Niffla said:

damn this ketacaine dude be melting like

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skatealex2 said:

This might be a weird topic but I think it can cut into something more than just homophobia. Maybe racism too.

Anyway I've known religious people that are basically homophobic that I used to be friends with and I'm curious if you would defriend people that had homophobic or racist views?

Also I say this with the chance that some here may sure those views but I'd imagine it's in the minority here.

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KetaCaine said:

If every gay person died, earth would be much better off

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qman said:

skatealex2 said:

This might be a weird topic but I think it can cut into something more than just homophobia. Maybe racism too.

Anyway I've known religious people that are basically homophobic that I used to be friends with and I'm curious if you would defriend people that had homophobic or racist views?

Also I say this with the chance that some here may sure those views but I'd imagine it's in the minority here.

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What's a homophobic or racist view?

Many religious people are taught that homosexuality is a sin, is that a homophobic view? 

Many minorities want "safe spaces" that exclude whites from being present, is that a racist view?

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Theoretically racist on basis of discrimination
in practical sense, they will kick out any minority that expresses views they oppose
so it's racism when they announce it, but they care more about being agreed with

Naturally tho, true to form, such representation of safe spaces
is a hijacking and bastardization of the actual purpose of safe spaces
which is a conception to help military veterans and rape survivors in dealing with PTSD

so if the group were a support group for minority individuals
who had been victims of rape at the hands of white people
then there would be a quite legitimate ground for such a safe space to hold said stipulations
but more typically it is a sphere of political "debate"
where opposing views are not actually debated against

In Skyrim terms, they would probably be a cross between the Imperials and Thalmor


As for viewing homosexuality as a sin,
does not seem particularly homophobic in itself,
since sinning is individual,
so other people being homosexual would have no negative impact on such beliefs
and the individual could freely respect and interact with homosexuals
and just not take part in homosexual activity himself or herself

unless they avoid interacting with homosexuals as a result of said view,
at which point the question to be asked would be
are they afraid that they are going to catch Sin from being around or interacting with someone else?

BANANA.MAN said:

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all these words like homophobe, sexist, racist and the two most important these days transphobe and Islamophobia are just used to claim the moral high ground and make people who you disagree with look like a bad person. its for people who dont have facts so they use their feelings as arguments.
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It can be beneficial to not to get hung up on the terminology used,
focus on the underlying tactics
the words used will change with time and scenario, the approach will not

Your highlighting of Islamophobia is particularly valuable to consider,
as 'Islamophobia' is technically in contrast to the others
and it is possible to get into a situation where someone brands you Islamophobic
for pointing out that particular Islamic values may be homophobic, sexist, or transphobic

unless you get worried about feeling too much like an asshole
for judging Islamists for what they view as sinful

skatealex2 said:

I don't think everyone against homosexuality are bad people but I do have a dislike for religious dogma in general. Also about the bakery I totally agree you shouldn't force them to make the cake, that seems a little absurd to me.

Also about facts vs. feelings, I sometimes think that is the case for religious people. Many of them are emotionally attached to it but don't always have rational arguments to prove their religion is right. But I respect people's choice to believe what they want so long as they don't harm others.

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Tantrika said:

BANANA.MAN said:

...
all these words like homophobe, sexist, racist and the two most important these days transphobe and Islamophobia are just used to claim the moral high ground and make people who you disagree with look like a bad person. its for people who dont have facts so they use their feelings as arguments.
...

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It can be beneficial to not to get hung up on the terminology used,
focus on the underlying tactics
the words used will change with time and scenario, the approach will not

Your highlighting of Islamophobia is particularly valuable to consider,
as 'Islamophobia' is technically in contrast to the others
and it is possible to get into a situation where someone brands you Islamophobic
for pointing out that particular Islamic values may be homophobic, sexist, or transphobic

unless you get worried about feeling too much like an asshole
for judging Islamists for what they view as sinful

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tdubz said:

Maybe, I dunno

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