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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Mescalean]
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Mescalean said:
it's not like one of the brothers was half retarded and told their informant over and over "i don't want to do this i dont want to hurt anyone" yet the informant still pushed for them to do it.




can I make you do what you dont want to do?

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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
actually, in the US, most terrorist attacks are done by liberals, muslims and latinos are included in them as we've seen with this guy



haha, it never ceases to amaze me how often you bring up this little tidbit--sometimes i regret ever even saying it to you, but why would i hide from the facts?

maybe one day i'll take the time to add some more context to that statement, regarding US domestic terror--but for now i'm just gonna keep watching king of the hill and eating my pasta--i only have a couple more days before this house sitting gig ends and my cartoon binge dries up; and i don't like cold pasta


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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Cowb0yNeal00]
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Cowb0yNeal00 said:



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Re: 50+ people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Hobozen]
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blankk said:




thats pretty profound... and almost exactly correct.. i have friends in china right now, that have better sources of what news is in america than us americans..

crazy shit..


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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club *DELETED* [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Hobozen] * 3
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Muslim countries by population

Countries where the majority oppose gays (red=oppose)

LGBT right laws map with red being the death penalty


Funny they all have one thing in common...

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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: TioWWW999]
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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: falsereality]
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falsereality said:
Thayendanegea said:
I believe the weapon used was an AR-15 along with a side arm. The AR-15 is the civilian equivalent of the M-16 military issue selective fire semi/ fully automatic. The civilian grade is only available in semi-automatic....meaning it will fire as fast as the finger can pull the trigger. It uses a .223 caliber bullet weighing around 50 grains that leaves the muzzle around 2700 fps.
This Vs. the .40 caliber side arm that sends a much heavier bullet at a much slower velocity...usually around 1400 fps.

I'm bringing this up because the shooter was in a very crowded room and the .223 bullet can pass through one or sometimes two victims before stopping as well as ricochet (depending on the type of bullet used...probably fully jacketed.) Also extra 30 round clips are easily interchanged when one becomes empty. This guy sounds like he knew his shit and probably practiced beforehand.



He was a security guard for a private company and most likely received firearms training for his job. While I generally agree with this, if you couple a bumpfire stock with an AR15 it has a rate of fire pretty close to a fully automatic M16.

It's also worth noting that if the shooter "knew his shit" he would've gone with a more damaging round like the 7.63x39.



Well....It's actually a 7.62 and yes it has been a proven field gun but it has a lot more recoil and the clips carry fewer rounds. And, by the way...It didn't appear that there was any problems with the gun being lethal. The 7.62 is a heavier bullet but that "killing advantage" can be overcome with the higher velocity of the .223. Plus the AR-15 is a shit ton more accurate.


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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Thayendanegea] * 1
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Thayendanegea said:
Well....It's actually a 7.62 and yes it has been a proven field gun but it has a lot more recoil and the clips carry fewer rounds.





a 30 round mag is a 30 round mag, both would hold, get this... 30 rounds



a convicted terrorist... if the death penalty were actually used on monsters like
this, do you think this cop would have died, do you think his wife would have been
tortured on a live stream? but it's OK, they're a civilized country

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/14/french-police-officer-wife-murdered-larossi-abballa-isis

and guess what. the killing was done with a knife

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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Prisoner#1]
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the-orlando-shooters-afghan-roots/2016/06/13/d89a8cd0-30e4-11e6-ab9d-1da2b0f24f93_story.html

From Saddique Mateen (father of shooter)-"God himself will punish those involved in homosexuality, this is not for the servants"

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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: qman]
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Well yeah he's a Muslim, of course he believes that.

What should be done about it?

Should charges be brought against the shooters father?

What exactly is the point of posting that?


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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Supachopped719] * 2
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Christians are thinking the same thing right now so what is your point

The only reason christians and republicans are backing this is because they want trump to be president and are afraid to lose their guns

(Im not against guns but i hate republicans and even some democrats)


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- Eckhart Tolle

“Everybody is ‘you’. Everybody is ‘I’. That’s our name. We all share that.”

- Alan Watts

"Cosmic apotheosis wears off quicker than Salvia"

- Rick Sanchez (voice of Justin Roiland)

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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Supachopped719] * 1
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Supachopped719 said:
Well yeah he's a Muslim, of course he believes that.

What should be done about it?

Should charges be brought against the shooters father?

What exactly is the point of posting that?



Ask the Washington Post why they published that information?  Do you NOT like knowing the full story?  Is having one's head in the sand a better alternative?

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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: qman]
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The Washington post did it because it's sensational and they want to sell papers and get web traffic.

I asked you why YOU posted it.

Questioning someone's reasoning for doing something isn't putting your head in the sand.

I honestly don't think the shooter's father of the rest of his family should get any media attention. They are irrelevant. They did not commit a crime, at least not that we know of.


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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Supachopped719]
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Supachopped719 said:
The Washington post did it because it's sensational and they want to sell papers and get web traffic.

I asked you why YOU posted it.

Questioning someone's reasoning for doing something isn't putting your head in the sand.

I honestly don't think the shooter's father of the rest of his family should get any media attention. They are irrelevant. They did not commit a crime, at least not that we know of.



"They are irrelevant"

Really, because Omar operated in a vacuum, no he didn't.  It's nice to know his father's viewpoint after his son committed a terrorist act against innocent people.

"They did not commit a crime"

Maybe that's true, but did they commit any moral crimes?  Those questions should be asked.

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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Thayendanegea]
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Thayendanegea said:
falsereality said:
Thayendanegea said:
I believe the weapon used was an AR-15 along with a side arm. The AR-15 is the civilian equivalent of the M-16 military issue selective fire semi/ fully automatic. The civilian grade is only available in semi-automatic....meaning it will fire as fast as the finger can pull the trigger. It uses a .223 caliber bullet weighing around 50 grains that leaves the muzzle around 2700 fps.
This Vs. the .40 caliber side arm that sends a much heavier bullet at a much slower velocity...usually around 1400 fps.

I'm bringing this up because the shooter was in a very crowded room and the .223 bullet can pass through one or sometimes two victims before stopping as well as ricochet (depending on the type of bullet used...probably fully jacketed.) Also extra 30 round clips are easily interchanged when one becomes empty. This guy sounds like he knew his shit and probably practiced beforehand.



He was a security guard for a private company and most likely received firearms training for his job. While I generally agree with this, if you couple a bumpfire stock with an AR15 it has a rate of fire pretty close to a fully automatic M16.

It's also worth noting that if the shooter "knew his shit" he would've gone with a more damaging round like the 7.63x39.



Well....It's actually a 7.62 and yes it has been a proven field gun but it has a lot more recoil and the clips carry fewer rounds. And, by the way...It didn't appear that there was any problems with the gun being lethal. The 7.62 is a heavier bullet but that "killing advantage" can be overcome with the higher velocity of the .223. Plus the AR-15 is a shit ton more accurate.




AR-15 is not a "shit ton" more accurate and it doesn't have a lot less recoil.

My AK hits all the same targets that my AR hits and I can go back n forth between the 2 and the recoil difference is minimal.


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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: qman]
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We will have to agree to disagree about the shooter family then.

In my opinion, the shooter was an adult with children, he bears the full responsibility for his actions. Regardless of his upbringing or his father's beliefs, his action are wholly his own. He was a psychopath.

I don't think parents should be asked to be held responsible for the actions of their adult children.

When the shooter is a teenager like a lot of the school shootings, then the parents need to be put front and center and be made to answer for their shitty parenting.


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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: Supachopped719]
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Supachopped719 said:
We will have to agree to disagree about the shooter family then.

In my opinion, the shooter was an adult with children, he bears the full responsibility for his actions. Regardless of his upbringing or his father's beliefs, his action are wholly his own. He was a psychopath.

I don't think parents should be asked to be held responsible for the actions of their adult children.

When the shooter is a teenager like a lot of the school shootings, then the parents need to be put front and center and be made to answer for their shitty parenting.



Hold on, who said the parents should be held responsible for the actions of their adult children?  NO ONE.

I think it's very important for people to know how a moderate Muslim father in the US feels about homosexuals AFTER THEIR SON MURDERED 50 HOMOSEXUALS for NO REASON.

So the next time someone says, "it was just a crazy person committing some random act of violence", a person might think twice about what they heard.

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Re: 20 people dead in Terrorist attack in Orlando, shot at night club [Re: qman]
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Well the moderate didn't go out and shoot anyone, the crazy person did.


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