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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Annom]
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Well I like to think we controlled it to an extent, by locking and dumping the crap threads as soon as they happened, but it became overwhelming at times.


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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>Translation: The shroomery is a business, not a community.


More like nonprofit organization. It would be a business if we charged access, but we don't. Even nonprofit organizations have to have some source of income to keep things running, everyone knows that.

I think a lot of people take American rights for granted, thing's aren't they way that you and I are used to all over the world.
No where in the definition of community do I see the word democratic. All internet sites are dictatorships, that's just how it works. There is no bill of rights for the internet. Whatever form of "government" the owners of the site chose is fair game, and they can change their minds whenever they want.

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Shroomism]
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It is members who could not restrain themselves from
constantly barraging OTD with flames against other members
and turning OTD into a cesspool of negativity, and when
any attempt is made to slow down their spreading of hatred,
they react in a selfish manner by flooding the forum with crap
and creating a disturbance in the zen of the shroomery

who?
what?
when?
where?
why?

maybe I don't come here often enough, but who or what
specifically was such a disturbance in the forum as to warrant
these drastic measures?

admittedly the content has been lacking lately and inanity
reigning supreme but does that alone beckon such response?


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All I know is The Growery is a place where losers who get banned here go.

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Gumby]
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Why would someone want to be part of a community where they were disrespected by some people who had seized controll of the neighborhood?


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said:
Yes, and they should  take their money with them. Apparently if you can take it then it was yours, right? 

Not entirely sure what you're getting at here BH, but sure people can up and leave and take their money with them.  I'm not about to track down all the troublemakers and shank them for their wallets :wink:




..and to afoaf, damnit it wasn't intentional I swear -
it was only an experiment to see if you'd notice :grin:

Really though, I tried to make it up over the weekend but as things would have it - I was too wasted and ended up driving brian up to the south bay on Monday morning.  Fear not - I will compensate you for your glass... at cost  :tongue2:
 


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Gumby]
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big ups to my dawgs in the dirty south.

good to see you, GD.

in an effort to put this 'democracy' fallacy to rest...

1. I never *invoked* the democracy argument.

2. I don't believe the democracy argument.

The admins have the final say.

(Though, moderator elections do seem intriguing)


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: geokills]
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It's just an attempt at helping people comprehend their own worth, and value of themselves and other members of this website. Members deserve all the representation/controll that they can manage to get.

That's not democracy, that's life.

In a power struggle like this, any amount of control you can seize must have been rightfully yours to take, or you would not have been able to take it.


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: geokills]
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geokills said:
[some of you] you are picking my words apart way too much and quite possibly could be willfully ignoring the overall message I am trying to convey.


Hmm, food for thought...


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: geokills]
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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: ]
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I'm here for the OTD thank God it led me to the mushrooms! :razz:


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Hi how's it going, wanna kick Heroin basically painlessly on your own, in your own house, without any government "help" ,or the "help" of a crazy condescending, judgmental medical doctor? Read this:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=42&Number=7342616&page=0&fpart=all


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Lightningfractal]
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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: ]
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I was just being good-heartedly sarcastic. My point being that regardless of how someone got here, the OTD was a cool bonus to the overall experience. It's all too easy to claim that the focus is mushrooms so OTD don't matter that much.

But this is a community. Besides OTD we also have a philosophy, Spirituality, Political, other drugs, a bar and grill(pub), gardening, and even a recepie forum, to name a few. What do these forums have to do with mushrooms? Why is this point even being included in discussing this, if these other forums are not under the microscope as well?

My view is that while I am here for mushrooms,(see my copes I found in the hunting forum?), I am here for the community spirit as well.

Um, if that's ok of course.

I get the idea, the Pub for off topic discussion that is highly respectful, and the OTD for those who prefer a basically uncensored environment to post off topic in. Hey, great plan. So what was wrong with that?

I have read all the arguments for and against. I personally believe the OTD has been recommended to friends time and time again, bringing in new members who then venture to the cultivation and hunting forums to learn about mushrooms. It's a brave and highly popular part of the shroomery.

The fact that it eats up 40% of the shroomery's resources attests to it's brilliance. Add more bandwidth if nescessary and keep the site the success it has been. Eliminating OTD, or changing it beyond recognition will hurt the site. This is the "risk" that that negro in Geo's sig is referring to, and one that i personally hope does not happen.

Nice talking to ya father shrooms.


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Hi how's it going, wanna kick Heroin basically painlessly on your own, in your own house, without any government "help" ,or the "help" of a crazy condescending, judgmental medical doctor? Read this:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=42&Number=7342616&page=0&fpart=all


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Lightningfractal]
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I say kill OTD. There are plenty of other places to chat (i.e. TDUB)

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Deepblue42 said:OTD is one out of 26 forums here at shroomery.org , if you are a memeber and cant post anything useful in any of these forums then maybe you should find another message board. otd is an extra forum, bottom line. And i see all these members acting like babies that got your candy tooken away. Grow up, otd will most likely be back if the majority of its posters can compose themselves for 2-3 weeks and not act like little kids. In the mean time there is plenty of other places to discuss various topics.



Agreed.


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As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know.

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Lightningfractal]
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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Xochitl]
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BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN BAN  :lol:


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Hi how's it going, wanna kick Heroin basically painlessly on your own, in your own house, without any government "help" ,or the "help" of a crazy condescending, judgmental medical doctor? Read this:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=42&Number=7342616&page=0&fpart=all


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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: ]
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good points Mr Mushrooms :thumbup: 


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As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know.

-Donald Rumsfeld 2/2/02 Pentagon

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Xochitl]
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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Xochitl]
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I appreciate what you are saying Mr Mushrooms. I just hope that there will be an OTD without a feeling of big brother watching, and yet still will accomplish the goals of getting rid of these things you speak of.

edit: To Mr Mushrooms


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Hi how's it going, wanna kick Heroin basically painlessly on your own, in your own house, without any government "help" ,or the "help" of a crazy condescending, judgmental medical doctor? Read this:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=42&Number=7342616&page=0&fpart=all


Edited by Lightningfractal (11/19/03 02:02 AM)

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Lightningfractal]
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there is such a place: http://thedarkunderbelly.com/phpbb/
go there.



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As we know, there are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know.

-Donald Rumsfeld 2/2/02 Pentagon

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Re: Flawed Experiment [Re: Lightningfractal]
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Quote:
I appreciate what you are saying


I don't...

I found that whole "kill OTD" comment to reek of the very same negativity that OTD was apparently being put on trial for. There are many other much more tactful ways that such an opinion could be expressed...and I find Xochitl's lack of tact to not only be in bad taste, but also disrespectful of those of us that held OTD in higher regards. If there truely is going to be any real changes made, then it has to begin with everyone - and not just the people that seem to be at the root of the problems (e.g. all of us so called immature negativity-spewing OTD regulars that caused all the problems in the first place)


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