The Blind Ass said:

be careful, you might forget to think if your being to logical. good day.

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that's never gonna happen. your beliefs are unfounded.

if belief isn't something consciously chosen then you don't really believe it.

MrBlueYoMind said:

akira_akuma said:

oh and reality:

you are God. you devour. or you don't.

you either act. or you don't.

the Tao is more accurate a philosophy, than Christianity. bar none.

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If I am God, then so is Christ.

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Christ even said "Ye are Gods, you are children of the Mosh High" and the NT is full of him indirectly saying to his apostles "no you bunch of dipsticks, dont put me on a pedestal, what I do you can do and I want you to learn to do what I can do" and they're all "noo you are the Lord, we are but worms" Jesus wants you to stop being a muggle, awaken the Divinity within and literally walk on water.

They JUST. DIDN'T. GET. IT.




You are the Observer in a system where the Universe is willing to turn a blind eye if your conviction and faith is strong enough. You can do ANYTHING if you align you mind and spirit.

akira_akuma said:

i wanted to share my opinion, and have a discussion, about the rationale people use to impart their beliefs on the world, and in a lot of instances, force their opinions down people's throats, based on ridiculous notions that have no logical backing, and that are only based on fairy tales and hokum. such as "God is in control!"

no, that isn't true at all.

but i'd like to discuss why people think they can construe that as logical, based on the fact that they believe in it so strongly. i don't think christians should do that; nor do i think they should be running a free country; too risky.

things like the pervading notion that "Sex is a mortal sin", for one example, out of many.

things like that ^ are untenable...yet christians always want to tout that their reasoning for believing such things, are based in logic and rationality, when it's bereft of it entirely. the logic breaks down completely. same goes for the notion that "the christan God is the true God".

yeah, people say these things, and try to argue that it's true, when there is literally and absolutely no way of that being true, and then use that belief to try and justify their actions, and instincts about the world. the notion is a lie, a convenient lie to try and control people. that's all it is.

christians try to rationalize their bigotry and their fears about their moral quandaries, with logic, logic which has no place in their beliefs, because their beliefs are not rational.

i don't think it's smart to allow a political force that thinks the crazy things christians believe to try and settle anything with logic, regarding those beliefs, because those beliefs are inherently unsound to begin with, and logic doesn't fit into them; regardless how hard one tries to make their beliefs make sense, they just don't. i don't want them running the country, nor do i want their propaganda-laden political movements to seduce young people into losing their rational mind.

in a sense, christianity poisons the rational minds logic with unsound beliefs, which essentially make christians unable to logical rule their mind, and thus unable to make a logical stance, or take logical station, for anyone in anyway, within any kind of command structure, let alone, any kind of debate.

as soon as their beliefs enter the debate it becomes quite obvious that they are not rational...i fear, that it goes so far as to completely taint the minds logical faculties, if one holds the beliefs that christians tend to hold, within the majority of the religion.

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syncro said:

Does it benefit me to judge a religion on its worst or middling representatives, or the best of them? Where I choose to weigh something is just a reflection of my state.

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syncro said:

Does it benefit me to judge a religion on its worst or middling representatives, or the best of them? Where I choose to weigh something is just a reflection of my state.

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Bozko said:

syncro said:

Does it benefit me to judge a religion on its worst or middling representatives, or the best of them? Where I choose to weigh something is just a reflection of my state.

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Tell that to the Christians.


Lol at the whole "my grams aerosol inhaler made me conservative" dude. Global warming is a liberal myth! And all leftists are pagans haunted by demons. Bullshit rhetoric, but sadly common.

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syncro said:

Bozko said:

syncro said:

Does it benefit me to judge a religion on its worst or middling representatives, or the best of them? Where I choose to weigh something is just a reflection of my state.

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Tell that to the Christians.


Lol at the whole "my grams aerosol inhaler made me conservative" dude. Global warming is a liberal myth! And all leftists are pagans haunted by demons. Bullshit rhetoric, but sadly common.

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I think you missed and illustrated my point. There are Christians who are pure and nonjudgmental, aware of mystical truth beyond religious divisions. Do we weigh by the more evolved, or less? We judge from where we are.

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syncro said:

Bozko said:

syncro said:

Does it benefit me to judge a religion on its worst or middling representatives, or the best of them? Where I choose to weigh something is just a reflection of my state.

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Tell that to the Christians.


Lol at the whole "my grams aerosol inhaler made me conservative" dude. Global warming is a liberal myth! And all leftists are pagans haunted by demons. Bullshit rhetoric, but sadly common.

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I think you missed and illustrated my point. There are Christians who are pure and nonjudgmental, aware of mystical truth beyond religious divisions. Do we weigh by the more evolved, or less? We judge from where we are.

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Bozko said:

I did not miss your point.


Some of the people here arguing for Christianity openly deride other Religions with no filtering second thought. These same people claim the left is "pagan"as an insult. They give no tolerance, they get no tolerance. This isn't some thought experiment, my life would be better without organized religion.

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indeed.

Christianity goes hand in hand with right-wing political values (at it's core), and people will literally call a "filthy leftist" Pagan, of all things, "Pagan"...as an insult.

because the two notions (political ideology and religious ideology) are intrinsically tied together...but mention Nazis though, and that's just WRONG, of course...because that propagates notions antithetical to political parties.

LRG said:

You seem to enjoy the word logic. What we know and the thirst for knowledge are manifestations of the ego and even our True Selves, imo.

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Bozko said:

Some of the people here arguing for Christianity openly deride other Religions with no filtering second thought. These same people claim the left is "pagan"as an insult. They give no tolerance, they get no tolerance. This isn't some thought experiment, my life would be better without organized religion.

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akira_akuma said:

only towards those who use their words and ideology as a cudgel and crutch.

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LRG said:

akira_akuma said:

only towards those who use their words and ideology as a cudgel and crutch.

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So you've never once agreed with anything in Bible? I find that hard to believe. "Thou shall not kill." Pretty simple one we can all agree on... logically. Logic and faith can meet in the middle and agree on things.

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akira_akuma said:

Christians literally would never have people give them anti-christian sentiment, if they weren't already considering other beliefs or non-Christians as toxic themselves.

why do you think there are people who are anti-christian?

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akira_akuma said:

LRG said:

akira_akuma said:

only towards those who use their words and ideology as a cudgel and crutch.

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So you've never once agreed with anything in Bible? I find that hard to believe. "Thou shall not kill." Pretty simple one we can all agree on... logically. Logic and faith can meet in the middle and agree on things.

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i never said that. i've read the Bible and Jesus basically never really said anything that isn't easily supported (at least for the time he and his apostles were extant in history)

what i meant was...Christians who use their ideology as a crutch or cudgel, in arguments, whom slander other ideologies, whom use words to play games, those people i'll use word play to get them to admit their logic is faulty.

otherwise, i don't care what logic is faulty. i like having fun, more than i like upending religious arrogance.

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