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Whats the general consensus on Trump here? * 1
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So I usually save my political rants for newspaper article comment sections, but I'm back into the Shroomery and I'm wondering just how many Trump supporters peruse this place. Glancing through the posts, it's a bit hard to tell.

For the record, I hate HRC. I think she's shady as shit, but I also feel that Weird Al is more qualified to be president than Donald Trump. I'm not trying to start a fight, just curious...

...Be gentle ::cringes::

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: Indigo-Child]
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Indigo-Child said:
So I usually save my political rants for newspaper article comment sections, but I'm back into the Shroomery and I'm wondering just how many Trump supporters peruse this place. Glancing through the posts, it's a bit hard to tell.

For the record, I hate HRC. I think she's shady as shit, but I also feel that Weird Al is more qualified to be president than Donald Trump. I'm not trying to start a fight, just curious...

...Be gentle ::cringes::


Corporations has been running this country for years. But they aren't qualify. All of these big corporations and some of their major investors get together and see how they all can work together in creating jobs for people in certain areas and and at the same time in how they can profit from it. People nicknamed this group the Bilderbergs. They are the ones that chooses to be running the countries. Monsanto is a member of the group. But Trump is not playing ball with them; and that is why they doesn't want him. Because he doesn't listen, but do things his way.



 



Bilderberg Chooses Hillary Clinton for 2016? http://www.globalresearch.ca/bilderberg-chooses-hillary-clinton-for-2016/5454829

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: Douglas Howard]
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His own Party can't stand him. He has some good ideas, and some crazy ideas like using tactical nukes in Europe. I would hit Isis with everything and try to pretty much eliminate them (collateral casualties, sorry you were in the wrong place at the wrong time), but if we use tactical nukes in Europe we will be in wwIII  with Russia. Who thinks this is a good idea?


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
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Trump wants to build wall along our border with Mexico , deport 11 million people , ban people based on their religious views ,  rebuild the military .....
I thought conservatives were all about reducing the size of government , limited government and blah blah less government . Just about everything trump wants to do will expand govt . Where did all the small government conservatives go?


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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: psilynut]
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Perhaps small government conservatives realize that there are things government needs to do. Large or small.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: luvdemshrooms] * 2
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More small things or large things are still both the opposite of less govt .


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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: psilynut]
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psilynut said:
Trump wants to build wall along our border with Mexico , deport 11 million people , ban people based on their religious views ,  rebuild the military .....
I thought conservatives were all about reducing the size of government , limited government and blah blah less government . Just about everything trump wants to do will expand govt . Where did all the small government conservatives go?


Maintaining borders, national security and national sovereignty isn't big government, also enforcing existing immigration laws isn't big government.

Do you know what's big government?  Paying hundreds of billions of dollars for illegals living in the US every year.

Isn't paying for welfare, food stamps, public housing, health care, education, and criminal justice for illegals big government?  Yes it is.

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: psilynut]
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psilynut said:
More small things or large things are still both the opposite of less govt .


Doesn't matter.  Many are clever enough to realize that there are things government needs to do. Large or small.

One can recognize that even if they believe in smaller government.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Have you seen the party's platforms?  One party wants to decriminalize marijuana, one party wants to ban porn and pray the gay away .... Which one are you voting for ?


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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: psilynut]
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psilynut said:
Have you seen the party's platforms?  One party wants to decriminalize marijuana, one party wants to ban porn and pray the gay away .... Which one are you voting for ?


Both parties suck, Trump isn't even a real Republican which is the best thing about his platform.

Republicans aren't conservative, they are bought and paid for political whores.

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: psilynut]
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psilynut said:
Have you seen the party's platforms?  One party wants to decriminalize marijuana, one party wants to ban porn and pray the gay away .... Which one are you voting for ?


Most likely neither. Porn and pot don't weigh very heavily into my decision. I'm leaning heavily to doing what I did in the Obama-McCain election... writing myself in.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: qman] * 1
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qman said:
Isn't paying for welfare, food stamps, public housing, and health care for illegals big government?  Yes it is.


Who's proposing to do that?


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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
qman said:
Isn't paying for welfare, food stamps, public housing, and health care for illegals big government?  Yes it is.


Who's proposing to do that?


It's already happening so there's nothing to propose.

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: qman]
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I guess it depends where you live. They aren't doing any of those things in Illinois.
We have a new governor who was supposed to right the financial ship. However the Dem Speaker of the House is about 4 times more powerful than him,  can override vetoes, etc.


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I don't want no commies in my car. No Christians either.

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
I guess it depends where you live.


It seems so.

Illegal Immigrants Get Over $1,200 More In Welfare Benefits Than American Families A Year


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: Brian Jones]
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Brian Jones said:
I guess it depends where you live. They aren't doing any of those things in Illinois.
We have a new governor who was supposed to right the financial ship. However the Dem Speaker of the House is about 4 times more powerful than him,  can override vetoes, etc.


Illegals and their children get everything they need, it doesn't matter where they live. They get free housing, food, health care, education, ect.

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: qman] * 2
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qman said:
Brian Jones said:
I guess it depends where you live. They aren't doing any of those things in Illinois.
We have a new governor who was supposed to right the financial ship. However the Dem Speaker of the House is about 4 times more powerful than him,  can override vetoes, etc.


Illegals and their children get everything they need, it doesn't matter where they live. They get free housing, food, health care, education, ect.


You are wrong.  ACA health coverage is not available to non-US citizens.  Food stamps are not available to illegal aliens, only certain qualified legal aliens.  Housing Section 8 and student aid is available to only U.S. citizens and certain legal permanent residents.

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: fivepointer]
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fivepointer said:
You are wrong.  ACA health coverage is not available to non-US citizens.  Food stamps are not available to illegal aliens, only certain qualified legal aliens.  Housing Section 8 and student aid is available to only U.S. citizens and certain legal permanent residents.


And yet...

Illegal Immigrants Get Over $1,200 More In Welfare Benefits Than American Families A Year


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: fivepointer]
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fivepointer said:
qman said:
Brian Jones said:
I guess it depends where you live. They aren't doing any of those things in Illinois.
We have a new governor who was supposed to right the financial ship. However the Dem Speaker of the House is about 4 times more powerful than him,  can override vetoes, etc.


Illegals and their children get everything they need, it doesn't matter where they live. They get free housing, food, health care, education, ect.


You are wrong.  ACA health coverage is not available to non-US citizens.  Food stamps are not available to illegal aliens, only certain qualified legal aliens.  Housing Section 8 and student aid is available to only U.S. citizens and certain legal permanent residents.


"You are wrong"

No, I specifically stated illegals and their children. They know the game, get pregnant and give birth in the US and then the holy grail of freebies comes in full force.

Illegals also get free health care, illegals also get free education, it doesn't matter.

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Re: Whats the general consensus on Trump here? [Re: qman]
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qman said:
psilynut said:
Have you seen the party's platforms?  One party wants to decriminalize marijuana, one party wants to ban porn and pray the gay away .... Which one are you voting for ?


Both parties suck, Trump isn't even a real Republican which is the best thing about his platform.

Republicans aren't conservative, they are bought and paid for political whores.




I Am Voting With My Vagina: Hillary Clinton For President  http://www.damemagazine.com/2015/04/14/i-am-voting-my-vagina-hillary-clinton-president

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