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Invisibleshriek
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Kids on drugs - how to deal with it
    #2574052 - 04/18/04 03:27 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ok, i want to hear some opinions on this, the reason i ask is because i have a good friend who has a 14 years old boy who starts to get more and more into drugs. his parents doesnt do drugs themself and gives the boy a good home. the drugs he has started to take are cannabis, rohypnol and speed. now i was younger myself when i started out so i remember well that age. no matter what my parents said i ignored it. and this is the problem here. so the question is how would you deal with a situtation like that if you were the parent? or maybe someone has some real life experience with this

he came to me for advice since he knows i have long experience and knowledge about drugs but i must say answers were hard to find.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: shriek]
    #2574056 - 04/18/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i woudelnt worry about the canabis too much...but the speed and such can get ahole of the young ones quik.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: shriek]
    #2574062 - 04/18/04 03:33 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

find a copy of an excellent book by weil & rosen:
_from chocolate to morphine_
& have the kid & his parents read it...


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: gnrm23]
    #2574075 - 04/18/04 03:38 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, if anything, restricting the kid to weed would be important. I guess it depends on what the parent's views on drugs are.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: shriek]
    #2574085 - 04/18/04 03:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Thats a very early age to start with something like speed and rypper. I was 17 when I first tried those things, and I feel I have a good controll over thos substances and only really feel like doing them rarely. But at that age it might seem like too cool of a thing to even want to stop with.
The kid has to know how serious rohypnol and speed is. I dont know what else to say, sorry...
Well actually, maybe the kid will listen to you. I dont know about him, but seing as he's 14 and doing drugs he might be interested in listening to someone like you who is older and knows about drugs more than him.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: aje]
    #2574097 - 04/18/04 03:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

actually that is what i wanted to say to him, but didnt because he wouldnt like that idea i think. im thinkin about inviting the boy over to my place and have a talk to him, maybe that would be easier if i talked to him who has knowledge and has been trough amphetamine addiction and the negative tail of crime and shit that follows speed use. but i dont want to try to scare him either but maybe just tell him hard facts wich isnt lies and what his friend or school wouldnt know about drugs.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: shriek]
    #2574099 - 04/18/04 03:45 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i smoked weed when i was 13-14..... just tell him to quit the speed and he'll be fine


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: Infrared]
    #2574165 - 04/18/04 03:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

ya from chocolate to morphine is a great book
it gives strait facts about drugs with a little bit of humor thrown in

just get him of the speed and stuff and he will be fine


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: notapillow]
    #2574173 - 04/18/04 04:00 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

im gonna ask them to check that book out :smile:


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: shriek]
    #2574190 - 04/18/04 04:04 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Huh?! Just get him off the speed and he'll be fine? What about the roofies?! Thats bad shit too.

Shriek, I think you're idea sounds good.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: shriek]
    #2574777 - 04/18/04 08:41 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah just tell him to quit, he'll listen! not

Explain to him the risks of abusing speeds. I dont know much about speeds myself as I never been interested in it. I guess an occasional use is ok.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: Gus]
    #2574789 - 04/18/04 08:47 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I dunno, I've seen so many people get hooked on meth. It's disgusting. Their personality just totally changes over time, they get all bitchy and irritable. Usually end up stealing shit to get more...I'd tell him to avoid it like the plague. Tell him to stick with weed if he absolutely has to do some drug.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: Infrared]
    #2574860 - 04/18/04 09:09 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Weed kinda fucked me up when i was younger...


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: FatVsAsia]
    #2574885 - 04/18/04 09:15 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

FatVsAsia said:
Weed kinda fucked me up when i was younger...




Think what speed and rohypnol would do to a 14 year olds brain. His brain is still developing. I agree with most everyone here . Tell him just to smoke bud but stay away from other drugs for now. He is far to young to be doing other things besides smoking bud.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: FatVsAsia]
    #2574900 - 04/18/04 09:18 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Yah, ideally he should hold off on the drugs for at least a few more years...


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: FatVsAsia]
    #2574906 - 04/18/04 09:20 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

If i ever Caught my kid with weed i would be like yea man its not that big of a deal. If he was drinking i wouldnt give a shit. I would just say dont drive or i will kick his ass. And ill give him a ride or whatever and not give a shit. I probaly would get a 12 pack and chill with him too.


But if i found pretty much anything that isnt weed or alcohol on him i think i would be pissed off pretty bad. Im not sure what i would do but i would do something


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: shriek]
    #2574907 - 04/18/04 09:21 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

I think Erowid is the best tool for promoting responsible drug use. Make sure the kid knows the objective facts about the drugs, from a non-biased source.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: MarioNett]
    #2574922 - 04/18/04 09:26 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

yah, i read that sight all the time. Its a perfect FAQ supplier...


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: shriek]
    #2575452 - 04/18/04 10:49 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

i would try to discourage them from doing any kind of drugs, because really, not much is gained from drugs...but that is an opinion statement only.
but if after like a year or so of trying and the kid is still into it, then let them go for it.
except for...crack, smack, and meth id let my kids try just about anything...and cigarettes they are filthy.


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Re: Kids on drugs - how to deal with it [Re: anoun]
    #2575906 - 04/19/04 12:35 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Meth at 14, eh, the kid's stupid. He'll learn over time though.

There really is nothing that will 100% work, just try to educate the kid abut the physical and mental dangers of speed and try to get him to just smoke pot. Get him off the roofies too, but my bet is speed will be a more immediate problem, especially if he has an addictive personality.

I'd much rather have my kid do pot and mushrooms than alcohol and cigarettes though.


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