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Re: dealing with religious differences in the family [Re: lukeboots]
    #2378860 - 02/26/04 11:48 AM (13 years, 4 days ago)

If you are spiritual, believe in god or whatever, that should be enough to content her. In my family there are some who are very religious and some who are atheists but we all get along ok cause we respect each others good intentions.
I would just let your mom know that you're not ready to make a commitment to any formal religion yet, that it's possible in the future you may, and that in the meantime you're gonna do your best to live a positive life. If she presses you, try to present your counterarguments against Lutheranism calmly, without getting into a hostile fit.


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Re: dealing with religious differences in the family [Re: lukeboots]
    #2379413 - 02/26/04 01:53 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

tell her dr luther said:
better a fervent mohammedan than a lukewarm christian
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or, when you experience the lutheran liturgy, listen closely to the words being uttered (in the brief order for public confession, in the words of the apostles (or the nicene) creed (hey, what about the athanasian creed, huh?), in the words of institution, in the lords prayer...) listen closely, as you recite them with your fellow parshioners --- and realize that THIS is your koan... (hey man, we are working on the same koan!) :heart:
when you real-ize (i.e. "to make real") the words in your living of your life, well... this is kensho...
& if you just can't see the truth that undergirds the christian mindset (& if your mom just can't see that "myth" can be world-shakingly powerful with needing to be "historically factual" & "theologically inerrant"...) --- well maybe you've got a problem... hehheh...
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(just wondering --- ELCA, or missouri or wisconsin synod?)
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& if you wanna sample my meandrings which will lead to the formation of a new schism (once my daughter graduates HS) - the gnostic redeemer zen lutheran church of north america - (an eclectic heterodox mahayanist christian sect) - well, just ask (but i might not answer :wink: ...)
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Re: dealing with religious differences in the family [Re: lukeboots]
    #2379421 - 02/26/04 01:56 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

or how about:
hey mom, there's a seeker born every minute...
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(well, maybe not :wink: ...)


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Re: dealing with religious differences in the family [Re: gnrm23]
    #2379702 - 02/26/04 02:54 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

thanks for the advice guys.. i'll probably just tell her exactly what question_for_joo said..

and its missouri synod :wink:


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Re: dealing with religious differences in the family [Re: lukeboots]
    #2382497 - 02/27/04 11:08 AM (13 years, 3 days ago)

well, LCMS... there ya go...
(arrr, heh, tell her ya wanna go join ELCA... :wink: ...)
(who, of course, are now in full "pastor & pulpit fellowship" with, ummmm, UCC, reform, episcopal, & mebbe a couple other'ns as well... & have "made nice" with roman catholics & greek orthodox...)
(or, if ya really wanna freak her out, tell her you're gonna go unitarian/universalist :wink: ...)
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Re: dealing with religious differences in the family [Re: lukeboots]
    #2388264 - 02/29/04 06:37 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

I'm not the one to judge your mother, but anyone who feels "sorry for you" because you don't share the same beliefs as they do is quite narrowminded. Live and let live, my friend. Please, I mean no offense to you or your mother.

A suggestion I can offer you is to simply tell your mother that she holds her beliefs, and you hold yours. Thank her for her perspective about the bible and have a polite, civilized discussion about it! :beer:


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Re: dealing with religious differences in the family [Re: lukeboots]
    #2404130 - 03/04/04 09:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

you know what always works for me?
take a shit in her chest...

im just kidding man, dont take me seriously.
really, just tell them that you appreciate their guidance so far, but now your seeking, and thats healthy. it shows an intrest for the path. explain that you have to search, just like every good mind. you must experience somethings for yourself, and religion/spirituality is the greatest one. just tell them how you really feel. good luck taro-kun


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