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Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else...
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This is related to: "Random dude almost OD'ed on my drugs"

I have a dilemma sometimes. I have a good quality drug, and have had it tested. I have good scales, and a safe house. Now I have a friend who wants to use the type of drug that I have. He's not some random dude, but a dear friend that I care for. As I see it, I can do two things.

1) Either I give him of my stash and let him use my place, I know for sure that he gets goods stuff, or at least as good as I would take myself, and that he's in a proper environment. But if something goes wrong then I'm partly responsible. It could have some nasty consequences.

2) Or I let him get it somewhere else, take it somewhere else, and possibly without testing it first. Now if something goes wrong, although I am not really responsible, I still feel responsible because I could have taken better care of him. This appears to be safer if I only think of myself, but does not necessarily make me feel much better.

I assume some of you must have had the same dilemma, right?

What would you do?


Love, Hanz.

Ps: For example, the teen kids of my relatives as they come of age. Which is now.


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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Hanz] * 2
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Don't give drugs to teenagers

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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Lophosaurus]
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If he's absolutely adamant about it then atleast you can give him a good experience without worrying. My nephew is getting older so this is something I've thought about and if he pressed the issue I'd give him an experience. Atleast I know what I have.

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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: larry.fisherman]
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You would have to play it through the parents for sure. I see your point and the reasoning is sound, but other peoples kids are off-limits. The gains are def not worth the potential drama.

Even if it all works out great and they have a good time, you will always be the one who gave the first drugs to their kids.


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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Hanz]
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Hanz said:
This is related to: "Random dude almost OD'ed on my drugs"

I have a dilemma sometimes. I have a good quality drug, and have had it tested. I have good scales, and a safe house. Now I have a friend who wants to use the type of drug that I have. He's not some random dude, but a dear friend that I care for. As I see it, I can do two things.

1) Either I give him of my stash and let him use my place, I know for sure that he gets goods stuff, or at least as good as I would take myself, and that he's in a proper environment. But if something goes wrong then I'm partly responsible. It could have some nasty consequences.

2) Or I let him get it somewhere else, take it somewhere else, and possibly without testing it first. Now if something goes wrong, although I am not really responsible, I still feel responsible because I could have taken better care of him. This appears to be safer if I only think of myself, but does not necessarily make me feel much better.

I assume some of you must have had the same dilemma, right?

What would you do?


Love, Hanz.

Ps: For example, the teen kids of my relatives as they come of age. Which is now.


i was gonna say, "what the hell, is this your first time ever doing drugs with someone or something?" then I saw u were supplying to buncha lil kids and said HECK NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Sheekle]
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Guys, guys, they're approaching 20, let's not be pristine about it, what were we doing when we were 19 huh, expanding our butterfly collection?

Still, it's a clear choice you seem to make. You would rather have them get their own drugs, from shady dealers, then take them without testing, without knowing about set, setting, or dosage schemes, without knowing about the need for trip sitters. (basically what I did in the late 80s :lol:)

This is a hands off approach, and there is something to be said for it.

But it's not black and white clear that this is the right thing to do, IMO.

I worry about them, and not only young people. There are people who only start to do experimentation with drugs after they graduate or whatever. When I hear about them, and hear that they take untested pills in an overheated disco without drinking enough I worry. They don't do it because they're stupid, they're not, they're simply inexperienced.

I have the experience. And I wonder sometimes, why not share it? For their sake. But when I start to share, I become involved. And that can have consequences.

Anyway, I tend to side with XLCaps on this one. At least I know what I have. And play it through the parents? Yes, I will, certainly.


Thanx for responding :thumbup:

:heart: Hanz.


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Edited by Hanz (05/20/16 08:55 AM)

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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Hanz]
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It's a slippery slope. When I was selling e a good friend of mine literally tried to commit suicide on my drugs. It was fucking terrifying how fucked I could been. I spent a lot of time talking to him after that fool has literally lost his mind.

Total fucking space cadet which is not the person I knew at all. I don't know what the fuck snapped in him but holy shit.


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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Enjoywho]
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It is a slippery slope.

But sometimes I feel that simply by caring about the other person, I am already responsible. If they ask me and I don't share my experience and my drugs with them, they could by themselves end up in all kinds of pitfalls that I could have potentially avoided.

It's hard to just do nothing and watch them as they do it alone... although it is the least personal risk for myself.

Dilemma.


:heart: Hanz.


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Small scale alternative parties rich in empathy and extravagance. Happen to know of one in the vicinity of Amsterdam? PM me my dear fellow. I love to meet some other freaks.

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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Hanz]
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20 is old enough to make your own decisions. but just to be sure i might bring it up with the parents if they were cool with it; i'm assuming they are since they're your friends and he's an adult.

it's also a golden opportunity to show someone the ropes on how to be responsible. i think if you've tested it yourself and know it is what it is, i say go for it.


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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Hanz]
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Option 1 seems fine, as long as you trust this person to not be an idiot who'll blab to everyone about partying with you.

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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Hanz]
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Hanz said:
It is a slippery slope.

But sometimes I feel that simply by caring about the other person, I am already responsible. If they ask me and I don't share my experience and my drugs with them, they could by themselves end up in all kinds of pitfalls that I could have potentially avoided.

It's hard to just do nothing and watch them as they do it alone... although it is the least personal risk for myself.

Dilemma.


:heart: Hanz.


Ya dude was Hella cool. He literally always had a different hot bitch by his side.  I had another good friend hang himself.  We were just playing beer pong the night before. Same shit all the boys wanted to be him all the girls wanted to date him.

Seeing his mom at the funeral was fucking heart breaking. She lost her only child her distraught Ness made me cry.  I know if I ever did that it would literally break her fucking heart.  And I tried before. But after seeing that I could never do that to people that love and care about me.

Even though I've been over this shit for a while. And couldn't give a fuck less whether I live or die.


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

Edited by Enjoywho (05/16/16 04:33 PM)

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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Burke Dennings]
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I think either are fine choices. It is always best to be introduced to drugs by someone experienced. I would atleast talk with them and give them the info they need to be safe when doing it themselves if you are too concerned about a bad outcome. I was introduced to drugs like weed by my brother and it was great. On the other hand i only tried heroin a couple of times because i was curious, but the first time i did it i was alone and did not know any one who had ever used h and i was pretty scared the whole time even though i snorted small amounts untill i got where i wanted to be. I know you are not talking about heroin but trying any new drug alone can be scary


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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: stuckinwonderland]
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Sounds to me like you already know what to do. Is it heroin?


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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Ya the drug in question is what sways one way or another.  I've done my fair share of heroin and meth but I would never introduce someone to them.


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"I don't give nothin' to nobody, I just pay the cost to do business." - Riley "Young Reezy"-Boondocks

"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Burke Dennings said:
Option 1 seems fine, as long as you trust this person to not be an idiot who'll blab to everyone about partying with you.


This is you're real problem just make sure they can keep all goings on 100% confidential


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Slothie
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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Hanz]
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I say if it's GHB and they're good looking, go for it :wink:

:datass:


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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Seriously_trippin]
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Seriously_trippin said:
Burke Dennings said:
Option 1 seems fine, as long as you trust this person to not be an idiot who'll blab to everyone about partying with you.


This is you're real problem just make sure they can keep all goings on 100% confidential


Yes, Burke hit the spot here. I'll have to think about this.

And, no it's not heroin. I guess we are talking about xtc, lsd, or mushrooms. Coke also, but I don't like that myself.

I found a really good place where I can have powders tested in GC/MS for just 2.50 euro. What a blast! It's the availability of stuff likes this that I would want to share most. Have your drugs tested FFS, it's only 2.50 euro. But when you're 19 you handle risks with a different part of the brain. :shrug:

:heart: Hanz.


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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: JvF]
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LoL! That. And with your avatar! :lol:

JvF said:
I say if it's GHB and they're good looking, go for it :wink:

:datass:



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Small scale alternative parties rich in empathy and extravagance. Happen to know of one in the vicinity of Amsterdam? PM me my dear fellow. I love to meet some other freaks.

Oh and, if you can,.. embrace the nyctomorph. It needs you.

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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: Hanz] * 1
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:splooge:


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Re: Dilemma. To share or not to share that drug with someone else... [Re: JvF]
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JvF said:
I say if it's GHB and they're good looking, go for it :wink:

:datass:


I see what you did there.


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"The road to hell is paved with good intentions."

"In the days of kings and queens I was a jester."

"And then the great lord created bears... too many bears... shoulda really dialed back on the bears." Squidbillies

"Can you start speaking words instead of your damn filthy lies!"- Louise "Bobs Burgers"

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