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OfflineCreatorMatrix14
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Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds
    #2292241 - 02/01/04 07:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

anyways.....I got that feeling, a sort of humming almost, and the damn chair fell over....I can't even begin to explain how, but I understand it intuitively......and then the chair I was sitting in almost fell over because I jumped ten feet in the air screaming 'oh my god I can't believe I just did that'.....and I almost immedeatly came out of it....you know, like when you wake yourself up in a lucid dream, because you become too lucid, you realize your sleeping and you wake yourself up.....only it was kinda the opposite effect....I went back to sleep so to speak, if you know what I mean.....after that I totally crashed.....I even began thinking the peyote had made me crazy.....that I had lost my mind......but I had to pick that chair back up again.....I was in total confusion, because everything I had known up to that point became obsolete in the face of this knowledge......and I fell into complete confusion.....until now I didn't know what to do.

you can do it on shrooms too......tripping is entirely a magical experience......an entirely mystical experience.....that is the whole structure of our universe, the mystical.....and our reason will never understand it, only very small aspects.....if you are a reasonable creature, you can never be magical.....if you can see the mystical, you can realize the dream, tripping is an instant gateway into that mystical, magical dream.....it is an instant gateway to your power as a mystical magical creature....it is one gateway to lucidity within reality......the trick is sustaining it when you are sober.....to not "wake" from that lucidity....if you know what I mean.

one of the magical experiences I had was on this mountain.....when I am tripping in the woods I often go rock hopping......the thing that started me off on all this was how astounded I was with the things my body could do......this one time I was rock hopping, and I wasn't listening to the magic around me at all.....because of this I made a false step, and broke my ankle.....at least I was pretty shure I had broken my ankle......I felt it snap.....well I cried of course, not because of the pain, but because the instant it happened I instantly saw how stupid I had been this whole time.....I was so angry I couldn't help but cry.......not to mention some of the things I was realizing where so powerful that they brought more tears......I felt I had to be taken into the loving hands of the mother......it was getting dark, and I couldn't hike off the mountain in the dark with a gimped ankle, so I had to camp......the mother led me to a small clearing not far from where it happened, and in the middle of the clearing there was a dead bush.......the bush was pretty small, but something told me to take it out of the ground......when I did I found that the roots where dense and thick.....those roots kept me warm all night long......not only that but I got some magical durt that covered them......to make a really long story short, I made enough realizations that night to heal the break in my ankle, the spot that this happened became a power spot for me.......and every time I return to it I have amazingly magical experiences

first of all I find it is best to trip by yourself......unless you are with others that understand magic.....if not they will only hold you back.......and what I described was an explosion of awareness....for that is what tripping is all about......it can also be the exact opposite if you are not carefull, or if you fight the magic.......it is hard to explain how I healed my ankle.....it is all about body awareness.....that is why I like rock hopping because it takes a certain sort of bodily awareness........all I can say is that I felt my ankle.....it was kind of like a flexing of the mucles in my foot.....of finding the damaged places and 'flexing' them....I think what I was really doing was sending large amounts of energy to my foot......at some point I seemed to 'flex' so much that I got a cramp in my calf....the cramp kind of moved up my calf, and dissapeared at my knee.....when I look back I think that was the break.......there are many more details to that night too, but I can not find the words to explain them........that is the problem with tripping, it is an induced awareness that soon wears off, leaving us with a vague memory of the knowledge we fully integrated during the trip........the true journey.....the true challenge, is grasping, and sustaining that reality....that knowledge......on your own.....but tripping can help us by giving us a quick glimps.....so we don't get entirely lost

the key is in your heart, in the power you know lies in there......don't let anyone tell you different....that is what I learned tonight.....listen to the earth.......listen to the mystical.....quiet your reason.....and let the knowledge flow into you.....as a race we are begining to become concious.....also realize the power of the lucid dreams.....this world is just starting to open for me......and it is for you too.....I am just sorry that more of us can't see it.......so many of us are blind to it......but don't let those people hold you back......instead seek the ones who see....and when you have enough knowledge yourself try to share it with the ones who don't, even though most of them won't listen.........we are in this journey together:-)



My Own Thoughts:

This Peyote Experience that I have posted here is relievent for a number of reasons. First there is something seemingly magical that took place. It is the details of that magical process that I would like to elaborate on and expand upon. Firstly, here are a couple of links that will give the nessessary background information on the nature of souls and what is posible. They are short articles and can be read very quickly.

http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d30.htm

http://www.zetatalk.com/density/d22.htm



Now that you have read the information at these links I can elaborate on this. Souls have substance and can alter the phsical body. Here is a quote from Zetatalk.

~~ "The spirit occupies its own density, a density that can interact with matter on all other densities. Just as the spirit adjusts itself to the incarnation density, and positions itself to communicate with the human brain for the Mind/Spirit Connection, likewise it positions itself to influence the human body." ~~~

I would like to take this a step further. Zetatalk says that souls have the ability to directly influence the biochemistry of the human body. What is not talked about at zetatalk is the "degree" to which the soul can affect the physical body. The degree to which the soul occupies the physical body can be changed. Our souls have the ability to pull themselfs into the body at differing degrees of intensity and likewise have a differing ability to alter and influence the body dependant on what level of intensity the soul is at.

When the soul is fully occupying the human body, its ability to influence the body changes. Its ability increases the more the soul ocupies the body.

When consuming peyote or magic mushrooms the soul is pulled into the body at perhaps a strength of intensity that is rarely if ever seen normally. I don't know why this is so, but it is. The intensity of the soul becomes magnified multible times and its ability to alter the physical body also magnifies multible times. In the example I have provided the individual was able to heal his broken ankle in only a few seconds of time. He moved energy into the damaged area and was able to heal it within seconds.

In this example the individuals soul was able to take full control of dense bone structure and actively rearrange the material in seconds. The true details of what occured here are not known to me. It could be that this person was somehow assisted in the healing of his ankle without the full conscious awareness of this occuring. There could be many reasons why this occured but it is my firm belief that it was the actions of the soul that caused this healing to occure.


Edited by CreatorMatrix14 (02/01/04 08:00 PM)


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2292272 - 02/01/04 08:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I agree that there are people able to do "healings" with their spirits, or souls, but they don't necessarily need to ingest a hallucinogen in order to achieve the healing. Edgar Cayce is an example of a person who could heal others without using peyote or mushrooms.


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2292587 - 02/01/04 10:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Zetatalk says...

That says it all. Eveyone of their predictions has failed to come to pass and the errors on their website are too numerous to list.

As to the healing, that is an interesting story. Too bad that mysterious power is unable to manifest itself before impartial scientific observers like every other story regarding bending or bypassing known physical laws.

Note to potential respondents: try NOT to use the phrase "lab coats or "laboratory" in your post.


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2292864 - 02/02/04 01:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"The spirit occupies its own density, a density that can interact with matter on all other densities. Just as the spirit adjusts itself to the incarnation density, and positions itself to communicate with the human brain for the Mind/Spirit Connection, likewise it positions itself to influence the human body"

Anyone see the movie 21 Grams? They say that the body looses 21 grams at the time of death. What causes this? Some say its the spirit, or the life force in every human, but despite scientific studies, no one can confirm where this phenomenom comes from.


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2293026 - 02/02/04 02:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Anybody here read the book "Mutant Message Down Under"?

In the section "Healing" of this book, an observer watches two healers from the aboriginal tribe that call themselves "the real people", help heal a young tribe members leg where the bone had broken and exited the skin. They performed a ritual by praying and moving their hands around the broken part of the leg, without touching it, and put the bone back in to where it belonged. Clots of blood from the womens rags *ewww* which were collected overtime, were put on the wound where the bone had exited.
The next day, after a night of rest, the victim of the broken leg stood up, and walked normaly without assistance.

This is a book of the authors experiences in the Australian outback with the Aboriginal Tribe. What happened, according to the author (I forget her name), is all based on true events.

This is a perfect example of what CreatorMatrix14 is talking about, and it also proves that you don't need certain drugs to accomplish and witness this amazing phenomena. Hallucinogens maybe help the untrained Mind to do this by breaking all rules of what the world sees as rational and realistic.


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: 2Experimental]
    #2293159 - 02/02/04 04:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

They say that the body looses 21 grams...

Who, the producers or screenwriters of a movie? Now that is a trustworthy source. If you have a better one, please list it.


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2293191 - 02/02/04 04:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You don't have to point me to another website for an explaination of magic or any of that stuff. I think most of it is possible and that one day we will see things that have never been thought of before I'm talking way past telekenisis.


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: Droz]
    #2293203 - 02/02/04 04:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think most of it is possible ...

Thinking something doesn't make it a reality. This can easily be demonstrated.


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2293209 - 02/02/04 04:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hey this is a very interesting thread

"There could be many reasons why this occured but it is my firm belief that it was the actions of the soul that caused this healing to occure."

Please don't take offense but I must disagree :smile: I think the reason this occured is because his ankle didn't really break to begin with


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2293681 - 02/02/04 10:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

bullshiiiit, call me a rational thinker, but magic is for children...and/or people who need something to hold on to


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CleverName]
    #2293685 - 02/02/04 11:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

When I need something to hold on to I reach into my pants...
















... and grab my wallet, because my wife's nearby.


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    #2293690 - 02/02/04 11:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #2293691 - 02/02/04 11:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hehe, i, unfortunatly, usually have to rely on grabbing my own dick :tongue2:


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CleverName]
    #2294478 - 02/02/04 05:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hey, as long as it's your own... it would be weird to reach into your pants and grab someone else's...


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: Sclorch]
    #2294677 - 02/02/04 06:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2308261 - 02/06/04 12:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you for your posts everyone.  I am pleased. 

Frog,

While it is true that there are some individuals like Cayce who were mere instruments for a higher healing energy, these people are in the vast minority and that process is something quite different from what I am describing above.  Those are my feelings at least.  I really don't know what happened with this person who ate peyote but it is my strong feeling that he healed his ankle unaided by anything else other than his own soul energy.  This could be wrong but it is my feeling that I am not wrong.  As for the true details behind Edgar Cayce, what do you think about him?  Was he able to create the healing energy by himself solely, or was he simply an instrument for higher healing energy that came from 'above?' 



2Experimental,

That is a really good point you have brought up.  Very good,thank you.  :smile:


Ginseng,

I have heard many interesting stories about the Aboriginal Tribes in Australia.  The experience you desribe is excellent.  Thank you very much for this.  I think theres a lot more going on than most people in this world are aware of.  What the Aboriginals of Australia know about is some of the lost knowledge that use to be much more common place upon this world.  Knowledge and systems of life have actually been de-evolving and breaking down and simplifying in form for a very long time now.  Only in the last few years or so have things begun to change.  Please feel free to tell me more Ginseng.  :smile:


Droz,

I agree with you, and I think that day is coming soon.




Thank you for your comments everyone else.  I look forward to more indepth discussion on this topic.


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2308297 - 02/06/04 01:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The experience I have posted here with this particular individuals peyote experience, is something that was told to me over the internet.  I met this person on an internet chat site and we started talking and he brought up this recent experience of his. 

Now...    aside from this fantastic desription, what proof do I have that such things are possible?  .... well...  I would like to be able to tell you that I was able to heal a broken ankle too or some such similair experience, but sadly I haven't experienced something like this.  I've never consumed any amount of peyote before, although if I ever had the chance I would take it in the blink of an eye.  :smile: 

So...    what I will do is describe now my own experiences with magic mushrooms, as I have a far bit of experience in this field. 

After eating hallucinogenic mushrooms I begin to feel my soul energy coming into my body in compounding waves of intensity.  Its as if my body is an empty bottle and when I eat mushrooms a new and profound energy of somekind begins to flow down from the top of my head and into my body.  You can feel it coming in.  This is the human soul that is applifying its ability to have influence over the physical vessel.  At some point you are 'full' and then you begin to walk around and you feel much heavier than before and you can feel your body much more than you could before.  Its as if all the sensations of your body become amplified and perfected so that you are in full sensory awareness of everything your body is on all levels.  After achieving this state of being one particular day, I decided to try something.  I was outside at the time walking down an old bike path.  I looked down at my leg and could see a kind of suttle Aura around it.  Well what I did next surprized me.  I begin relaxing my leg and allowing 'myself' to flow into it with greater density than before.  I allowed more soul energy to flow into the leg and I watched it while I was doing this and I noticed something that blow my mind at the time.  As the soul energy entered my leg I could that the Aura around it changed instantly.  It got more refined and clearer and just looked like the whole nature of reality had chanced in that Auric field around my leg.  Ones perceptual faculties need to be highly refined to be able to see these things but it was amazing.  I reasoned that if I had enough spare energy to pump into my leg I could potentially heal an injury like a broken ankle. 

These realizations were profound at the time and I began looking at things in a whole different light after this.  There is so much more that can be learned.  If mushrooms are used responsibly they (and other drugs) and teach us so much about the world and about things we never thought possible.

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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2332273 - 02/13/04 10:28 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Hello Again Ginseng,

I've been researching the book you read called "Mutant Message Down Under." What I have found is very very interesting and I was curious to know if you could further elaborate on this book since I assume you have read it. I wouldn't be surprized if what Marlo Morgan talks about is true. There are many people in high places who do not want certain kinds of knowledge to be known or made available. It may be that Marlo was targeted and attacked in an effort to smear her story and styme the truth that she exposed and brought to attention with her book and experiences with Autrailian Aboriginals. Very interesting....


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2332315 - 02/13/04 10:39 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That's nothing. My broken penis healed in a second when I looked at Gillette.


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Re: Peyote Experience ~ Guys broken Ankle healed in seconds [Re: CreatorMatrix14]
    #2479497 - 03/28/04 12:00 AM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I must bump my own thread now...

:laugh:


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