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The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread * 4
    #23732263 - 10/12/16 07:34 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Mkay, so here's where we post where we stand on the issues.

Some rules:

1) You dont get to discuss any particular issue without clarifying your position on it first.

2) Discussion isnt really the point of this thread, more of a reference point, and a place where we can get to know one another's outlook without any distractions or congruent arguments.

3) If you think of any more issues (I'm sure I won't rattle off all of them on my first attempt), just add them below in quote form. As the list grows, we can all update our OPs so everything is updated.

4) Umm...maybe if you changed your mind on a certain issue you can explain why. Idk.



Anyways heres my first shot at the list:



Social:
Gay rights/marriage
BLM/institutionalized racism
Abortion

Justice:
Legalize all drugs/just weed
Death penalty
Private prisons
The bail system
Stop and frisk
Stingray use/4th amendment concerns
Public police oversight
Police militarization

Economics:
Progressive tax system
Raise taxes on rich?
Corporate tax rate and deductions
Trade deals, tariffs
Unionized labor
Estate tax
VAT tax
Social security
The role of the Federal Reserve
Gold backed currency

Legislative Agenda:
Amendment to overturn citizens united
New Glass Steagal
Healthcare
Guantanamo Bay
Illegal Immigration
Guns

Foreign Policy:
Interventionist wars
Foreign Aid
Diplomatic ties to hostile regimes
Sanctions
Nuclear capabilities
Our responsibilities to the UN and international law

Environment:
Climate Change
Fracking
EPA and related regulation
Carbon tax
Fossil fuel subsidies
Solar subsidies
Wind power

General:
Preferred economic model
The role of corporations
Education
Jobs
Biggest problem facing USA (or your nation if not US)


Just quote the list and add a sentence or two in bold or something to each item. And update the list as you go if you can.

REMEMBER: this thread is for learning what others think about our increasingly long list of issues. Discussion is not the intention.


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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23732292 - 10/12/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

You go first so we understand what you're looking for.


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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23732315 - 10/12/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Social:
Gay rights/marriage pro equal rights for everyone
BLM/institutionalized racism BLM has raised an important issue that most definitely exists, although not specific to blacks. I may not agree with all of their tactics or message, but this is an issue that needs to be dicussed and solved
Abortion pro choice

Justice:
Legalize all drugs/just weed all drugs
Death penalty im anti death penalty. The cruelty notwithstanding, theres no evidence it deters crime and moreso and it costs us a shitload
Private prisons hell no
The bail system this is a tricky one, but ill start by saying its bullshit that you should have to pay money to get out of jail before youre tried or convicted
Stop and frisk hell no. Outdated, ineffectivr, violation of rights
Stingray use/4th amendment concerns unconstitutional, needs to cease immediately
Public police oversight all for it. Nothing to hide? Nothing to fear.
Police militarization hell no. We have the national guard if we need soldiers. SWAT is more than enough.

Economics:
Progressive tax system yes
Raise taxes on rich? yes
Corporate tax rate and deductions leave rate the same, clean up deductions and loopholes
Trade deals, tariffs this is a big one. Globalism hurts us, so it sucks, but ita the trend. Our policymakers shouldnt be so forthcoming in their eagerness to sell out our workers, but there isnt much to be done that wont hurt us as well
Unionized labor more unions, workers benefit
Estate tax yes. Inheritances are an antiquated idea, especially in a capitist society, they should at the very least be taxed.
VAT tax not too sure about this one yet. A wall street transaction taxay be better
Social security expand
The role of the Federal Reserve SHOULD be more limited, considering its puppet status of the banking cartel. But as qman often notes, its reach is unavoidable at this point to keep our house of cards standing
Gold backed currency yes. fiat currency has many drawbacks

Legislative Agenda:
Amendment to overturn citizens united yes
New Glass Steagal yes
Healthcare single payer option
Guantanamo Bay close
Illegal Immigration strengthen borders, path to citizenship for those already here
Guns restricted at least as much as a drivers license.

Foreign Policy:
Interventionist wars no
Foreign Aid discretionary. When indonesia gets a tsunami? Yes. When israel wants more f-22s? No.
Diplomatic ties to hostile regimes yes. No harm in talking to iran/dprk/russia/etc
Sanctions only in the most extreme of circumstances. Ex: bad move to sanction saddam, regular iraqis suffered and half a million died
Nuclear capabilities im for global nuclear disarmament. At the very least, proliferation regulated by the UN
Our responsibilities to the UN and international law following international law is huge for our imags overseas. Breaking any of them wouldnt be worth it

Environment:
Climate Change exists
Fracking should be outlawed. Risk too great for groundwater contamination
EPA and related regulation need to be more stringently enforced, and/or expanded
Carbon tax yes
Fossil fuel subsidies split evenly with alternative fuel funding. An immediate cut of subsidies would send oil prices skyrocketing and shock the economy. BUT we do need to force an economic argument for alternatives
Solar subsidies answered above
Wind power we have a shitload of wind on the plains. A federal infrastructure bill could create millions of jobs and simultaneously create the infrastructure necessary to power half the nation

General:
Preferred economic model half socialism, half capitalism. Maybe a little heavier on the socialism
The role of corporations should be reduced as we approach a world where jobs dont exist and they control all the resources (material and otherwise)
Education should be funded way more than it is. Bring back subsidized two year public colleges
Jobs cant just wave a magic wand, and our manufacturing is gone forever. But an infrastructure bill would help in the short term, and solve other problems
Biggest problem facing USA (or your nation if not US)corporate owned politicians. We need to get money out of politics before we can do anything else





There. I tried to phrase things in a yay/nay type setup, but other things require a little more than that. But yeah, just a quick sentence or two to outline your position. An introduction, kinda.

We can flesh out the nuance and complexity once we've seen where we all stand. Above all I'm just looking to have a thread surrounded around clarification of our person beliefs. No one should be challenging anyone in a hostile manner, or going off topic, or bashing anyone for their beliefs. If anyone wants me or anyone else to expound on a particular stance, just quote the line so we dont get a big jumbled mess of quoted walls of text.


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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23732477 - 10/12/16 08:58 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:






Social:
Gay rights/marriage--pro equal rights for all
BLM/institutionalized racism--racism exists and needs to be addressed, though i don't always agree with BLM shit like blocking highways
Abortion--pro-life, but i'm willing to concede to societal convention.  Why is it murder to throw and infant in the garbage, but not a fetus? because it's super important to women to have the option, and most people seem to agree that it is so.:shrug:

Justice:
Legalize all drugs/just weed--this one is hard, because it begs the question of who should judge which drugs worthy of legalization.  For myself, i think legalize everything to some extent except meth maybe.  that shit is horrible
Death penalty--Not a fan, but we should do it if we're gonna do it.
Private prisons--fuck private prisons. profit motives lead to corruption
The bail system--I honestly had not thought much about this.  I always get out O.R.
Stop and frisk--stop and frisk is bullshit
Stingray use/4th amendment concerns--i'm against surveilance of the public in general
Public police oversight--needed badly in order for people to recover some level of confidence in the police
Police militarization--bad move. also, corporate welfare.

Economics:
Progressive tax system--we need to apply it to state and local taxes more
Raise taxes on rich?--no doubt
Corporate tax rate and deductions--close loopholes, make them actually pay something
Trade deals, tariffs--I am in favor of protecting American labor interests.  That probably includes some amount of tariffs.
Unionized labor--In favor of unions.  Unions protect american labor interests
Estate tax--lower the minimum threshold to 1 million
VAT tax--seems regressive to me.
Social security--should be secured and expanded by raising the cap to include all wages/salary
The role of the Federal Reserve--its all pretty shady, and it depends on who you ask
Gold backed currency--is stable, but not easily expanded.

Legislative Agenda:
Amendment to overturn citizens united--this needs to be done.  lets get it done
New Glass Steagal--this needs to be done.  lets get it done
Healthcare--single payer
Guantanamo Bay--close it
Illegal Immigration--all of the above except for a stupid fucking wall
Guns--are the only hedge against government gone mad.  I'm not saying that we need them right now, but it would be irresponsible to give them up on behalf of future generations that might need them

Foreign Policy:
Interventionist wars--big waste of life and money.  Rarely the best strategic choice.  We really should have learned to knock that shit off by now
Foreign Aid--Is mostly in the form of weapons or money to buy weapons.  The lion's share of aid goes to the most belligerent parties rather than the most needy
Diplomatic ties to hostile regimes--are vital to any effort to make them less hostile
Sanctions--are one effective means of forcing other countries to align policy aims with yours
Nuclear capabilities--keep them updated i guess, but there's no real need for expansion. we could stand to have fewer nukes probably
Our responsibilities to the UN and international law--its more the other way around. the UN was created to divide the world between the major powers at the end of WW2 and maintain a status quo of spheres of influence by suppressing wars for territory by any other nation

Environment:
Climate Change--is real one way or the other. lets see if we can effect it the other way now
Fracking--has turned out to be a terrible mistake
EPA and related regulation--ask someone who was around a major city before the EPA
Carbon tax--lets stop talking about it and just do it already
Fossil fuel subsidies--fuck that. more coporate welfare for some of the most profitable industries around
Solar subsidies--lets do it but be reasonable about it
Wind power--is an important component in renewable energy regimes

General:
Preferred economic model--highly regulated capitalism
The role of corporations--to allow ventures larger than a small number of partners can finance on their own
Education--is really important and the public should finance an investment in education nationally
Jobs--need to be protected until we can one day transition to a post scarcity society
Biggest problem facing USA (or your nation if not US)--Income inequality





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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23733110 - 10/13/16 03:50 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:

Social:
Gay rights/marriage -yes
BLM/institutionalized racism -very real in many cases/places, BLM itself is hard to judge as a movement as it isn't organized, but there is a lot to their methods, and idealogies of many members which I disagree with
Abortion -yes, honestly I'm not sure if killing babies after birth even, in some circumstances, is wrong, though it's a debate I don't enjoy

Justice:
Legalize all drugs/just weed -legalize them all but don't legalize selling of some of them and certainly regulate corporate production.
Death penalty -perhaps in extreme cases though it is probably best to keep the option off limits. Personally I like the idea of giving inmates the option of death as a way out, not a punishment
Private prisons -a terrible idea that can't help but lead to corruption
The bail system -a terrible classist idea
Stop and frisk -awful unnecessary and inhuman
Stingray use/4th amendment concerns
Public police oversight -the police need to be watched yes
Police militarization -increases tension between public and police and highly unnecessary

Economics:
Progressive tax system -yes
Raise taxes on rich? -yes I support a maximum wage actually too
Corporate tax rate and deductions -more tax, fewer loopholes, more accountability
Trade deals, tariffs -to some extent yes
Unionized labor -absolutely unions, though sometimes problems in themselves, are absolutely necessary in a capitalist world
Estate tax -yes some amounts of wealth are just absurd and imo shouldn't be passed on to individuals
VAT tax -works all right to my knowledge
Social security -yes, more of it
The role of the Federal Reserve -people I respect have argued it should be limited, but I've only looked into the matter superficially and can't say I have a strong opinion.
Gold backed currency -as explained to me this has always made good sense but I'm not attached to it

Legislative Agenda:
Amendment to overturn citizens united -yes
New Glass Steagal -yes
Healthcare -'free' state funded healthcare for all
Guantanamo Bay -close that sucker
Illegal Immigration -keep it in check by policing employers, but don't obsess needlessly over it
Guns -a side issue. guns wont save us from our tyrannical leaders, its past that now. Should be restricted similar to driver's licenses (which ought to be more restricted themselves in my view

Foreign Policy:
Interventionist wars -generally no, certainly not in the model of any recent ones
Foreign Aid -yes but stop sending bombs and weaponry
Diplomatic ties to hostile regimes -yes we need to talk to our enemies and where possible, end hostilities or work to diffuse them
Sanctions -sometimes yes, sometimes no
Nuclear capabilities -disarmament whenever possible
Our responsibilities to the UN and international law -we must uphold it if we want to be the good guys and certainly if we wanna play world police

Environment:
Climate Change -very real, seems like it's almost definitely induced by us. Even if it somehow isn't, its a problem
Fracking -no
EPA and related regulation -more seriously followed
Carbon tax -sure
Fossil fuel subsidies -hell no
Solar subsidies -sure
Wind power -yes where sensible

General:
Preferred economic model -between socialism and tightly regulated capitalism, as both models have strengths and weaknesses
The role of corporations -should be strictly limited and regulated, in some cases de-privatized
Education -vital, democracy is meaningless without it, freedom is meaningless without knowdlege of available options
Jobs -need to be secured until transition into a more socially minded or outright socialist society
Biggest problem facing USA (or your nation if not US) (Canada) corporate monopolies of power paired with income inequality and a spreading disdain for logic itself, encouraged by the wolves in sheep's clothing 'appeal to the masses' politician types





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Re: The Official [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23733433 - 10/13/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Social:
Gay rights/marriage pro equal rights for everyone
BLM/institutionalized racism BLM is a symptom of a pressing issue and shouldnt be dismissed. Institutionalised racism and  white privilege are things not to be ignored.
Abortion pro choice

Justice:
Legalize all drugs/just weed all drugs, one at a time, with the correct/appropriate regulations in place and ample funding in treatment
Death penalty I am against the death penalty: I dont think its effective at all and it has resulted in the murder of many innocent people
Private prisons nope - too prone to corruption
The bail system dont know enough about it but seems wrong that those with money can get out.
Stop and frisk no, ineffective and prone to abuse
Stingray use/4th amendment concerns unconstitutional. greater oversight and discussion needed to ensure constitutional rights are maintained in the digital age and to prevent the abuse of surveillance powers
Public police oversight A must for many reasons but to improve accountability and trust
Police militarization against, this is ridiculous

Economics:
Progressive tax system yes
Raise taxes on rich? yes
Corporate tax rate and deductions i dont know
Trade deals, tariffs i dont know
Unionized labor more unions, workers benefit, country benefits
Estate tax yes, inheritance perpetuates inequalities in society so think it should be at least taxed according to the amount.
VAT tax I dont know
Social security expand - helping the poorest in society helps everyone in society, helping the rich in society only helps the rich
The role of the Federal Reserve I dont know much about but they seem to have a hell of a lot of autonomy and should probably be reigned in quite a bit
Gold backed currency i dont know enough about this

Legislative Agenda:
Amendment to overturn citizens united yes
New Glass Steagal yes
Healthcare single payer option
Guantanamo Bay close / use for bankers
Illegal Immigration path to citizenship for those in the US, penalties for employers taking advantage of illegal workers, perhaps proof of eligibility to work in the US..
Guns part of US society whether I like it or not. I like the idea of the right to bear arms in how the Swiss do it - well trained and qualified people have guns. i like the idea of it being a check and balance on government but if it came to the extreme of govt tyranny, i doubt a few AR15s are going to stop the military much. I would support more regulation, at least on par if not above the level for a driving license.
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Foreign Policy:
Interventionist wars no!  but intervention in general should be on the table for extreme situations where there is a clear responsibility and consensus to protect. Unfortunately, this is open to abuse so must be undertaken incredibly cautiously
Foreign Aid to fuel development, not destruction, in the world, yes.
Diplomatic ties to hostile regimes yes, we should talk to hostile regimes, otherwise things tend to fester and escalate
Sanctions can be very destructive for the population at large and that doesn't get them on your side. Should be used carefully in only the most serious situations..
Nuclear capabilities definitely for global disarmament
Our responsibilities to the UN and international law we should adhere to international law and support the UN to improve peaceful relations. 

Environment:
Climate Change exists, obviously, and is a major priority to tackle. too little, too late.
Fracking should be banned for the contamination that comes with it, as well as the continued dependence it puts on fossil fuels after investing in the infrastructure
EPA and related regulation more enforcement plus more regulation to foster sustainability and consider ecological impact
Carbon tax yes please
Fossil fuel subsidies should be reduced incrementally and redirected to renewable technology to facilitate a transition
Solar subsidies yes - important, investment into R&D to make it more efficient. perhaps subsidies to get solar powers onto appropriate homes
Wind power yes please - where most practicable. Also in favour of all other renewable techologies - geothermic, zero-point, wave power, etc etc
I also support the idea of some transcontinental energy systems. eg. solar power systems in the sahara, wind and wave power in the north sea etc- all connected to communal energy grids


General:
Preferred economic model more socialism, less capitalism. workers cooperatives, social enterprises, pay ratios between employer and employee, etc
The role of corporations to create
Education should be invested in to improve the quality and should be made perhaps completely tuition-free.
Jobs With a serious transition from fossil fuels, the investment in new technologies and supporting infrastructure could create a lot of jobs
Biggest problem facing USA (or your nation if not US)i agree - corporate-political power in the US is too strong and this is the first thing that needs to change before we can untaint our politics





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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23733636 - 10/13/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Social:
Gay rights/marriage equal treatment for everyone, I don't care who you're fucking
BLM/institutionalized racism The United States, in 2016, confers statistically significant poorer treatment of large effect size upon certain sections of the population
Abortion personally pro-life, the law must be pro-choice

Justice:
Legalize all drugs/just weed legalize it all
Death penalty Absolutely not
Private prisons nope
The bail system seems patently unfair, whether or not an individual is a public risk is related to the crime. good behavior before trial can be enforced with surveillance, not medieval bail
Stop and frisk no
Stingray use/4th amendment concerns unconstitutional
Public police oversight of course, the public deserves extreme and detailed oversight into the state actors entrusted to use violence
Police militarization must be reversed severely. Violent crime appears to be hardly effected by the explosion in police authority+armaments

Economics:
Progressive tax system yes
Raise taxes on rich? if any change has a chance of appearing to be fair they must be applied somewhat evenly. Unilateral hikes on the rich with cuts for the middle/poor won't fly
Corporate tax rate and deductions If corporations are afforded legal personhood and a growing body of rights, then the corp. must pay its taxes
Trade deals, tariffs Free trade and globalism won't be stopped by anything short of perhaps a gigantic energy crisis. submit ye fools
Unionized labor I will always be ready to organize, mega-corps will run the show however they feel like unless they have a strong opponent
Estate tax All other transactions between entities (even family) are taxed, I don't quite understand why this one is so political
VAT tax sounds like a good idea to me
Social security seems a bit broken at the moment
The role of the Federal Reserve -
Gold backed currency hell no, the US economy has proven itself far more stable than any one material

Legislative Agenda:
Amendment to overturn citizens united yes
New Glass Steagal yes
Healthcare single payer option
Guantanamo Bay close
Illegal Immigration strengthen borders, path to citizenship for those already here
Guns restricted at least as much as a drivers license.

Foreign Policy:
Interventionist wars no
Foreign Aid When money spent abroad would further US interests greater than the same sum at home, yes
Diplomatic ties to hostile regimes diplomacy first
Sanctions seem a very effective foreign policy tool, to be enacted co-operatively
Nuclear capabilities reduce and disarm before it is too late
Our responsibilities to the UN and international law no institution will ever be perfect, but these provide useful alternatives to armed conflict/trade wars.

Environment:
Climate Change exists, and is driven by the actions of human beings
Fracking when shown to be sufficiently safe, should be permitted
EPA and related regulation is doing a damn good job
Carbon tax sounds reasonable if done correctly
Fossil fuel subsidies need to be reduced past the even point and then penalized
Solar subsidies should be increased (there is a real incentive to switching to renewables before the market would do so on its own)
Wind power yes, please

General:
Preferred economic model anarchy
The role of corporations -
Education needs more money, supporting it on property taxes doesn't make much sense and isn't working
Jobs a self correcting issue
Biggest problem facing USA (or your nation if not US)Electoral reform, money in politics




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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: Crumist] * 4
    #23738607 - 10/14/16 09:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

boy, there sure are a lot of regular posters in this forum who are conspicuously absent from this thread.


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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23739017 - 10/15/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Social:
Gay rights/marriage - Let people do what makes them happy
BLM/institutionalized racism - I agree that Black Lives Matter too
Abortion - Pro choice.  I don't think a life is sacred until it is aware of its own existence.

Justice:
Legalize all drugs/just weed - Legalize all but the most statistically dangerous drugs
Death penalty - Against.  Too many innocent people have been put to death
Private prisons - Against.  Private industry has no motivation to make prisons good
The bail system - Only for people believed to be dangerous
Stop and frisk - Wrong because it targets minorities
Stingray use/4th amendment concerns - Neutral
Public police oversight - Yes; the public should have oversight of public institutions.
Police militarization - Neutral

Economics:
Progressive tax system - A must for a strong middle class
Raise taxes on rich? - A must for a strong middle class
Corporate tax rate and deductions - Eliminate corporate taxes, and raise the capital gains tax to compensate
Trade deals, tariffs - Bad, unless corporations hog all the profits from free trade (which is what we see today)
Unionized labor - A must for a strong middle class
Estate tax - Children of the rich should not be entitled to tax free income; inheritance should be taxed at least as much as income
VAT tax - Against because it's a regressive tax
Social security - Expand by eliminating the cap for the wealthy
The role of the Federal Reserve - Stabilizes the economy and makes it easier to borrow
Gold backed currency - Bad idea because the value of the dollar would be tied to the value of gold, and the rich could hoard dollars forcing their own wealth up.

Legislative Agenda:
Amendment to overturn citizens united - Should be overturned; corporations have too much power over Government
New Glass Steagal - Yes, the repeal of Glass Steagall was disastrous
Healthcare - Should be single payer so we don't waste money on insurance companies (who make more denying care)
Guantanamo Bay - Close it
Illegal Immigration - Neutral
Guns - Neutral

Foreign Policy:
Interventionist wars - Wasteful and harmful
Foreign Aid - Not for weapons
Diplomatic ties to hostile regimes - We need more communication, less use of force
Sanctions - Ineffective as they hurt the people, not the Government
Nuclear capabilities - Eliminate all nuclear weapons
Our responsibilities to the UN and international law - We need to follow international law if we agree to it

Environment:
Climate Change - Science says it's happening
Fracking - Neutral
EPA and related regulation - Great idea if you put the right people in charge
Carbon tax - Creates incentive to reduce carbon emissions
Fossil fuel subsidies - Fuels global warming
Solar subsidies - Encourages clean energy
Wind power - Renewable clean energy

General:
Preferred economic model - A mix of capitalism and socialism, similar to Northern Europe
The role of corporations - Corporations make life better for everyone if they share their wealth with the people who earn it for them
Education - It's important that the public be well educated.  Public college should be free.
Jobs - Should be provided by Government for people who can't find work
Biggest problem facing USA (or your nation if not US) - Corporations giving workers a smaller and smaller share of the wealth they earn


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    #23741710 - 10/16/16 08:37 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Still waiting on qman, starfire, petey, and HU to post here.


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    #23742421 - 10/16/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Still waiting on qman, starfire, petey, and HU to post here.




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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23742532 - 10/16/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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Social:
Gay rights/marriage:  Marriage should not be a legal designation for anyone, gay, straight, bi, or otherwise.
BLM/institutionalized racism: Racism exists and always will.  BLM are idiots.  Combat racism through education.
Abortion: Roe v. Wade should be overturned.  Abortion should be legal everywhere right up to the hour before birth.

Justice:
Legalize all drugs/just weed: Highly addictive drugs should remain illegal or heavily regulated.  No one should face criminal charges for possession.
Death penalty:  Barbarous and obsolete in a modern society

Private prisons:  If cost effective and compliant with Constitution, I'm all for it.
The bail system:  Antiquated.  Technology can do the job far better without destroying lives.
Stop and frisk: Lol, no.
Stingray use/4th amendment concerns:  Nope
Public police oversight: All public employees should have open records.
Police militarization: Not necessary.

Economics:
Progressive tax system:  Unfair, but completely essential.
Raise taxes on rich?:  On the fence. 
Corporate tax rate and deductions:  No corporate taxation is necessary.  Instead, tax shareholders.
Trade deals, tariffs:  Tariffs don't work, but free trade deals limit our options.
Unionized labor:  Keep it legal to unionize.  Keep it legal for employers to fire whomever they want, whenever they want.
Estate tax:  Don't care
VAT tax: Don't need.
Social security:  Necessary, but somewhat inefficient.
The role of the Federal Reserve:  It's working alright, but more oversight would be nice
Gold backed currency:  Unworkable and stupid.

Legislative Agenda:
Amendment to overturn citizens united:  Hell no.
New Glass Steagal:  Don't care.
Healthcare:  Individual responsibility.
Guantanamo Bay:  Close immediately.
Illegal Immigration:  End immediately with open borders
Guns:  Make em all legal.

Foreign Policy:
Interventionist wars:  Never.
Foreign Aid:  Rarely, and only for humanitarian purposes.
Diplomatic ties to hostile regimes:  Limited to negotiations and discussions.
Sanctions:  Only in extreme circumstances
Nuclear capabilities:  Limit proliferation as much as possible.

Our responsibilities to the UN and international law:  None.

Environment:
Climate Change:  It's happening, but it's inevitable and can't be stopped.
Fracking:  Need more of it.
EPA and related regulation:  There's too much now, and it's enforced too little and unfairly.
Carbon tax:  Nope.
Fossil fuel subsidies:  Nope.
Solar subsidies:  Nope.
Wind power:  LOL

General:
Preferred economic model:  None.
The role of corporations:  To increase capital availability.
Education:  Encourage and foster, but no free ride for everyone.
Jobs:  Steve is dead.

Biggest problem facing USA (or your nation if not US):  The rising trend of entitlement among the population.





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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: Enlil]
    #23742728 - 10/16/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 3 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:

Social:
Gay rights/marriage:  Full equality
BLM/institutionalized racism:  A little polemical, but I'm against racism in all forms
Abortion:  For a woman's right to choose

Justice:
Legalize all drugs/just weed: The only way to eliminate the drug-trafficking and criminal empire -- and criminalization -- is to legalize and regulate everything
Death penalty:  Strongly oppose
Private prisons:  Against, bad idea; private companies like to save on costs, which could be a danger to the prisoners and the public
The bail system: Antiquated
Stop and frisk:  Proven not to work
Stingray use/4th amendment concerns:  Neutral. Privacy is a dying breed, results are inevitable
Public police oversight:  Definitely should have total transparency
Police militarization:  Unnecessary and undesirable

Economics:
Progressive tax system: For, necessary
Raise taxes on rich?:  Definitely
Corporate tax rate and deductions:  Close loopholes, leave rates same
Trade deals, tariffs:  No good, but globalism can't be stopped
Unionized labor:  Unions should have full rights to operate
Estate tax:  Don't have strong feelings
VAT tax:  If we could couple this with major tax policy reform, I might be for it
Social security:  Necessary, should be expanded
The role of the Federal Reserve:  Seems to be about what it has to be
Gold backed currency:  Doesn't seem plausible or particularly desirable

Legislative Agenda:
Amendment to overturn citizens united:  Absolutely, corruption shouldn't be protected as free speech!
New Glass Steagal:  Absolutely for, should never have been repealed
Healthcare:  Single payer option
Guantanamo Bay:  Probably time to close
Illegal Immigration:  Enforce the law, pathway for those who are here
Guns:  Prohibition of guns would never work

Foreign Policy:
Interventionist wars:  Completely against
Foreign Aid:  For humanitarian reasons, yes
Diplomatic ties to hostile regimes:  Must end
Sanctions:  Rarely; they usually end up hurting those we should want to help
Nuclear capabilities:  For total disarmament, but am certain we will not see it
Our responsibilities to the UN and international law:  None, effectively, but I feel we should continue to support the UN

Environment:
Climate Change:  Happening
Fracking:  For, when it is done responsibly; against when it isn't
EPA and related regulation:  For
Carbon tax:  For
Fossil fuel subsidies:  Against
Solar subsidies:  For
Wind power:  Not a significant solution

General:
Preferred economic model:  A more socialized, welfare-oriented regulated-capitalist society.  The European models can teach us, but if we ever did improve our model it would be unique.
The role of corporations:  To enable us to make livings, not to be life itself -- to provide adequate goods and services without controlling everything
Education:  Comprehensive and free
Jobs:  Biggest jobs issue is technology and automation, which will eliminate millions of positions, and which we should begin addressing now
Biggest problem facing USA (or your nation if not US):  45 million of our citizens live below the poverty line, and a full 50% could not come up with $400 cash in an emergency







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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23757655 - 10/21/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

added one under Justice:  civil asset forfeiture.

Social:
Gay rights/marriage:  same rights for all
BLM/institutionalized racism:  racism of all types is real and will always be present to some extent. BLM raises legit points but they should be more selective of the specific people for whom they advocate.  demonstrating when a gun carrying career criminal gets shot dilutes their message when a Walter Scott gets killed.
Abortion:  100% pro-choice

Justice:
Legalize all drugs/just weed:  legalize cannabis, decriminalize the more addictive drugs, and regulate the sale of all drugs.  possession should not be criminal unless above personal use limits
Death penalty:  abolish.  it's not a deterrent and inevitably innocent people get killed.  besides, the nothingness of death has to be better than life in prison
Private prisons:  abolish
The bail system:  unfair.  for the nonviolent accused, use modern surveillance equipment instead
Stop and frisk:  hell no
Stingray use/4th amendment concerns:  unconstitutional
Public police oversight:  absolutely necessary.  mandatory body cams that are auto-on when the officer leaves his vehicle with footage stored for a period of not less than two years
Police militarization:  dumb and serves to widen the gap between police and communities
Civil asset forfeiture:  must be reformed.  too many instances of overreach and often not being used for the original intended purpose: to seize the assets of kingpins

Economics:
Progressive tax system:  necessary
Raise taxes on rich?:  necessary
Corporate tax rate and deductions:  lower the rate somewhat, close loopholes, & increase capital gains tax
Trade deals, tariffs:  globalism seems inevitable.  from what i've read tariffs don't work and trade deals seem to limit options.
Unionized labor:  sure but i also support the right of an employer to fire employees
Estate tax:  yes, definitely, and make it progressive.  tax at 30% above $1,000,000, 50% from 4-10 million, and 60% above 10 million. or something
VAT tax:  seems regressive but i'm too ignorant of it to hold a strong opinion
Social security:  yes and eliminate the income cap
The role of the Federal Reserve:  necessary
Gold backed currency:  not a chance

Legislative Agenda:
Amendment to overturn citizens united:  yes
New Glass Steagal: yes
Healthcare:  single payer
Guantanamo Bay:  close it
Illegal Immigration:  limited amnesty/path to citizenship.  heavy enforcement at the employer level
Guns:  close the gunshow loophole (can't believe this is still a thing in 2016)/universal background checks and incorporate a mental health aspect into such checks (difficult, i know).  no legal ownership for those on the no fly and terrorist watch lists but develop a system to petition the gov when someone thinks they're mistakenly on said lists (to limit/check arbitrary usage of watch and no fly lists).  signed, a proud firearm owner

Foreign Policy:
Interventionist wars:  not a fan
Foreign Aid:  humanitarian first, war materials as a last resort and very limited
Diplomatic ties to hostile regimes:  we need to talk to everyone who is willing.  even if they're being disingenuous, intelligence can still be gleaned
Sanctions:  usually punish the low people on the totem pole, but necessary in very select circumstances
Nuclear capabilities:  stop proliferation
Our responsibilities to the UN and international law: support the UN and adhere to international law.  i do believe that other countries should contribute to our thankless Globocop role, though

Environment:
Climate Change:  it's happening and any mitigation that we can effect is probably limited, but we need to try.
Fracking:  sure, as long as the fracking co has insurance that covers poisoning of groundwater and man-caused earthquakes.  IOW: they need to be more careful about wastewater injection wells and just telling them to be careful won't ever work.  make it hurt their bottom line if they're irresponsible
EPA and related regulation:  first more enforcement and second more regulation.  i couldn't feel more strongly about this subject.  hang chronic litterers in the town square
Carbon tax:  for
Fossil fuel subsidies:  lolzhellno
Solar subsidies:  yes, but learn from past mistakes...more stringent vetting and oversight
Wind power:  and wave power

General:
Preferred economic model:  socialism-lite with highly regulated capitalism
The role of corporations:  should not be in politics, but they're entrenched now.  fucking hell.
Education:  is a long game.  invest in education now for innovation and improvement of quality of life later.  that said, many people should be funneled into trade schools rather than universities
Jobs:  reallocation of some of our budget should be done for investing in infrastructure and renewable energies. that will solve some of the job issue while offsetting some of the losses due to automation
Biggest problem facing USA (or your nation if not US):  we have several biggies:  too much money in politics; income inequality; poverty; climate change; rampant consumerism/keeping up with the Jones's are just a few






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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: relic]
    #23757804 - 10/21/16 11:46 AM (7 years, 3 months ago)

Good addition :thumbup:

Civil asset forfeiture is total bs. Right up there with bail.

"Oh you got arrested for having a suspicious amount of money in your car? Well, we're taking that, even though youre innocent. Also, good luck getting out of jail before you trial in 6 weeks, since we just took all your money."

Its a racket.


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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23899770 - 12/06/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Bump for pretty much the only user in this sub who hasnt responded.


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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23899841 - 12/06/16 12:44 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Has even one conservative responded yet?  :shrug:


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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #23899878 - 12/06/16 01:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

doesnt appear so


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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23900270 - 12/06/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

The single mom welfare state grinds me gears. I am not suggesting an authoritarian state. I am just suggesting my/our tax dollars should not be allocated to cleanup the mess of utter stupidity. Also, the unjust family court systems need to be handled accordingly. This nonsense is beyond extreme insanity.


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Re: The Official "Here's Where i Stand On The Issues" Thread [Re: finalexplosion]
    #23914423 - 12/10/16 08:07 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)



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