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Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker
    #6819263 - 04/22/07 02:02 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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"A Christian student has been punished by his Michigan high school for demonstrating opposition to a school event celebrating the homosexual lifestyle. The boy's father, a pastor, says he's frustrated the rights of Christian students are being constantly trampled on campus.

Oakridge High School in Muskegon, Michigan, is one of many schools across the U.S. that took part in Wednesday's "National Day of Silence" -- an event promoted heavily by homosexual activist groups, which view it as a day to protest alleged discrimination faced by students who identify as "gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender (GLBT)." At Oakridge High, duct tape was passed out for students to wear over their lips as a way to show solidarity with homosexual students who are purportedly suffering in silence.

John Gardner is pastor of Holton Family Life Worship Center in Holton, a community of approximately 2,500 about 17 miles northeast of Muskegon. Pastor Gardner says his 15-year-old son David, a student at Oakridge High, was suspended for a day by the school because he wrote with a black marker "I'm straight" on a piece of duct tape and attached it to his shirt. He explains that David donned the message to voice his objection to the school's participation in the Day of Silence.

"They asked him, at that point, to take it off," Gardner says, "and David [asked] why do the rest of the kids in the class get to wear theirs and I can't wear something about what I believe?" According to the pastor, the teacher then instructed David to remove the message or he would be "kicked out" of class. "And he said, 'Well then, you'll have to kick me out' -- and that's what they did," says David's father.

Pastor Gardner says every week he preaches that the day is coming when opposition to homosexuality will be banned, but he never imagined it would happen in his small Michigan town. He says a "liberal mentality" is being pushed in public schools to the extent many children are being indoctrinated with it.

It is time, says the Michigan pastor, for Christians to step to the forefront. "I tell you, I fear what's coming in the next ten years for the Church and the schools -- and children, in general -- if the Christians don't come out of their closet," he says. "The gays and lesbians want to come out of their closet; I think the Church needs to come out of their closet and stand up and be the Body of Christ that God has told it to be."

Gardner states he has not decided whether to take legal action against Oakridge High School.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: poke smot!]
    #6819302 - 04/22/07 02:18 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I'm all for gay rights and hate bible thumpers, but bullshit is bullshit. I don't see how this kid did anything wrong.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: poke smot!]
    #6819304 - 04/22/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

As much as I disagree with their opinion ("liberal mentality"... sheesh), I think it was way over the line to kick that boy out... what ever happened to the first amendment?


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #6819335 - 04/22/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

its just that its such a bad thing to make fun of a gay person now, to be honest gay gross me out, i dont really care that they are gay and what not but the whole idea to be is more gut renching than anything. this whole story is sorta like the whole midget thing, say anything wrong to the midget and you are deemed an asshole by society. what ever the case i dont think they should promote gayness in schools its just wrong. its one of those arguements that go both ways but it seems as the years go on our country just gets gayer and gayer as do the people. For example, i live in california, and the gayest law ever is the fucking spore law, obviously some fag put that one in the books. son of a bitch


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6819354 - 04/22/07 02:38 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Drewski said:
its just that its such a bad thing to make fun of a gay person now, to be honest gay gross me out, i dont really care that they are gay and what not but the whole idea to be is more gut renching than anything. this whole story is sorta like the whole midget thing, say anything wrong to the midget and you are deemed an asshole by society. what ever the case i dont think they should promote gayness in schools its just wrong. its one of those arguements that go both ways but it seems as the years go on our country just gets gayer and gayer as do the people. For example, i live in california, and the gayest law ever is the fucking spore law, obviously some fag put that one in the books. son of a bitch




Hands down one of the most eloquent arguments on the Shroomery :rolleyes:

I support gay rights whole-heartedly but I disagree with how this situation was handled. This kid was just expressing his views like all the others were allowed to. However wrong I think his anti-gay opinion is (if he even is anti-gay; the article doesn't really say) he still has the freedom to express it.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: DNKYD]
    #6819419 - 04/22/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: moon_glue]
    #6819594 - 04/22/07 03:53 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

just think about this...what is the point of being gay? once you are gay you render your natural uses as an animal/mammal/human useless. you are basically disrespecting your family and everything they stand for (im sure being gay isnt even close to anything your family beleives in otherwise you wouldnt have one, as explained in the second sentence) because you are refusing to extend the legacy of your family which can be traced generations back. but if another mans love is more important to the future exesistance of your whole families legacy then i guess gay rights are great.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: poke smot!]
    #6819595 - 04/22/07 03:54 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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He says a "liberal mentality" is being pushed in public schools to the extent many children are being indoctrinated with it.




Mmm.. That sounds familiar. Oh, wait, isn't that the same thing religions are doing? Yet this "liberal mentality" promotes freedom and indiscrimination, while religions just push the ultra-conservative and often racist views on everybody. Bloody brainwashing.. It will end someday.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6819603 - 04/22/07 03:57 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

ps dknyd on the lighter note...your signature explains something i could never find the words for-thanks


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6819625 - 04/22/07 04:01 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Drewski said:
just think about this...what is the point of being gay? once you are gay you render your natural uses as an animal/mammal/human useless. you are basically disrespecting your family and everything they stand for (im sure being gay isnt even close to anything your family beleives in otherwise you wouldnt have one, as explained in the second sentence) because you are refusing to extend the legacy of your family which can be traced generations back. but if another mans love is more important to the future exesistance of your whole families legacy then i guess gay rights are great.




I agree with some parts, the genetic material is lost and it isn't the optimal situation for the person's parents or relatives. Yet the natural selection will take care of gays, people shouldn't be the ones doing it. It's their choice. They want to live their lives that way, and others shouldn't have anything to say about it. Just live your own life happily, and accept the fact that others have the same right too.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Tech]
    #6819653 - 04/22/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

thanks for your wisdom tech!


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6819661 - 04/22/07 04:10 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I think the boy should be punished but not suspended. He went out of his way to try to shame a "holiday" that already has a lot of prejuduce around it. During black history month kids aren't allowed to wear shirts that say "there should be a white history month too"

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Tech]
    #6819701 - 04/22/07 04:21 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

well all i have to say is that people are stupid. im sorry, but how does a kid being suspended for one day make the news? shit like shit happens every day in countless places.

kids say stuff like that every day too. not that i would ever do something as butthole-ish as do that, (if in fact the kid was serious about wanting to keep gays in the closet) but if the other kids are for it, its only fair that there should be another group against it.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: wireless]
    #6819703 - 04/22/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

hm..good point. but it wasnt like it said, i hate gays, or anti-gay or anything like that, its not like he even said anything directly to another gay, all he did was wear a sticker that said i am straight. Is there anything wrong with being straight or is everyone gay now.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6819719 - 04/22/07 04:27 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I was suspended for wearing a "New Kids Suck" shirt... probably 1989ish.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6819722 - 04/22/07 04:28 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

if it was a pro-straight day you know for a 100000% actuall fact there will be a butt-loving rally just because there was a pro-straight day, and to be honest nothing negative would happen to the gays because if anything did, it would be a hate crime. its almost like a taboo now, if you mess with a gay politically, the gay will always win just because he is gay and his rights are being violated. but if a gay guy tries to voice his opinion its OK because he is gay and nobody wants to mess with him because they will get in trouble.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6819961 - 04/22/07 05:27 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

What he did may be offensive, but there is still supposed to be freedom of speech in this country.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6820017 - 04/22/07 05:42 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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if it was a pro-straight day you know for a 100000% actuall fact there will be a butt-loving rally just because there was a pro-straight day, and to be honest nothing negative would happen to the gays because if anything did, it would be a hate crime. its almost like a taboo now, if you mess with a gay politically, the gay will always win just because he is gay and his rights are being violated. but if a gay guy tries to voice his opinion its OK because he is gay and nobody wants to mess with him because they will get in trouble.



I agree completely, this is like the TV channel "B.E.T." (black entertainment television) there would be a huge uproar if there was a W.E.T. (White Entertainment Television) TV channel about how white people are racist but no one says anything about B.E.T. Its really getting ridiculous.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6820139 - 04/22/07 06:08 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Drewski said:
just think about this...what is the point of being gay? once you are gay you render your natural uses as an animal/mammal/human useless.  you are basically disrespecting your family and everything they stand for (im sure being gay isnt even close to anything your family beleives in otherwise you wouldnt have one, as explained in the second sentence) because you are refusing to extend the legacy of your family which can be traced generations back.  but if another mans love is more important to the future exesistance of your whole families legacy then i guess gay rights are great.




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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6820227 - 04/22/07 06:25 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

double post


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Illusionist]
    #6820263 - 04/22/07 06:35 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Illusionist said:
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Drewski said:
if it was a pro-straight day you know for a 100000% actually fact there will be a butt-loving rally just because there was a pro-straight day, and to be honest nothing negative would happen to the gays because if anything did, it would be a hate crime. its almost like a taboo now, if you mess with a gay politically, the gay will always win just because he is gay and his rights are being violated. but if a gay guy tries to voice his opinion its OK because he is gay and nobody wants to mess with him because they will get in trouble.



I agree completely, this is like the TV channel "B.E.T." (black entertainment television) there would be a huge uproar if there was a W.E.T. (White Entertainment Television) TV channel about how white people are racist but no one says anything about B.E.T. Its really getting ridiculous.





Well it doesn't help that WHITE people enslaved black people and all around treated them like shit for hundreds of years and alot of the dumb red neck southern people still do. So you see they united and came together to stand up against being discriminated against, it was there way of fighting back against singled out just because of the color of there skin, Same goes for gays and gay pride day and such, They have been the subject of much hate and anger for a long time so they celebrate the fact that they stood up for what they believed in and have managed to be successfully in changing peoples minds and being more widely accepted. So it would be just stupid to have a straight pride day, or white pride or what not.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: fireworks_god]
    #6821319 - 04/22/07 11:23 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Orgasmatronic_Super-Sonic said:
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Drewski said:
just think about this...what is the point of being gay? once you are gay you render your natural uses as an animal/mammal/human useless.  you are basically disrespecting your family and everything they stand for (im sure being gay isnt even close to anything your family beleives in otherwise you wouldnt have one, as explained in the second sentence) because you are refusing to extend the legacy of your family which can be traced generations back.  but if another mans love is more important to the future exesistance of your whole families legacy then i guess gay rights are great.




:wtf:




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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #6822031 - 04/23/07 06:32 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

i was suspended for wearing a " I got crabs from Dirty Dicks [crab shack] )
wherewear are my rights !
-but on a serious note , this is another attempt at school bureaucracy that only further hinders any progress between said warring parties. If we cant promote acceptance and understanding(on a day that is geared towards nothing BUT acceptance and voicing opinions) i fear we have only taken one step forward 3 steps back. My only question is Was this a school sanctioned function or was this a grass roots student movement ?


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: ReposadoXochipilli]
    #6822037 - 04/23/07 06:35 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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LukeMWSki said:
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Orgasmatronic_Super-Sonic said:
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Drewski said:
just think about this...what is the point of being gay? once you are gay you render your natural uses as an animal/mammal/human useless.  you are basically disrespecting your family and everything they stand for (im sure being gay isnt even close to anything your family beleives in otherwise you wouldnt have one, as explained in the second sentence) because you are refusing to extend the legacy of your family which can be traced generations back.  but if another mans love is more important to the future exesistance of your whole families legacy then i guess gay rights are great.




:wtf:




yea that post was unreal lol.




we are all a little more stupid after reading that.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6822056 - 04/23/07 06:49 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I'm straight as a fucking arrow,

But I refuse to extend the legacy of my family...for many reasons including but not limited to the fact that I would hate to raise a child in a world where a great majority of people spout off ignorant ramblings under pretentious assumptions...which in turn lowers the standard for thinking ....(thanks by the way)

I'm also adopted, so by your logic, I've been ousted by my own bloodline, my family disrespected me! If you want to get into family respect issues they aren't limited to gay and straight, and they certainly are not limited to a need/demand to extend a bloodline.

But by your reasoning, perhaps I'm just bitter about being severed from my legacy, and thats why I support gay rights
Or maybe I'm not afraid to have compassion for things different from my way of life

BTW, do you find a lot of recursive structures in your bloodline? I wouldnt be suprised

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6822890 - 04/23/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

During black history month kids aren't allowed to wear shirts that say "there should be a white history month too"

Well, they should be. :shrug:

What's with proclaiming freedom by abridging freedom? That makes no sense.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: peepeepottypants]
    #6822896 - 04/23/07 12:01 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

BTW, do you find a lot of recursive structures in your bloodline? I wouldnt be suprised :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

OMG, next time warn me before you say something that funny. I just sprayed coffee all over my screen! :rofl2: :rofl2:


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Diploid]
    #6822985 - 04/23/07 12:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

christianity = lobotomy.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #6829386 - 04/24/07 09:10 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Drewski, you are ignorant and intolerant. There is more point to being gay than there is being a closed-minded asshole like yourself.

I'm straight and I don't want to have any children, like many others. I guess we're all "betraying our families and their legacies," right?

I'd rather see a gay couple raise a child than see you raise one.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Mosis]
    #6829445 - 04/24/07 09:22 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Haha. I didn't even see that whole betraying your family legacy.


Drewski: I never want to have children. I come from a very large family. My only sister is a lesbian and she is expecting a child in about 3 months. Your views are extremely close-minded.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: DNKYD]
    #6829478 - 04/24/07 09:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Word up, DNKYD.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: DNKYD]
    #6830278 - 04/25/07 12:23 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I'm "betraying" my legacy and family because one day I want a vasectomy. And I'm straight. The world doesn't need a spawn of me running around.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: poke smot!]
    #6830334 - 04/25/07 12:34 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

...........
Uh yeah...it's just...a sticker

i'm sick of these gay / lesbian protests and how they take pride. It's been happening a million years now starting from the Romans perhaps, or correct me if I'm wrong- it's like those silly american tv st patty parade festivals...

:rolleyes:Wasn't Michigan the state who also tried to make a rule or law out of women who've been knocked up had to stick with their man and get married?!

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Iron_Hymen]
    #6830424 - 04/25/07 01:08 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I don't get the whole concept of "gay pride." What the fuck is there to be so proud of?

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: domite]
    #6830861 - 04/25/07 06:30 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

In a society where damn near everybody seems to be insecure with who they are, they just want to show they are not ashamed. Our majority of religious nuts try and make them feel as if they are guilty of some crime when they're just trying to live their lives like you and me.

What's wrong with being proud of who you are?

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: domite]
    #6830942 - 04/25/07 07:24 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)



Your avatar makes me gay.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: domite]
    #6830952 - 04/25/07 07:30 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The show of pride stems from a lack of respect.
One must respect oneself before others can fully respect you. Often the downtrodden are left " hopeless & broken spirited "( as gays are/were thorough countless centuries and cultures) and as a result they begin to disdain themselves; thus the show of pride is a reminder , a sign to the world they they respect themselves regardless of the respect they are given.
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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #6830962 - 04/25/07 07:33 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Your avatar makes me gay.





so i was looking for the milk this morning..
..and this bitch had the milk jugs all along.( damn those tits and their hypnotic biggitybounce ):eek:


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: elaspeinreason]
    #6830971 - 04/25/07 07:36 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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elaspeinreason said:
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WhiskeyClone said:


Your avatar makes me gay.





so i was looking for the milk this morning..
..and this bitch had the milk jugs all along.( damn those tits and their hypnotic biggitybounce ):eek:




That's fuckin gross


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: elaspeinreason]
    #6830977 - 04/25/07 07:38 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

how are they suffering in silence if theres an event about it man i have to say this to everyone are you allowed to be equally prejudiced against everyone in the pube or is that not cool either meh whatever fuck all creeds, coulours, religions, sexual orientations, genders, political parties, fuck them all and fuck you too.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: elaspeinreason]
    #6830985 - 04/25/07 07:41 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Being gay is not a choice, its not like I woke up one morning and thought "geeze, how can I piss off my parents, possibly alienate my friends, and increase the amount of difficulty in my life?"

The only choice I have in being gay is - do I live an open and honest life? Or, do I lie to

- my friends
- my family
- my co-workers
- my lovers
- my children

And try to live the 'straight' life and date women, get married and have children? That is one pretty big deceptive life to live, and one that could possibly ruin a family if your dirty little secret ever came out.

If there has been any lesson that my parents have taught me, its to be : Honest, Open and Respectful, and to lie about being gay is to go against the biggest things my parents have EVER taught me, and that is far more disrespectful than being gay.


I've tried being with girls - tried dating them, tried having sex, I've made out with plenty of them - and every time, there is just that 'something' thats not there, that doesn't feel right/natural for me. Yeah, at the end of the day I suppose I could *FORCE* it, but that is not a healthy or honest way to live my life. It lacks that spark, that click, that undefinable feeling in my chest that I get when I'm with another man.

Now personally, I think that its Bullshit that the kid got suspended, he had every right to wear that straight sticker, and think that the school was in the wrong for suspending him.

Edited by kaniz (04/25/07 07:43 AM)

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #6830995 - 04/25/07 07:44 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

hence the " damn those " ..the nipples are more ofset than the eyes in your avatar


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: poke smot!]
    #6831104 - 04/25/07 08:28 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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A Christian student




That's why. He's a fucking liar.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: poke smot!]
    #6831111 - 04/25/07 08:29 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: poke smot!]
    #6831528 - 04/25/07 10:27 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

While that kid is an awful jackass, there shouldn't have been any disciplinary actions.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Redstorm]
    #6831615 - 04/25/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Who the fuck cares if he wants to wear a sticker like that. It's not like he said "Kill gays" or something ridiculous like that.
He was merely voicing his disagreement with the school sponnsoring the event. Just because I think the day shouldn't be supported by public schools doesn't mean I hate gay people. Those wishing to censor religious views are being completely hypocritical. People have made the line between expressing beliefs and offensive bigotry way too thin.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6831625 - 04/25/07 10:43 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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just think about this...what is the point of being gay? once you are gay you render your natural uses as an animal/mammal/human useless.  you are basically disrespecting your family and everything they stand for (im sure being gay isnt even close to anything your family beleives in otherwise you wouldnt have one, as explained in the second sentence) because you are refusing to extend the legacy of your family which can be traced generations back.  but if another mans love is more important to the future exesistance of your whole families legacy then i guess gay rights are great.




Right, because in the 21st century in post-industrial America (or anywhere in the world, at any time period, for that matter) the number one purpose of sentient, sapient human beings is reproduction, and our society is structured in such a way that keeping a "bloodline" alive is important. :rolleyes:

We will never be free from racism and sexual-orientation-ism as long as we continue to acknowledge their existance. Dedicating a day to gay rights is almost as damaging as punishing this student for expressing his opinion. We should completely and utterly legalize gay marriage, grant homosexuals the same priveleges that everyone else has, and move on, allowing intolerant people to protest, and ignoring them.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Kamin]
    #6831798 - 04/25/07 11:23 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Maybe he was gay and he thought the sticker would change that.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #6831802 - 04/25/07 11:25 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

this is a bit off topic, but what the hell:

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The AFA (American Family Association) is expecting
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to do business with a company if they knew it supported the
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Let's change the outcome by completing the 1-question survey and
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Follow the link below to take action on this important issue. Go to and
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I have no idea as to how the AFA plans to use this survey,
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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: poke smot!]
    #6832130 - 04/25/07 12:29 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

church and state are now simply one in the same...

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6832145 - 04/25/07 12:31 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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I don't get the whole concept of "gay pride." What the fuck is there to be so proud of?




You go tell your family, friends, classmates/coworkers that you're gay. Kiss your boyfriend farewell in public. Being openly gay, the way God intended us to be, in most societies takes quite some courage nowadays. Wherever the Christians went in the world, they took their hate with them. Were it not for the historic influence of christianity and islam, most of the world's cultures would stand fairly neutral towards homosexuality. But then again, ere it not for the historic influence of christianity and islam, most of the world's cultures would still exist.


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what is the point of being gay?




To love in a way which comes natural :heart:

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once you are gay you render your natural uses as an animal/mammal/human useless.




Thats rather sad if you believe that. Procreation is important, but it is not the be-all, end-all of the human experience. Surely individuals can be of more use to the species than merely breeding?

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you are basically disrespecting your family and everything they stand for




If all your family stands for is bigotry and intolerance then they should be disrespected. But what kind of deranged notion is it that being gay disrespects your parents and forefathers?

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because you are refusing to extend the legacy of your family which can be traced generations back. but if another mans love is more important to the future exesistance of your whole families legacy then i guess gay rights are great.




If you're so DNA minded: chances are good that all the genes that can be found in you can be found in people who haven't had sex with your family for thousands of years.

Some people don't procreate. This can be due to choice, celibacy, homosexuality, sterility or a myriad of reasons. And this is how it should be. This is OK. Nature works fine the way it is. If you look at how many species have homosexual behaviors among them, then it should become patently clear to you that mother nature explicitly wants homosexuals to exist. Perhaps a hundred million years from now you have three genders, a third gender which extracts the sperm and the egg from the man and woman, inserts a gene packet and hatches babies for the three of them. Who knows, but in this stage of evolution it is very clear that there should be homosexuality.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: artyjames]
    #6832154 - 04/25/07 12:32 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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church and state are now simply one in the same...




^^^^ Bit of a stretch...


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: UlcerPentacidis]
    #6832167 - 04/25/07 12:35 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I agree they shouldn't have suspended the kid, but what's funny is the christian/jewish homophobia comes from the bible story of sodom and gomorah.  You know, the one where lot's wife was turned to a pillar of salt because she turned around to look while 'god' was destroying every man, woman and child in the city. . .

The contradiction here is that homosexuality was condemned to the point of mass murder, but later on, when lot got drunk and fucked his two daughters, getting both pregnant, all was ok.  No condemnation for incest.  In fact, the bible says it was all the little girls fault for getting their daddy drunk and seducing him...Yea right. :shrug:
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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Asante]
    #6832207 - 04/25/07 12:42 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Homosexuality helps us decide who we will kill first when we realize the cold truth that over-population brings. Basicly, Homosexuals are mother nature's answer to over-population. It's kind of funny when you think about it because most straight people don't like to admit that the gays will one day save the planet.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Cowgold]
    #6832217 - 04/25/07 12:45 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

So if I speed, you should pay the ticket?
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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Asante]
    #6832256 - 04/25/07 12:52 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Just mail me the ticket and forget all about it.  I'll take care of everything.  :uptosomething:

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Cowgold]
    #6833954 - 04/25/07 07:10 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Homosexuality helps us decide who we will kill first when we realize the cold truth that over-population brings.




I think that's going a bit too far. The majority of people aren't homosexual, and if *killing people* to reduce population ever comes up at all, I doubt who lives and who dies will be deliniated according to sexual orientation. And even then, it won't be explicitly the heterosexuals who are singled out for killing [just because they're straight] or the homosexuals spared.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Cowgold]
    #6834001 - 04/25/07 07:25 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Homosexuality helps us decide who we will kill first when we realize the cold truth that over-population brings. Basicly, Homosexuals are mother nature's answer to over-population. It's kind of funny when you think about it because most straight people don't like to admit that the gays will one day save the planet.




I think gay people are the answer to over-population there pretty much the only people that don't breed.

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Taharka]
    #6834007 - 04/25/07 07:27 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

When we find water on another planet we'll just ship off all the homos (keep a few lesbieans... err... alot).

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Flipz]
    #6834063 - 04/25/07 07:42 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Tech]
    #6834121 - 04/25/07 07:56 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Tech said:
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Drewski said:
just think about this...what is the point of being gay? once you are gay you render your natural uses as an animal/mammal/human useless. you are basically disrespecting your family and everything they stand for (im sure being gay isnt even close to anything your family beleives in otherwise you wouldnt have one, as explained in the second sentence) because you are refusing to extend the legacy of your family which can be traced generations back. but if another mans love is more important to the future exesistance of your whole families legacy then i guess gay rights are great.




I agree with some parts, the genetic material is lost and it isn't the optimal situation for the person's parents or relatives. Yet the natural selection will take care of gays, people shouldn't be the ones doing it. It's their choice. They want to live their lives that way, and others shouldn't have anything to say about it. Just live your own life happily, and accept the fact that others have the same right too.




I disagree with all parts of what both you and Drewski said. Natural selection isn't going to "take care of gays." I don't even know where you get this idea. Maybe because you're implying since gays can't reproduce they will eventually all die out? If someone is gay, they are going to die either way. That does not mean that since they died without reproducing there won't be any more gay people in the world.

And Drewski, your argument is based on wild assumptions. "Once you are gay you render your natural uses as an animal/mammal/human useless." Incorrect, gay does not equal sterile. Now I understand that most gay people aren't going to go around extending their bloodline, but they are not without, what you are claiming, their natural uses. Are infertile males or females disrespecting their families because they can't carry on their bloodlines? That's another wild assumption by the way. I'm pretty confident my family doesn't find respect in bloodline extension. My dad might be happy that my sister just had a child, but my brother has made it pretty clear he doesn't plan on having children, and my dad could care less. Maybe your family stands for "extending the legacy" (I'd hate to break it to you, but not too many families even have any legacy), but not everyone's. Not to mention your argument would only be applicable where there is an only who is gay or the other siblings don't have children. It only takes one to extend the bloodline.

Who says extending your family's bloodline matters anyway? You're not gonna live forever, ya know. So if I my family eventually dies out, I'm obviously not going to be around to see it happen, so who cares? Maybe you do, but there go your wild assumptions again, not everyone does. I also doubt being gay isn't something a family does or does not believe in. How many families do you know had kids so they could just have kids? Most parents fall in love and all that jazz. I've never met anyone who has parents that were like "Yeah, we just had sex so we could extend our family legacies." Get out of the caveman era, people don't reproduce just to reproduce.


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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: jewunit]
    #6835095 - 04/25/07 11:55 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: Drewski]
    #6835479 - 04/26/07 02:28 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

it's just going to keep getting worse

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: haysoos]
    #6835754 - 04/26/07 06:53 AM (16 years, 10 months ago)

meh, he's just trolling - so why bother writing an in depth response to him if he lacks the respect/ability to write one back?

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Re: Michigan student suspended for wearing 'I'm straight' sticker [Re: kaniz]
    #6837609 - 04/26/07 04:20 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

He should not have been suspended. The way I see it from reading the article, he was expressing his opinion in the same exact fassion as the others. Where we run into problems is when the public school systems limit/deny students their right to free speech. You have as much freedom as the school will allow you.

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