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The Frequent LSD Dilemma
    #4055592 - 04/14/05 06:15 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Do you ever find yourself really shying away from frequent LSD use? But then you think back to the 60's and 70's, the golden age, and how often people were dropping, and you wonder why it is you think you can't handle more frequent trips? I wish I felt confident enough to trip more often.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4055644 - 04/14/05 06:27 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

perhaps it is simply the wish to keep the experience "special"

nothing wrong with that.... I love mushrooms but I try to keep my trips few and far between for the same reason


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4055657 - 04/14/05 06:30 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Ill test the product for potential chromosome damage sir. PM.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4055699 - 04/14/05 06:40 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

The stuff is way to powerful for me to be doing it often. 2-4 times a year is plenty.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4056023 - 04/14/05 08:27 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I dunno I can never get enough of it.  I seriously think I could do it every weekend and never get tired of it.

I :heart: LSD.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4056060 - 04/14/05 08:35 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Although I've come across acid in my day, never a steady source. It just finds me.

This makes the trips I do get more important I guess. It's senseless to trip too often. If the trip means anything you shouldn't need to trip for a while.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: ArmFromTheAbyss]
    #4056106 - 04/14/05 08:49 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i got a frequent lsd dilemma, theres none where i live, and the lsd that does exist is low dosage and expensive. =\


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4056201 - 04/14/05 09:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I wish I could give it a try just once. There is none were I live and none were I travel to get my weed.I guess that would be my LSD dilemma

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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4056231 - 04/14/05 09:31 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i think trippin is something that should be done no more than 4-5 times a year. with anything, the more you do it, the less enjoyable each experiance is.. remember when you frist started blazing and a gram of weed was the shit? now a gram comes and goes.. theres nothing wrong with trippin more than 4-5 times a year. its not going to mess up your body. but the less you do it, the more enjoyable each experiance is


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4056250 - 04/14/05 09:35 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Well when it comes to confidence and tripping, I think most poeple need to realize that once you trust the drug and stop fearing it; your eyes will be opened.

Once you get over that meaningless fear, it's all beautiful.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: Freeker]
    #4056257 - 04/14/05 09:38 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Once you get over that meaningless fear, it's all beautiful.





Well put Freeker.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: Freeker]
    #4056258 - 04/14/05 09:39 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Also in the 1960's the potency was considerably less, I beleive.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4056265 - 04/14/05 09:44 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I did it every weekend for about a month and a half...back in 1994...I knew a guy that I worked with was someone who helped set up the lighting and the refreshment stand at certain raves and at a certain club back then. I always could get 'doses' no matter what...but anyhow, I did it a lot for a while, but after a while it seemed like I developed a tolerance to cid...just like anything else I have done...it seems like it is more fun to do it every so often...
I wish I could find it now though, but I am sure if I asked around about raves I could find it again....I just haven't been to a rave in years....


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: CherryBom]
    #4056266 - 04/14/05 09:45 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I always thought that blotter in the 60's was a lot stonger per dose, like 300-400mcg even.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4056267 - 04/14/05 09:45 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Maybe your scared of what will happen if you eat blotter too often? And that probably stems from the stories you've heard of 'some guy dosing too much and going crazy'....Or tales of that nature.
You can only become more familiar with yourself by dropping, and that should be a good thing. Needless to say, don't do it if you do't want to. I get like that with mushrooms.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: Cubieman420]
    #4056285 - 04/14/05 09:53 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Cubieman420 said:
I always thought that blotter in the 60's was a lot stonger per dose, like 300-400mcg even.




Maybe you're right.  I don't really have a source for that information so I could very well be wrong.  :shrug:


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4056395 - 04/14/05 10:36 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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OneMoreRobot3021 said:
Do you ever find yourself really shying away from frequent LSD use? But then you think back to the 60's and 70's, the golden age, and how often people were dropping, and you wonder why it is you think you can't handle more frequent trips? I wish I felt confident enough to trip more often.




Perhaps you're not in a trip friendly environment. I know if I had a house out in the country or something away from neighbors, I'd trip a lot more than I do.





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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: Learyfan]
    #4056418 - 04/14/05 10:48 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i can definately relate to the pre trip butterflies... but i think that it is all part of it.. some of the best trips ive had ive been shit scared at the beginning. The whole nervousness thing is just a part of our psychology we need to transcend or work through, to come to a point where we realise there is nothing to be afraid of. Throughout our childhood we were told that drugs were bad and evil, and that lsd would cause immediate and long term insanity. This information was planted there by people who were afraid, and often re-surfaces if we allow it to.
Once u reach the point of acceptance, it is now a tool for you to explore, enjoy and utilise.. or just to flow with.
Dmt is very much like this, the first stage can often be accompanied by complete fear of death, but once u work though that and realise just how beautiful it all is, u reach a very special place...
You have to go through the shadow to get to the other side :wink:
and yes i believe acid in the 60s was much more pure and of higher dosages due to the root of supply...
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p.s- sometimes there is a reason to be scared, make sure the people you are travellign with are mentally and psychically prepared and able.. often ive found that my pre-trip butterflies have been warnign me about the set and setting. make sure ur in a comfortabel environ and the people you are with are peopel you want to trip with. if not, why not wait till the right set and setting arises!


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: minErval]
    #4056448 - 04/14/05 10:58 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

It wasn't necessarily more pure, needlepoint, white fluff and silver are all very pure, and I recall Chinacat saying that he seriously doubted Owsleys was purer than needlepoint and fluff. The doses were definitely stronger back then though, but that's what people were used too. If doses that strong were widely circulated now there would be a shitload of freak-outs.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4056488 - 04/14/05 11:07 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

The idea is - as I discovered long ago - was not to become drug dependent on LSD; not to stay perpetually high on acid. One does not have truly life-changing experiences every time one drops. The truly memorable, life-changing events must be assimilated psychologically and this requires a span of time between them. There were periods of my life, say, at 19, where I'd come home from my factory job (the one I took during my 1 semester leave from college when I changed from pre-med to philosophy), shave some LSD off a hit of orange Berkeley sunsunshine, snort it up my nose, trip til 3:00 AM, sleep and go to work at 8:00 AM. This I'd do 2 or 3 times a week while listening to the Moody Blues, Grateful Dead and New Riders of the Purple Sage.

There were times in college where we'd get some Windowpane and spontaneously drop at 10:30 at night, trip all night and go to class the next day still high. I once gave a talk in a psych class on drugs and behavior while tripping. The talk was on tripping. I later told my professor and discussed possible reasons for the forms of the 'patterns.' He (wrongly) thought that I might be seeing brain cells. (He should have read Kluver's work on hallucinations).

But...I would walk into Dr. Berleant's class on metaphysics, my long hair greasy and pulled back (unlike my usual scrubbed and clean look), and someone would rather cooly say, 'Hey man, you need some Yin energy to all that Yang.' Of course, they knew I'd been tripping hard and didn't care how I looked among all those Long Island Jappy chicks (my ego-vanity was still diminished), and they were right, even though I was trying to become the Yang - become Shiva - become pure consciousnesss without the embodied, fleshy Shaktic pole. I WAS unbalanced.

And I became so high that after 3 years of serious tripping, when everyone was job-ready to become accountants or whatever, or had applied to grad school, I was saying, ' So I'll work on a loading dock for the rest of my life...who cares if I'm in bliss?' And boy was I wrong because if you think I'm wordy and intellectual now, you should have heard me at the end of college when I was 21 and I thought I knew it all! So I had a kind of breakdown - living again with Mom and Dad after 4 years of college where I was supposed to go to medical school afterwards and now I was being a janitor. It took another 6 months of working, another 2 years in a Masters program, a year trying to save the family business, four years of Ph.D. studies and 3 years of gaining experience in order to get a decent job. December 1976 to November 1986 of no money, no first chakra foundational energy...floating after flying...for 10 years!

The moral of the story is: use psychedelics sparingly and judiciously. Plan your trips well to get the most out of them or else you will become a cosmic vagrant whether you like it or not!


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: Dark_Star]
    #4056498 - 04/14/05 11:08 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

personally i try to keep tripping at once a month, but no more than every 2 weeks :wink: if i could find lsd i wouldn't hessitate incorporating that into my schedule. for now its just shrooms with the occasional lsa extract. mb ill get lucky though.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4056632 - 04/14/05 11:41 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I spent most of 1992 on LSD.  Never more then a couple days passed between trips.  I wouldn't reccomend it for everyone but it changed my life for the better.

And I don't think I suffered any da- da- da- da- <hits self in head> damage.  :smirk:


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: ToTheSummit]
    #4058229 - 04/15/05 11:57 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

LSD in NYC never went well for me, unless you are talking about my old Graffiti crew  :smile:
Need trees and streams and hills.
Also age is a factor, I look at it as teen thing. It's tough after your early 20's. I probably dosed about an average of once a week between the ages of 15 and 22. Then maybe only 20 times over the last 10 years.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: MasonsChild]
    #4058234 - 04/15/05 11:59 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Every single LSD trip I've had has been in NYC...and they've all been wonderful. I've only done it 8, and at one point six of those were in a six month period, that's about as intensely frequent as its ever gotten. I'm 22 now...and I have a feeling this summer it will be more frequent.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4058270 - 04/15/05 12:15 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Try getting upstate, like by finger lakes, this summer and give it a whirl. You may be pleasently surprized. A lot of my friends from the City used to come here to MN to hang out for a few weeks just so they could dose heavily without being near the static. I think I only dosed at a few Dead and Blues Traveler shows in NYC, fun for sure, but too weird overall.
Everyones miles vary. Hope you have a great summer, I'm getting the itch now too.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: MasonsChild]
    #4058271 - 04/15/05 12:15 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

My girlfriend has only done LSD once, with me, and now she says she doesn't want to do it in the city...she'll only do it somewhere in nature, which sounds great to me. Camping trip is in order.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4058559 - 04/15/05 01:25 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

We are planning a post  bonnaroo festivities in the smokey mountains.  I probably do 2 more of these potent white hits then :smile:.  Nature is key, we did ours last time on campus... there was a drunken fight across the way, cops always rolling by and what not. 

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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: baraka]
    #4058573 - 04/15/05 01:28 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I guess doing them here in NYC you also get a little worried about going outside...especially because with school and all you're tempted to do it on the weekend, and that's when half of NEw Jersey and all of Long Island rolls on in and act like assholes all over Manhattan..bad vibes.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #4058600 - 04/15/05 01:34 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

yeah my lsd dillema is definately lack thereof. guess its not that big in la. people are to into other stuff around here


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: LedHead]
    #4065152 - 04/17/05 11:32 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

i live in brooklyn now, but i grew up on long island. with the spring here now im looking forward to heading out to some of the nature preserves out on li, they have some real nice ones where u dont see too many people. planning a trip out there in a couple of weeks, i cant wait. i really hate the winter and that u pretty much have 2 stay in doors when trippin'.


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Re: The Frequent LSD Dilemma [Re: Shnezbit]
    #4065172 - 04/17/05 11:42 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

frequency is user dependent to the point of no relation. some people are called to crazy things..there's something to be said for tripping constantly, but its particular path^2.

a successful journey requires confort with your situation, just trust your gut and dont worry about it.


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