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OfflineLearyfan
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The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues
    #2173645 - 12/12/03 10:18 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Two parties control our country, the Republicans and Democrats(as far as we know). Both of these parties have an interest in making the drug war seem like a non-issue. It's worked very well.

What it is is one of the biggest, if not, THE biggest issue in politics. They're imprisoning and harrassing a whole group of people, a whole culture. Imagine if they threw all black people in prison simply for being in possession of black skin. Imagine the outrage that would cause. Here, you have a group of people who aren't nessesarily connected by skin color or religion or anything the public mind can grab onto.

Would you vote for a politician who supported locking up non-violent homosexual Americans? Then why do you vote for politicians who support locking up drug using Americans?




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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Learyfan]
    #2173667 - 12/12/03 10:34 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup:

The war against drug users is a just war.  As a socialist I am sure we have to do what is best for society and not for the individual.  Drugs kill people, decrease productivity, and ruin many people's lives.

All drugs should be illegal from the socialist's point of view.

And yes, I would vote for a politician who locked up gays.  They caused AIDS from the gerbils they put up their butts.


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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: ]
    #2173697 - 12/12/03 11:04 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Hee hee hee.

Can't argue with that.

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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Learyfan]
    #2173728 - 12/12/03 11:21 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, in a sense, certain drugs (psychedelics, mood relaxors(pot)) are a helpful part of life for some people. Its the way they live. Similar to religious practices.

The thing that really gets me though is how my music is threatened by the government just because people enjoy to listen to it while they're on "drugs."


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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: ]
    #2173738 - 12/12/03 11:25 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

your joking, right. please tell me your joking


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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Dreamer987]
    #2173751 - 12/12/03 11:33 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, he's joking. You see the thumbs up sign(in reference to my post) and then he makes statements which are in direct contrast with mine(which he gave the thumbs up sign to), so that's how you know.

Bet you $5 (not really though)




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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Learyfan]
    #2173769 - 12/12/03 11:49 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

He's only joking if he's not a socialist. His position is consistent with socialist philosophy, therefore if he is in fact a socialist he is not joking.

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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Phred]
    #2173791 - 12/13/03 12:16 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

A man named "Mr. Mushrooms" can't believe that all drugs should be illegal. And he made the gerbil statement, which was definitely a joke but was written as if it was in the same tone of voice as the rest of the statement.

I guess we'll never know.




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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Phred]
    #2173817 - 12/13/03 12:33 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

pinksharkmark said:
He's only joking if he's not a socialist. His position is consistent with socialist philosophy, therefore if he is in fact a socialist he is not joking.

pinky



Explain how his position is consistent with socialist philosophy.


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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Phred]
    #2173819 - 12/13/03 12:34 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Cool,you can lump all socialists into a neat little pile if you want,but then all you neo cons are greedy bastards who would slit their own mother's throat for a dollar (never mind,selling your mother into slavery would be more profititable).

It's funny how the more socialist countries tend to have the most liberal drug policies.


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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: monoamine]
    #2173858 - 12/13/03 12:59 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)


Quote:

It's funny how the more socialist countries tend to have the most liberal drug policies



maybe thats because countries that decriminalize drugs tend to quickly become a haven for migratory socialist hippies?


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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Learyfan]
    #2173919 - 12/13/03 01:37 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I would say that getting the special intrest and corp money out of politics and re-instilling honesty back into the system is more important. Given those I think that realistic drug policy would follow. The drug policy in the US is a symtom not a cause IMO. Fix the cause and the symtom will disapear.


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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: monoamine]
    #2173940 - 12/13/03 01:48 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

monoamine writes:

Cool,you can lump all socialists into a neat little pile if you want...

I said Mr Mushrooms argument was consistent with socialist philosophy. It is.

I didn't lump all socialists into any pile. Many people who consider themselves socialists have never thought through the philosophical implications of socialism.

but then all you neo cons are greedy bastards who would slit their own mother's throat for a dollar (never mind,selling your mother into slavery would be more profititable).

I strongly suggest you read the forum rules at the top of the first page, and remember that enimatpyrt was recently banned for violating these rules. It pains me to have to rebuke a fellow moderator.

a) I am not a neo-con
b) I have repeatedly stated here my contention that the prime rule of human interaction is the forbidding of the initiation of force. Therefore to claim I would slit my mother's throat is an outright flame. Apologize please.
c) I have repeatedly stated here my contention that the prime rule of human interaction is the forbidding of the initiation of force. Therefore to claim I would sell my mother into slavery is an outright flame. Apologize please.

Hysteria has no place in reasoned debate. Your comments demean you.

It's funny how the more socialist countries tend to have the most liberal drug policies.

Like the ex-USSR? Red China? Cuba? Sweden?

Do some research and get back to us. You'll be particularly surprised at just how un-liberal Sweden's drug policy is.

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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #2173944 - 12/13/03 01:51 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I agree with you wholeheartedly.




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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: silversoul7]
    #2173945 - 12/13/03 01:52 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

silversoul7 writes:

Explain how his position is consistent with socialist philosophy.

I suspect Mr Mushrooms will be back to expand. I wouldn't want to spoil his fun. If he hasn't done so in a day or two, bump this thread and I'll give it a go.

You might want to re-examine his original statements, though, and examine the implications.

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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Learyfan]
    #2173950 - 12/13/03 01:56 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Learyfan I agree 100% with you on this!!! Good points man!

Anyone wanna take a guess, how long will the War on Drugs last? Or is having legalization/decrim like some fairy-tale to Americans, like Santa Claus? The WOD has ended, is ending, or has not even existed in alot of the world. It's impossible for the Americans to win this one.


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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Phred]
    #2173954 - 12/13/03 01:59 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Better yet, why not start a new thread?





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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: pattern]
    #2173960 - 12/13/03 02:04 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

pattern writes:

he WOD has ended, is ending, or has not even existed in alot of the world.

A lot of the world? What is your definition of a "lot" of the world? By number of countries? By population? By area of landmass?

Even if by WOD you refer strictly to marijuana, I would like to see you list a lot of countries meeting any of those three criteria.

When you refer to the WOD, though, you refer to all illicit drugs. In this case, I would like to see you list even ONE such country.

Before you get all huffy, realize that I too am in favor of legalizing all drugs. I just want you to back up your bogus assertion.

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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: pattern]
    #2173961 - 12/13/03 02:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks.

It's hard to guess how long it will last. Something incredible will have to happen for the WOD to go away.

It's a lucritive business. The product is, making you believe your little Suzy will be safer because of the DEA agents kicking down doors.




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Re: The War On Drugs is one of the BIGGEST issues [Re: Learyfan]
    #2173962 - 12/13/03 02:06 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Mr Mushrooms is of course free to do that if he so chooses.

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