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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Asante] * 3
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When I was 18 I took my boyfriend to his prom. We danced.

Some guys walked by and yelled "Fags!" At us.

It wasn't fun but I brushed it off.

The bigger problem is that those guys could have waited outside and jumped us. Or in the States, very plausibly could have shot us.

This does hit a little close to home, not only because me and my wife are both bisexual , and because some of my best friends are gay and bi (yes really) , but also because me and my whole group of friends regularly go dancing at our cities local gay bar. It's our favorite place and I absolutely adore the community there . Lots of my happiest memories have been there.

It's truly sickening to think that a group of people enjoying just such a night had their lives shattered by vile evil.

I also agree it's a lesser tragedy that the shroomery is such a cold hard mean hateful place.

My own experience of the shroomery has been sheer unremitting hostility  (not because of my bisexuality at all) and I think that's probably a pretty common experience.

I think for what it's worth we really should make a collective impact to be kinder and more groovy.

I will.

:namaste:

:hug: and :heart: to Asante and all



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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: yogabunny] * 2
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Edited by PLURAL (06/14/16 12:02 PM)

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Pastywhyte]
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Pastywhyte said:
CosmicJoke said:
It's not just the shooting, it's the fucking Pub, you're only listening to half the message.


I would go so far as to say it's even more than just the pub as well. To some extent we are all guilty. Those with integrity will accept responsibility and attempt to improve. At least I will.


Agreed! :thumbup:

We are all guilty, I admit, when the flaming and trolling starts, I strike back also, no one likes to have their views belittled and it's hard not to retaliate


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
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Thanks Asante for the heartfelt OP. I agree with others that The Pub and some other forums have become filled with unnecessary vitriol. So many attacks on peoples character, trivial dissections of posts pointing out nothing but spelling or grammar errors with zero content but to insult someone.Or to google some subject and come up with a quasi fact to prove your opinion, while dividing the content of the original intent into sub-categories that can be further picked apart.

Many people here seem to get off on doing these things rather than adding constructive banter. It just seems that there is a huge emphasis placed on being "right" when there are no real right answers...just opinions that can be discussed without having to resort to petty bickering and one upmanship. It is good that some of the more tenured members are coming back and commenting here....we need them.


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Asante] * 1
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Asante said:
A Gay Bar is supposed to be a safe place



no, it's supposed to be a place where people can meet and the owners and employees can meet



Quote:
Sophistic Radiance is GLBT, she is a trans woman. Shes one of the united minority who was attacked in this attack.



it was latino night, sure there were some gays but the doors were open to
everyone, yes, straight people go to gay bars too, this isnt about gays,
GLBT lives, it's about an act of terrorism committed against many people
that live many lifestyles. it was an attack by a muslim on americans and
others within the US

now if you choose to see it as an attack on gays, that's fine but at that
point how can you deny that this was anything more than the epitome of
islam's tenets when the penalty for homosexuality is death in the islamic
world and in their beliefs, killing you is doing you a favor


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Thayendanegea] * 2
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If they aren't going to dump the whole forum like they should then, IMO, they need to ban all political discussion from this shithole of a forum if they want it to stay remotely civil.

They also need to mod Vinsue and permaban koods & karode13. You guys can't even begin to fathom how unshroomy those two really are.


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: PLURAL] * 1
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Just saying but what do you think of this?

Muslim countries by population

Countries where the majority oppose gays (red=oppose)

LGBT right laws map with dark red as the death penalty

Edited by TioWWW999 (06/14/16 12:14 PM)

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: TioWWW999]
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

From Seddique Mateen (father of shooter)- "God will punish those involved in homosexuality, this is not for the servants."

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: qman]
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qman said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

From Seddique Mateen (father of shooter)- "God will punish those involved in homosexuality, this is not for the servants."



""Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." - the Christian Lt. Governor of Texas' response to the Orlando shooting.

The fact is, in the United States, Christians are the biggest problem for gay people, not Muslims.

Here's some Christians walking through Target preaching against gay and transgendered people.




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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (06/14/16 12:22 PM)

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: koods]
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koods said:
qman said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

From Seddique Mateen (father of shooter)- "God will punish those involved in homosexuality, this is not for the servants."



""Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." - the Christian Lt. Governor of Texas' response to the Orlando shooting.

The fact is, in the United States, Christians are the biggest problem for gay people, not Muslims.


Yes, the biggest problem for them is people expecting them to use the right bathroom, not crazy homocidal maniacs who go into clubs and kill them:rolleyes:


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Psychonautica said:
We've seen atrocities in the past, and even larger atrocities.

No sticky.


And the reason for this, as you seem to be almost willfully ignoring, is the fact that Asante chose to bring this up in order to highlight the fact that the community of the Shroomery seems to be gravitating towards animosity, disrespect, judgementalism and sometimes all out hate for certain members. The analogy between the few that do so IRL and the few that do so here holds true.

Yet you latch onto the only thing you can and argue until you're blue in the face. Have you not noticed the half dozen posts in this thread from people who have noticed this and are generally upset with the way the culture here is headed?

You seem insistent on being part of the problem and do nothing, that I have ever seen, to be part of the solution. Are you really so surprised that you're under scrutiny and are being warned?

By all means, carry on as you are, but you're only shooting yourself in the foot, and will have privileges removed and eventually yourself removed. Is that what you want? Would it really kill you to show some compassion and kindness for a change?


Sounds like the mods want the boards to be all rainbows and unicorns. No debate or disagreement.

They will say they want debate and discussion but you better hope you're not disagreeing with a mod or you'll have your privileges removed and get banned eventually.


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
qman said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

From Seddique Mateen (father of shooter)- "God will punish those involved in homosexuality, this is not for the servants."



""Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." - the Christian Lt. Governor of Texas' response to the Orlando shooting.

The fact is, in the United States, Christians are the biggest problem for gay people, not Muslims.


I thought gay marriaea is legal in America while at the same time they're throwing homosexual off buildings in saudi arabia as a legal punishment by their law? sorry but wut?

Edited by TioWWW999 (06/14/16 12:24 PM)

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: koods]
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I think we should go back to segregation. Not just by race but by belief.

Edit: basically put everyone in time out for a bit.


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Ban lotto

Edited by spirit_shadow (06/14/16 12:24 PM)

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
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hostileuniverse said:
koods said:
qman said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

From Seddique Mateen (father of shooter)- "God will punish those involved in homosexuality, this is not for the servants."



""Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." - the Christian Lt. Governor of Texas' response to the Orlando shooting.

The fact is, in the United States, Christians are the biggest problem for gay people, not Muslims.


Yes, the biggest problem for them is people expecting them to use the right bathroom, not crazy homocidal maniacs who go into clubs and kill them:rolleyes:


No offense  but I don't think you have a clue what kind of hell gay people are put through in this country by their Christian parents ALL THE FUCKING TIME.


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: hostileuniverse]
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You're in the shitpub, what do you expect?


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: TioWWW999]
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TioWWW999 said:
koods said:
qman said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

From Seddique Mateen (father of shooter)- "God will punish those involved in homosexuality, this is not for the servants."



""Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." - the Christian Lt. Governor of Texas' response to the Orlando shooting.

The fact is, in the United States, Christians are the biggest problem for gay people, not Muslims.


I thought gay marriaea is legal in America while at the same time they're throwing homosexual off buildings in saudi arabia? sorry but wut?


I said the biggest problem IN THE UNITED STATES for gays are Christians. Why are you bringing up Saudi Arabia. That's not the United States.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: koods]
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koods said:
qman said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

From Seddique Mateen (father of shooter)- "God will punish those involved in homosexuality, this is not for the servants."



""Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." - the Christian Lt. Governor of Texas' response to the Orlando shooting.

The fact is, in the United States, Christians are the biggest problem for gay people, not Muslims.


Since Muslims only make up 1% of the US population, you are correct.

I can't believe the father would makes those types of comments after this tragedy, unreal.

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Asante said:
A Gay Bar is supposed to be a safe place



no, it's supposed to be a place where people can meet 


:facepalm:

It's supposed to be a safe place where people can meet .

That's like if someone says a school is supposed to be a safe place and you say

"No, a school is supposed to be a place where children learn."

As If it shouldn't be both. In addition to their primary functions, public places are indeed supposed to be safe.

Restaurants are supposed to be places where you can eat. Obviously they are also supposed to be places where you won't get your head cut off .

And yes you are absolutely right - many non gay people frequent gay bars.

No doubt many of the victims in Orlando were straight .

In any given night my social group goes dancing at the gay club , If you shot us all you would be killing one gay person , three bisexual people and like seven straight people .

But that doesn't change the fact the attack was obviously motivated by hatred for a particular minority.


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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: qman]
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I can't believe a US politician would make the same comments either

Actually. If you think about the two statements, the father was condemning gays and his son, saying it wasn't his role to kill gay people. The Lt. Governor straight up said that the gays got what they deserved,


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (06/14/16 12:30 PM)

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Re: The Orlando Gay Bar Massacre and the Shroomery Pub -- Real Talk [Re: koods]
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koods said:
TioWWW999 said:
koods said:
qman said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

From Seddique Mateen (father of shooter)- "God will punish those involved in homosexuality, this is not for the servants."



""Do not be deceived. God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows." - the Christian Lt. Governor of Texas' response to the Orlando shooting.

The fact is, in the United States, Christians are the biggest problem for gay people, not Muslims.


I thought gay marriaea is legal in America while at the same time they're throwing homosexual off buildings in saudi arabia? sorry but wut?


I said the biggest problem IN THE UNITED STATES for gays are Christians. Why are you bringing up Saudi Arabia. That's not the United States.


But it doesn't get a rid of the fact the USA a christianity country legalized same sex marriage while some Muslim countries still execute them as a legal punishment. I rather live in a christian USA as a bi or homosexual then in a muslim country where the majority oppose them. Unless you want to defend a ideology trhat wants to kill you and live in one of their country then that's your choice

Edited by TioWWW999 (06/14/16 12:30 PM)

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