man who does what you describe. You must be very young and immature. Get rid of your hangups and stop being so unfair to both genders.


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While there is a lower class, I am in it
While there is a criminal element, I am of it
While there is a soul in prison, I am not free.

Eugene V Debs

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Re: Plead to Women who care to listen...Respect yourselves [Re: kriminalelement]
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You said it!

I bet the OP who wrote this is very young lol.


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"I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them.
I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do." -Robert A. Heinlein

"There is no need for temples, no need for complicated philosophies.
My brain and my heart are my temples; my philosophy is kindness."-Dalai Lama

Live long and prosper.


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Re: Plead to Women who care to listen...Respect yourselves [Re: Kada]
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I don't know. I'm 18 and a guy, and I always feel inferior because I haven't had sex with anyone. Like when people say "you really have never gotten laid?" But even though I've thought I wanted to have sex with various girls in the past, when I look back I am glad I didn't because it just wasn't someone I wanted to be that close with. I don't want to have sex with anybody I'm not already very close with and there's nobody I am interested in that way right now. I can live without sex just fine, I'm just sick of the way that it's expected of guys and girls to sleep with numerous people.

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