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Skepticism
    #2265104 - 01/23/04 09:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2265125 - 01/23/04 09:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

One who picks and chooses what not to take for granted. :shiftyeyes:


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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2265132 - 01/23/04 09:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Um, a guy that works on backyard plumbing?


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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2265140 - 01/23/04 10:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ok, if there is an idea that is being thrown around, that says it is fact, then the skeptic is going to question how valid that statement/idea is (bad grammer I know :wink:).

this is my own definition, but the dictionary offers up some really specific examples (neat to ponder over anyway)

1) skeptic:  a person who maintains a doubting attitude, as towards value, plans, statements, or the character of others ^_^

2)skeptic:  philos: a member of the philisophical group in ancient greece, the earliest group of which consisted of Pyrrho (hehe pyro???) and his followers, who maintained that real knowledge of things is impossible  :shocked:

what do you guys think of this?


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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2265207 - 01/23/04 10:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This forum might as well have "Spirituality, Philosophy & Etymology" in it's title...left and right people are defining and re-defining words on and on alot lately.

Maybe we all need to take some refresher courses back in English. :smirk:

Oh, and I looked up the word Skeptic in my dickshunairy, and all I found was Swami's picture next to it. :grin:

Look up the word Sexologist, you'll find my picture.. :nut:



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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2265571 - 01/23/04 01:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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What is a skeptic?




I define a skeptic as anyone who does not accept my ideas at face value.  What?  Evidence?  Fuck you arrogant asshole!

I also define a skeptic as a close minded individual who rejects mainstream ideas.  What, you're a theist?  That's absurd, it can't even be proven that there is a god, that's why I'm an atheist!

:lol:


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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2265607 - 01/23/04 01:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

> What is a skeptic?

A person that doubts (or is willing to argue against) their own beliefs.


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Re: Skepticism [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2265625 - 01/23/04 01:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You'll find my picture next to the phrase P.I.T.A. (Pain in the Ass)


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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2265749 - 01/23/04 02:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

In the old days, it was a doctor who didn't believe in germs...


or washing his hands between patients.




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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: Skepticism [Re: Evolving]
    #2265766 - 01/23/04 02:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's not so much that he didn't believe in germs... he'd never heard of them.


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Re: Skepticism [Re: Phluck]
    #2265773 - 01/23/04 02:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Actually, even when confronted with the evidence at the time by comparing hospital wards where hands were washed and antiseptics used vs. those where such practices were not undertaken, many doctors still refused to believe in germs because they could not see them and/or it did not fit with what they believed.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: Skepticism [Re: Evolving]
    #2265790 - 01/23/04 02:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

... or their egos persuaded them to keep from admitting that their practices were harming their patients.


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To call humans 'rational beings' does injustice to the term, 'rational.'  Humans are capable of rational thought, but it is not their essence.  Humans are animals, beasts with complex brains.  Humans, more often than not, utilize their cerebrum to rationalize what their primal instincts, their preconceived notions, and their emotional desires have presented as goals - humans are rationalizing beings.


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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2265897 - 01/23/04 03:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A skeptic is a person who demands proof before concluding that something exists (unlike a theist.) A skeptic is not a person who refuses to acknowledge phenomena that become evident (like germs) but rather a person who evaluates available evidence and sticks to the rational over the fantastic when it comes to explanations. It seems that people on this board are too often using the word skeptic as if it were an insult to be rational and demand proof of things.

Specifically, when it comes to the issue of god, I don't think it's a skeptcal view to say that god does not exist, I think that given the complete lack of evidence offered up by theists, that it is a realistic position to have. If you want to make outlandish claims such as "there is an invisible entity somewhere in the universe that rules us all," then the burden of proof is on you to make your case. It is not my responsibility to prove that the world is in fact as it seems.


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Re: Skepticism [Re: kaiowas]
    #2266606 - 01/23/04 07:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2266681 - 01/23/04 08:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2266716 - 01/23/04 08:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

a lot of people wonder what field my doctrate is in.

its misogynecology :lol:


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Re: Skepticism [Re: Frog]
    #2266807 - 01/23/04 09:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Frog said:
You'll find my picture next to the phrase P.I.T.A. (Pain in the Ass)




Hey, you were right! I did find your picture next to it:


:thumbup:



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Re: Skepticism [Re: SkorpivoMusterion]
    #2267029 - 01/24/04 12:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ahem...

God, do you ever not pay attention???


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Re: Skepticism [Re: ]
    #2267058 - 01/24/04 12:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"That being the case I think there is a high probability that their "preference" for denying the divine has its genesis in their psychology, not in facts."

What can we say about the religious minded person who has a preference for believing in mystical "explanations" for the universe and life with absolutely no facts? Wouldn't you say that there is most likely a psychological bias here too?


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Re: Skepticism [Re: Shizpow]
    #2267066 - 01/24/04 12:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have been talking to someone lately who believes something, that to my way of thinking, just doesn't make sense. But I have to let her believe what she believes, because who am I to say?

But it helped me to understand how people must think when I tell them, ferverently, what I believe.


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