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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: hostileuniverse]
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airclay said:
the concept (true or not) you're presenting (No one has the right to attack me,) has nothing to do whether it's a straw man or not the way you presented (regardless of what liberals think...) by stating that liberals here or elsewhere were condoning an attack on anyone else is what makes it a straw man



hostileuniverse said:
Is it strawmanning if it's true?

***homest question, please edukate me, I is dum...



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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: hostileuniverse]
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and now you're def trolling


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: airclay]
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You never answered the question,

If it's true, is it still a strawman?


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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Yes, it's still a strawman argument.  You're attributing to someone a position they never argued.  That is a strawman argument.


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Yes, it's still a strawman argument.  You're attributing to someone a position they never argued.  That is a strawman argument.



Wait, what? They have argued that position, maybe not directly, but certainly with their defense of policies that lead to certain situations, is that not a position of endorcing the outcomes of said policies?


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 5
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That's what makes it a strawman.  If you argue against positions they've actually taken, that's a valid argument.  If you draw conclusions about their position on one issue based on their position on another issue, that's a strawman. 

You're very sloppy at distinguishing between positions actually taken by people and positions you ASSUME they would take.  This is why they call you strawman and why you are so ineffective at debate.  If you were more careful to first accurately identify your opponent's position, you'd be far more effective at arguing against it.  You'd probably be respected a lot more in this forum, too.


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: Enlil]
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I'd rather be hated for what I am than loved for what I am not

So you're saying, for example, that if someone is for sanctuary cities, that doesn't mean they support the crime that results from that policy?


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
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Correct.


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: Enlil]
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zfg


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: Enlil]
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hostileuniverse said:
I'd rather be hated for what I am than loved for what I am not

So you're saying, for example, that if someone is for sanctuary cities, that doesn't mean they support the crime that results from that policy?



Enlil said:
Correct.



MIND FUCKING BLOWN!

So you're saying that basically everything these libs accuse conservatives of doing is a fucking strawman! And here I though they were just being assholes:lmafo:

I guess I'm gonna need to save that pic, gonna be using it A LOT!


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
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hostileuniverse said:
MIND FUCKING BLOWN!

So you're saying that basically everything these libs accuse conservatives of doing is a fucking strawman! And here I though they were just being assholes:lmafo:



I can't wait for an example of what you're talking about.  :popcorn:


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 3
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it's an honour having you, HU, use the strawman pic (if you ever find a valid time to do so). As I've said before, you should just change your avatar to it. Its a great pic, i love it.



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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: Tipote]
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http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2016/01/black_lives_matter_wants_cop_charged_urging_drivers_run_over_demonstrators.html

That's fine, as long as they also charge the BLM's members who were calling for the murder of cops, talk about hypocrisy.

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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: qman]
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There's a vast difference in being an Official in a position of power and being a loud mouth reactionary in a moment set aside for you to express your rage. There's also a pretty big difference in suspending someone for damaging speech to an organization and charging some one with a crime over speech in an excersize of free speech.


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
There's a vast difference in being an Official in a position of power and being a loud mouth reactionary in a moment set aside for you to express your rage. There's also a pretty big difference in suspending someone for damaging speech to an organization and charging some one with a crime over speech in an excersize of free speech.



Criminal chargers regarding speech don't differentiate whether a person is a off-duty cop or citizen.

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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: qman] * 1
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but they do annotate whether that person is in a position of official state power. You're also forgetting that it's being labelled as a terroristic threat.

You've really downplayed sherriff's whole actions

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His post stated: “Run them over. Keep traffic flowing and don’t slow down for any of these idiots who try and block the street.” Rothecker then explains to drivers how to avoid being charged for striking a demonstrator.



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At Friday’s news conference, Trahern Crews said Rothecker’s comments go beyond being hateful. It constitutes a crime under the state’s terroristic threats statute, he stated.

“His admission, although not heartfelt ... is an admission of guilt, and we expect (the) city attorney ... to proceed with criminal charges. ... It’s ridiculous to think that this guy is on paid administrative leave after admitting to terroristic threats,” Crews said.



you're being really childish and overtly naive about the situation entirely. really this is your best effort qman? An obviously unequal tit for tat that seeks to make speech by citizens in everyday life a crime?

your support for the long arm of the rich is scary dude


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: hostileuniverse] * 2
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hostileuniverse said:
hostileuniverse said:
I'd rather be hated for what I am than loved for what I am not

So you're saying, for example, that if someone is for sanctuary cities, that doesn't mean they support the crime that results from that policy?



Enlil said:
Correct.



MIND FUCKING BLOWN!

So you're saying that basically everything these libs accuse conservatives of doing is a fucking strawman! And here I though they were just being assholes:lmafo:

I guess I'm gonna need to save that pic, gonna be using it A LOT!



Strawman king always blaming liberals for everything .. how naive are you kid ??? Neither liberals or conservatives are looking out for any of us.

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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: airclay]
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airclay said:
but they do annotate whether that person is in a position of official state power. You're also forgetting that it's being labelled as a terroristic threat.

You've really downplayed sherriff's whole actions

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His post stated: “Run them over. Keep traffic flowing and don’t slow down for any of these idiots who try and block the street.” Rothecker then explains to drivers how to avoid being charged for striking a demonstrator.



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At Friday’s news conference, Trahern Crews said Rothecker’s comments go beyond being hateful. It constitutes a crime under the state’s terroristic threats statute, he stated.

“His admission, although not heartfelt ... is an admission of guilt, and we expect (the) city attorney ... to proceed with criminal charges. ... It’s ridiculous to think that this guy is on paid administrative leave after admitting to terroristic threats,” Crews said.



you're being really childish and overtly naive about the situation entirely. really this is your best effort qman? An obviously unequal tit for tat that seeks to make speech by citizens in everyday life a crime?




I never said anyone's speech was a crime, I'm pointing out the irony from a group that constantly screams for the murder of cops to now show great concern for criminal laws when threatening speech points in their direction.

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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: qman] * 2
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when have they screamed for "the murder of cops"?


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Re: Police Officer Suspended for Allegedly Urging Drivers to Run Over BLM 'Idiots' [Re: Tipote]
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