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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: geokills]
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I don't know if it has been mentioned but I think it is important to point out that although a ot of users might only post in OTD, I'm sure that they occasionally read other forums. Some of the other forums can be intimidating in other ways. The know it alls and master-debaters ( :smile: )own PAL and the spiritual gurus and alien abductionists own S&P. But I think they read these other forums and eventually some will start to post there. Also, if OTD draws the big crowds than it is our most powerful tool in stopping the spread of misinformation. That after all is the expresses purpose of this site. This is your opportunity to reach out to the kids that just came for the party. Like the martial arts instructor that takes a kid who wants to learn how to fight and ends up teaching them a better way of living and a respect for themselves and their enemies.

The hitch is that this depends on the older members who have the experience, knowledge, and wisdom don't abandon the community because of the kids. They need to take a leadership role. A lot of these kids are looking for subtle guidance (IMO).


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: mntlfngrs]
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In my opinion (anyone getting sick of it yet?) I don't think people were angry about OTD being taken down. Rather, they were angry that no one told them exactly why it was being taken down, and rather responded with "be patient."

The members that make up the Shroomery have a right to know what's going on. But I do think that this probably have a really good outcome in the future. It at least showed who really cared about the Shroomery and who was just out to make other people miserable.


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: MycoCat]
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The mycology nazis and the easily offended could always go to mycotopia where there are no freedoms.


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: geokills]
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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: mntlfngrs]
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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: ]
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Ythan for admin!

Eloquent shit man, it's always been about the ownership.

Hail Ythan the Great
Hail Ythan the Wise



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The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance.

The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: ]
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I know what you are saying. I actually found the shroomery through mycotopia. I originally came for the mycology info but now that I am not actively growing I stay for the fun. I do read all the forums even if I rarely or never post in them. And I agree that there are a lot of unsavory characters around OTD. ( I hope I'm not included in that group) But that is what I was saying about our opportunity to teach and impart some respect for all entheogens into them. Some will never get it though. But in order to protect my rights I need to protect the rights of everyone including those I don't like. Any free society must put up with a certain amount of BS in order to be free.

Except for a few slips I don't remember anyone ever getting banned for disagreeing with an admin and debating them on a point. But that is how it is at mycotopia. I wouldn't want the shroomery to be like that. The beauty of the shroomery is the same as the beauty of life, it is the good with the bad, the pure with the seedy. The shroomery is the yin/yang of fungi and the Internet.


BTW I have decided to copywrite "Mycology Nazi" You'll have to pay me to use it.



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Edited by mntlfngrs (11/22/03 12:37 AM)

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: mntlfngrs]
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Hell yes it is.  The fact that we are the yin/yang of fungi on the internet will probably never change - I'm only saying that we should do our best and it would be in the best interests of the Shroomery to keep our best foot forward.  I can personally assure you that someone will never be banned here for merely disagreeing with an administrator or staff member - and if they are, I will do everything in my power to get to the bottom of it and see that the user is unbanned if appropriate.  This of course doesn't mean that people who disagree with the administration are free to disrupt the board with thier distaste - but I'm sure you already knew that.  So long as people can be real about it, we have no problem.  It's when people lose their self control and act unrelenting for no other purpose than to stir up shit because they thing it will bring about changes (eg. PGF).

Anyways, think about the idea proposed as it really is the best of both worlds and will essentially put to rest all arguments that either side may have.  :spliff:
 


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: geokills]
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Your idea sounds good to me.


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: geokills]
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I agree that people who disrupt for the purpose of disrupting should be warned and then banned if they can't find a more productive outlet.

I do like the idea of the unseen OTD or something along those lines.
I think the temp shutdown of OTD might even go a long way in shaking out the fluff.

Anyway I do thank all the admins and mods for their time, energy, and dedication to the Shroomery. All you work has raised the Shroomery to cult status. I always wanted to be in a cult! :smile:


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Edited by mntlfngrs (11/22/03 12:27 AM)

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: MycoCat]
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Quote:
MycoCats Re: to Mr. Mushrooms:

You speak in an extremely condescending manner. You seem like an elitist. Why are they lower class?



http://www.shroomery.org/matts/rate/rati...p;vc=&main=


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tiny_rabid_birds said:
"your avatar is dirty."

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Rose]
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The Shroomery needs a reputation because its PURPOSE is to STOP the spread of MISINFORMATION surrounding psychadelic mushrooms. In order to do this, The Shroomery MUST be reputable.



Nicely said.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: 40oz]
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Way to take a thread on a subject and turn it into a rant on a single member.    :thumbdown:


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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MycoCat asked a question, i gave an answer.
save the melodrama for someone else.


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tiny_rabid_birds said:
"your avatar is dirty."

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: 40oz]
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And then you edit your post without marking it as having been edited.

Very disingenuous.


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You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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Allright, now you're both guity of hijackin' the topic :crazy2:
 


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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regardless of what i edited, its still the same common denominator.


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tiny_rabid_birds said:
"your avatar is dirty."

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: 40oz]
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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: ]
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i have no beef with you as well MM,
sometimes i just think you misspeak yourself.
just my opinion. no foul.

as far as OTD goes, i dont want to speculate on the matter.



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tiny_rabid_birds said:
"your avatar is dirty."

Edited by fortyounces2freedom (11/22/03 03:24 PM)

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: 40oz]
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