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Invisiblemuhurgle
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Quantum Mechanics
    #2058041 - 10/30/03 07:10 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

All the threads on free will got me to do some reading on the different interpretations of quantum mechanics, and wow... that shit is surreal..

Different interpretations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interpretation_of_quantum_mechanics

The "Many worlds" interpretation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everett_many-worlds_interpretation

Quantum suicide (hehe) and quantum immortality:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_immortality

Quantum consciousness and Conciousness causes collapse:

http://www.artificialbrains.com/neuroscience/quantumconsciousness.html

Since we can't really say if any of these interpretations are wrong or not based on current physics, there's some major discoveries to be made about what reality really is.. exciting stuff (I know the copenhagen version is what most physicists believe in, but they can't actually prove it yet :smile:).   


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Re: Quantum Mechanics [Re: muhurgle]
    #2059872 - 10/31/03 06:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

> there's some major discoveries to be made about what reality really is..

Even if we do figure out what reality really is, who is to say that our reality is the only reality... wow, fractal.  :grin:


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Re: Quantum Mechanics [Re: Seuss]
    #2060302 - 10/31/03 12:45 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

We will never experience true reality as humans, only the reality as interpreted by our human minds. We can only experience the ultimate reality by not using any of our senses, by not having an ego.

I personally really don't care for quantumn mechanics and similar, its just basically saying what eastern philosophy and mysticism has known for centuries upon centuries, but they make it more complicated with all these equations and such, when personal experience is more than enough for me to believe.


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Re: Quantum Mechanics [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #2060385 - 10/31/03 01:18 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I dig what you are saying Mandrill, but that's not the goal of quantum mechanics. Those philosophies/ideas are just by-products of research into sub-sub-atomic particles (for lack of a better term)- that is quarks and leptons. After intense studying of these particles and the way they interact, these ideas you speak of that have been around for so long are now seen or can be interpreted by the way these particles interact. While quantum theory is repetitive and seemingly inconsistent with nature, it definitely contains strong geometric patterns and symmetry. The Standard Model is good example of this. Einstein did not like quantum mechanics, because some of it's experiments defied his laws of relativity. "Quantum entanglement" or what Einstein called "spooky action at a distance," breaks the old law that the speed of light is a constant, c. In two separate but identical(?) systems, a particle is altered/moved somehow and the corresponding particle in the other system knows exactly what the other is doing and reacts accordingly- with no time delay whatsoever and at as far a distance as you like.. This means they are somehow communicating- and at a rate faster than the speed of light. This leads some physicists and myself to believe that everything is somehow inextricably linked together. That somehow those two particles are really in essence of the same thing or maybe they even are the same thing!


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Re: Quantum Mechanics [Re: muhurgle]
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Re: Quantum Mechanics [Re: muhurgle]
    #2060458 - 10/31/03 02:07 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

check out cap'n quantum:
http://pw1.netcom.com/~wolfmirror/


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