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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Bubbles85 said:
Maybe if you weren't such an illiterate, more people on the boards would get your point :lol:








Akira is better read than at least 90% of the members here and probably at least 95% of the general population.  He may be many things but illiterate is not one of them.





"fuckers, i'm not illiterate, watch your fuckin' language!"

previous commentary rescinded :lol:

it's a battle of hearts and minds -- ideas never die, but they can be swayed. :cookiemonster:

Edited by akira_akuma (03/19/16 06:22 PM)

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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
but i wouldn't go poking around trying to provoke people, insinuating myself into a position to make it seem like there is hatred and unrest towards the English community, when it's only arrived at through provocation...when i see proof that Muslims, without provocation, are accosting Englishmen and women, and segregating them in their neighborhoods, then i believe the Muslims are intentionally threatening British independence.

i need actual proof that English people are not safe or welcome in their own country.




I disagree with the actions of certain groups of Brits who intentionally provoke the Muslim population to propagate fear. But the reality is, that most of the evidence online points to Islamic extremists in the UK needing no provocation at all.

There are literally hundreds of videos online of Muslims in the UK propelling their hatred toward the native population and their intentions of living under Sharia law for example.

Islamic extremists now come out in their thousands on the streets of the UK to protest against the very country many have been born in. Below are just three examples of an endless archive.





Muslim Extremists UK

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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: Bubbles85]
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i will keep up to date, Bubbles, and will investigate a bit, a bit later. right now i'm SMOKING GANGA FUCKERS!



PS: yeah the marches/protests featuring jihadism, seen em, they're idiots, but are they really creating a notable rise in jihadism?

are there attacks?

or are these just ideologues being fools and trying, very desperately, to be democratic?

By the by, what's the point of this discussion again? standard of living? what's the significant drop-off again?

is it statistically relevant?

is this mainly a social issue, like exemplified by the rhetoric so above?

what is the standard of living? economic or social, is basically what i'm asking.

or both?

are all these above issues (lower wages? lower standard of freedom?) coterminous herein?

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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: akira_akuma]
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:awehigh:

Yeah man, most of these protests are a call for Jihad and to encourage moderate Muslims to take their faith to the extreme.

There have obviously been multiple attacks across Europe that have proved fatal and that is only set to get worse in the years to come IMO.

Obviously I'm not tryna pin this on every Muslim, but the ones who think like this are enough in number to cause serious problems and their numbers are increasing all the time.

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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: Bubbles85]
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well, fuck it, you're not fucking America. ban the shit out of Jihadi protests...but then it all goes underground. but then get OSS on that shit. crack down, like Belgium did on the French cell leader/coward.

PS: those rapes and shit are serious, and have serious underpinnings, but again, the invective i see (not so much here; although sometimes it comes close to some kinda of disguised visage of the same thing) does not help. the dire quality of people feeling upended is a bad feeling, but it causes rise to idiocy and irrationality and that = more deaths and violence.

we need more sensible people talking than people fighting.

they do not outnumber you. as a whole, you've nothing to fear, but the dissolution of order -- to create a possible interregnum of order and government, martial law, that'd be the order of the day, if the hatemongers win on either side. :shrug: because it'd be full on war for the ideologues if they couldn't speak their voice.

to achieve peace, we need to have all voice in on this, and we need to not have the invective be aimed in the wrong places, which ends up creating a divide.

hearts and minds. get them on your side. that's what's won every sensible front for civilization...and war, that's the only other option, and it's never sensible in the current world stage. another world war could end all wars.

but even for the Middle Easterners. simply doing away with them is a horrible answer. and you aren't going to strip them of their beliefs; just like centuries ago, they need to be kept from being oppressed for their meagre beliefs...actions, only actions matter. because they aren't going away unless it's foisted on the world.

Edited by akira_akuma (03/19/16 06:53 PM)

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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
5150 said:
India is a bad place for female traverlers,lotsa rapes
They don't think of woman as equal humans



I think you got the second part there wrong man. They have the caste system over there, and if you're a female from a high caste you're way above a lower caste male. Pale skin is often indicative of the higher caste.

The stats I just read kinda prove my point about the cultural tendency towards violence (or lack of). There's a bunch of cases of female tourists being raped, but when it comes to male tourists, there's next to no violent crimes recorded. There's a few 'scams' but they're often aimed at younger toursists.

Males are nearly always stronger than females, regardless of race, so the rapes are relitavely risk free for those committing them.

But an Indian male trying to rob a Western male by force would be a very risky encounter for the Indian male. Hence there are no examples of this kind of robbery recorded that I can find.

I'm sure there's exceptions to every rule, but generally the strong prey on the weak. Indian males just don't seem to have the inherent aggressiveness required to pull off a move like an upfront robbery or beating of a Westerner.



I don't know about that. Indians are actually known to have very explosive hot tempers.

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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: Crystal G] * 3
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What people don't seem to understand about the financial elites in both UK and USA - the vast majority do not care about fictional boundaries or borders known as countries.  They care about companies.  Thats their borders of control.

The rich live in mansions calling shots as they take over international corporations.  They don't care about you.  They don't care if your standard of living drops.  They don't care if you are British or Polish or American or Mexican.  You're work power is just another asset to their rule.

When people start to understand how the financial powers rule every other process then they will understand why things are exactly the way the ruling elite want them to be and then you can forget about Trump, Thatcher, immigration and all these other retarded ideoligies that bare no relevance in a system ruled by money.

I dunno why I even bother though because it appears peoiple are so deluded by the illusions of political process and voting and so caught up in the cavemen mentality of dualism to even realise that this same method of financial rule and divide and conquer has been used for thousands of years and NOTHING has ever changed at all.

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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: nice1returns]
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nice1returns said:
What people don't seem to understand about the financial elites in both UK and USA - the vast majority do not care about fictional boundaries or borders known as countries.  They care about companies.  Thats their borders of control.

The rich live in mansions calling shots as they take over international corporations.  They don't care about you.  They don't care if your standard of living drops.  They don't care if you are British or Polish or American or Mexican.  You're work power is just another asset to their rule.

When people start to understand how the financial powers rule every other process then they will understand why things are exactly the way the ruling elite want them to be and then you can forget about Trump, Thatcher, immigration and all these other retarded ideoligies that bare no relevance in a system ruled by money.

I dunno why I even bother though because it appears peoiple are so deluded by the illusions of political process and voting and so caught up in the cavemen mentality of dualism to even realise that this same method of financial rule and divide and conquer has been used for thousands of years and NOTHING has ever changed at all.



I agreed with everything you said until the last part, the political landscape has changed dramatically over the centuries. Alexander the Macedonian did not use finances to divide and conquer, nor did Genghis Khan, the Vikings or Caesar.

Financial imperialism has only reared its head as the dominant political tool over the past 700 years at the very longest. Even now that isn't entirely true, it is a broad generalization of the global political landscape.

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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said:
Isn't it really obvious why the decline in British power occurred? I don't think anyone in the thread has gotten it right yet.



The British empire fell, Duh. :lol:

Now it's back to an island with scarce resources, instead of lording over a billion people.



:whathesaid: I dunno how any of you native brits are managing to blame this on fucking immigration :lol:. Y'all should open a fuckin history book sometime.


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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: Cj-B]
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Approximate population of Britain:
1801: 9 million
1901: 40 million
2000: 60 million

Population density:  660 per sq mile

United States
Population density: 85 per sq mile

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Did I make any mistakes with these statistics?
They're accurate as far as I know.

Anyways, a few people have suggested that their main gripe with immigration is the cultural segregation of immigrant communities.

Personally I can see how such a densely populated region would become uncomfortable as it becomes smaller and smaller due to one being wedged into their cultural territory.

Population density should have a bearing on our definition of quality of life, as it most definitely does in practical day to day reality for many people. Personally I can't stand living in crowded areas, and that 660 per sq mile is averaged over the entire land mass.

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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: Repertoire89]
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Chavs and rampant alcoholism might have something to do with it, too.
Ever been in Newcastle on a saturday night? It's a warzone! Like no shit everything goes down the drain, over half of the Brittish youths have severe brain damage.


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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: Turtletotem]
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Yes the drinking culture is a big prob in uk,the place is so cloudy and dreary though can u blame ppl,if I was a citizen there I would try to get to other commonwealths,go down to british virgin islands and just bask in the sun ,drinking coconuts


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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: 5150]
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Russia also has a serious drinking issue. 

http://qz.com/403307/russia-is-quite-literally-drinking-itself-to-death/

Quote:
It’s difficult to overstate how serious Russia’s alcohol problem is.
More than 30% of all deaths in Russia in 2012 were attributable to alcohol, according to WHO data crunched by the OECD. That’s by far the highest among the nations it tracked.
Russian drinkers die a variety of deaths. Alcohol poisoning. Cirrhosis. Accidents. Suicide.

The result? Russians live some of the shortest lives in any large economy. Life expectancy for a Russian man was roughly 65 years in 2012, compared to 76 years for the US and 74 for China.




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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Russia also has a serious drinking issue. 

http://qz.com/403307/russia-is-quite-literally-drinking-itself-to-death/

Quote:
It’s difficult to overstate how serious Russia’s alcohol problem is.
More than 30% of all deaths in Russia in 2012 were attributable to alcohol, according to WHO data crunched by the OECD. That’s by far the highest among the nations it tracked.
Russian drinkers die a variety of deaths. Alcohol poisoning. Cirrhosis. Accidents. Suicide.

The result? Russians live some of the shortest lives in any large economy. Life expectancy for a Russian man was roughly 65 years in 2012, compared to 76 years for the US and 74 for China.





Drink is the joy of the Russian
-the dude who started Russia, no, really


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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
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i have the best Russian impression ever...it's simple, i just raise and clench my fist, and i say "MORE POWER"...don't forget to roll your Rs.

MORE POWERRR.

YES. i WANT MORE...POWERRR. *clench fist* MORRRE.

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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
i have the best Russian impression ever...it's simple, i just raise and clench my fist, and i say "MORE POWER"...don't forget to roll your Rs.

MORE POWERRR.

YES. i WANT MORE...POWERRR. *clench fist* MORRRE.





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Re: Why did England's standard of living drop so much? [Re: g00ru] * 1
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I live in England and that is why I smoke the ganja.


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