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Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida
#21542055 - 04/13/15 02:13 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/alabama-college-students-busted-spring-break-rape-cops-article-1.2183041
"A star college athlete and a classmate from Alabama's Troy University have been suspended after authorities discovered a cellphone video that allegedly shows them sexually assaulting a women on a beach"
"Sheriff McKeithen described the graphic video as the "most disgusting, sickening thing" he had seen."
"Delonte Martistee and Ryan Calhoun were charged with sexual assault"
A frat at the University of Virginia gets convinced of rape in the court of public opinion based on a false story, these two black students rape a women on video and nobody says a word, what a bunch of bullshit.
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: qman] 4
#21542076 - 04/13/15 02:18 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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hang them fuckers in front of the school.....
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: jboredone] 1
#21542084 - 04/13/15 02:20 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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i don't get it. explain, OP. explain it to my simple brain.
so they found this video and... this is just made up to you, that the video was found? so it's basically just another PR stunt to PC the world up and make administrators money, and basically they just sold us the "video story" in the media, so that we'd believe that they had reason to suspend those students, but really they don't have any reason, and they're being suspended for no reason at all?
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: akira_akuma]
#21542107 - 04/13/15 02:29 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i don't get it. explain, OP. explain it to my simple brain.
so they found this video and... this is just made up to you, that the video was found? so it's basically just another PR stunt to PC the world up and make administrators money, and basically they just sold us the "video story" in the media, so that we'd believe that they had reason to suspend those students, but really they don't have any reason, and they're being suspended for no reason at all?
Reread my OP, there's hypocrisy taking place on the reporting of college rapes based on race.
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: qman] 1
#21542125 - 04/13/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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i just saw "video seen of these two dudes raping chick in public, where no one did anything about it" (wtf already enough) but then you go on to say... that it's a racial thing that's going on campus; that the administration's of schools around the states are all trying to frame evidence against black students? or what the fuck are you talking about?! point it out to me. please, i mean, it sounds like you're on some crazy Charle Manson Helter-Skelter race-war shit...
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#21542142 - 04/13/15 02:38 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: i just saw "video seen of these two dudes raping chick in public, where no one did anything about it" (wtf already enough) but then you go on to say... that it's a racial thing that's going on campus; that the administration's of schools around the states are all trying to frame evidence against black students? or what the fuck are you talking about?! point it out to me. please, i mean, it sounds like your on some crazy Charle Manson Helter-Skelter race-war shit...
The false rape allegations against the University of Virginia frat covered by Rolling Stone had those white guys convinced of rape (in the court of public opinion) based on pure hearsay from some crazy female.
There two black college guys rape on woman on video, yet not a word, why can't you see the hypocrisy in the media coverage?
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: qman]
#21542152 - 04/13/15 02:42 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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but it was videoed. it was seen that it was them, wasn't it? i mean, or was it too other black guys and the school admins and the police and court was all like "yep, two black guys, definitely two black guys. guilty!"
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: akira_akuma] 2
#21542162 - 04/13/15 02:45 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: but it was videoed. it was seen that it was them, wasn't it? i mean, or was it too other black guys and the school admins and the police and court was all like "yep, two black guys, definitely two black guys. guilty!" 
Are you high or something? This basic concept of biased media coverage is going right over your head.
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: qman] 1
#21542175 - 04/13/15 02:48 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its pretty simple. He's looking for a race controversy where there's not enough evidence to support it basically. As usual he thinks whites have it rough, but the blacks have an easy go of things.
That fraternity thing was a shitty joke though indeed
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: Ezuma]
#21542187 - 04/13/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: Its pretty simple. He's looking for a race controversy where there's not enough evidence to support it basically. As usual he thinks whites have it rough, but the blacks have an easy go of things.
That fraternity thing was a shitty joke though indeed
If you want to ignore that obvious hypocrisy that's your choice, keep on buying into the way the MSM CHOOSES to cover similar scenarios with one different variable.
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: qman]
#21542197 - 04/13/15 02:53 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its a bit early to assume its a race thing... I definitely think the media wants to push the race thing in fact, because its good for getting viewers and all that, endless source of friction. I don't see that you can make that assumption off of two cases though
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: qman] 2
#21542205 - 04/13/15 02:55 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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why can't you see the hypocrisy in the media coverage?
this story was on my local news last night. along with the assailants mugshots. wtf are you talking about?
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: qman] 2
#21542212 - 04/13/15 02:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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yeah, but how the fuck can anyone follow that? are you seriously thinking we all follow MSM (whoever the fuck that is) like you do, and can see through the cracks? based on one article? that's why i'm asking, wtf are you talking about.
LOL i admire your tenacity qman but seriously your ability to predict the future is over my head, and as is your ability to discern how people should be thinking about one broadcast or new report over another, in their lives, because you feel that the subject is important.
i mean, if you did, and you really thought there needed to be an academic discussion on it, or a dialogue here; then you'd at least be able to tell us what the big picture is here; give us an short essay on your subject matter here, that you attributing to this article. frankly, i don't know whether to think it's true or not, because i can only take the article at face value, and i have no other articles, FAQs, discussions, reports, or anything for that matter, to go on.
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: stupid adage]
#21542223 - 04/13/15 03:01 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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stupid adage said:
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why can't you see the hypocrisy in the media coverage?
this story was on my local news last night. along with the assailants mugshots. wtf are you talking about?
Dude you live in Florida and that's a local news station. There wasn't a word about this in the NYTimes today or on CNN this morning. If this hadn't been posted I wouldn't have heard about it.
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: akira_akuma] 1
#21542240 - 04/13/15 03:06 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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akira_akuma said: yeah, but how the fuck can anyone follow that? are you seriously thinking we all follow MSM (whoever the fuck that is) like you do, and can see through the cracks? based on one article? that's why i'm asking, wtf are you talking about.
LOL i admire your tenacity qman but seriously your ability to predict the future is over my head, and as is your ability to discern how people should be thinking about one broadcast or new report over another, in their lives, because you feel that the subject is important.
i mean, if you did, and you really thought there needed to be an academic discussion on it, or a dialogue here; then you'd at least be able to tell us what the big picture is here; give us an short essay on your subject matter here, that you attributing to this article. frankly, i don't know whether to think it's true or not, because i can only take the article at face value, and i have no other articles, FAQs, discussions, reports, or anything for that matter, to go on. 
There is not a single mainstream news station reporting this story and the two culprits are black.
A few months back a rolling stones article was published about a frat party in which a gang rape allegedly occurred in which the "assailants" were all white. The story flooded the mainstream news stations' front page for a while and the entire thing ended being a complete and utter lie.
This is a simple point that qman is making. No one is predicting the future, this actually happened.
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: Webster10]
#21542248 - 04/13/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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sure there is a prediction. his prediction is that this is that, but how the hell can we know until that information comes out? what is he a psychic? good for him.
so the media is racist? is that his point?
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: Webster10]
#21542251 - 04/13/15 03:08 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh i got ya, this is one of those "Where's the outrage?!" things.
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: akira_akuma]
#21542262 - 04/13/15 03:11 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, he is predicting that this incident ISN'T a lie. There is video evidence, it's indisputable that they are guilty, like you just said like 2 posts ago. The difference is in the amount of coverage. The blacks who are certainly guilty are getting ignored by mainstream news outlets. But a satire story also about rape but last time involving white culprits was blasted by all the liberal outlets for weeks. You really must be drunk.
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: Webster10]
#21542285 - 04/13/15 03:18 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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no, he must be, he can't explain his point, but you can do it for him? i think he's drunk.
brotherman, i don't think you're getting where i'm coming from... i'm asking HIM (though now YOU) whether this is relevant or not to the previous school scandal, and then he mentions the media, but nothing more... now i understand where YOU are coming from and now i can ask you... is it simply pandering for ratings or it for dialogue? i mean, it didn't get big so what, did they fail? or maybe there isn't enough people talking about these issues all ready, and the more inherent bias that can be tacked onto the story, if you will, will attract more attention and thus reveal people's bias's? i already know already people are biased. i don't need to be told again and again and again... so i'm asking, is this relevant to what he's saying it's relevant too; is it relevant to the previous uproar about the white dudes in that Rolling Stones article? or is it just some random thin connection that's based on nothing but a predisposition over whether the bias is working against, what our moral fibre? is it an economic problem? a race problem? WHAT?
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Re: Troy University (Alabama) students suspended after spring break rape in Florida [Re: qman]
#21542318 - 04/13/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Another factor affecting the relative outrage the two stories could be expected to generate is that a woman (allegedly) being raped by a group of seven men is a more dramatic story than a woman getting raped by two men. Comparing just these two stories and drawing broader conclusions about bias seems pretty pointless. The bias the OP is arguing for may well exist but this is a very weak supporting argument.
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