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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: zappaisgod]
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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Obama has cleverly used the ISIS situation to send lawyers, guns and money to Syrian Rebels, which he wanted to do before but was opposed by the vast majority of Americans AND congress.

Now he gets to fight a war there with tacit approval.  LOL what a scumbag motherfucker. 

Oh, no boots on the ground right?  EXCEPT the 475 in addition to the 1,000 already on the ground in Iraq.  But that doesn't matter.  Obung-Head said no boots on the ground.


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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
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They aren't wearing boots.  They're advisers so they are probably wearing wing tips


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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: zappaisgod]
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Wingtips and south-side chicago pimp hats.


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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: starfire_xes]
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Now there's some guys who can get shit done.  Maybe some Mafia for a balanced attack


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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
elax420 said:
zappaisgod said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
There hasnt been a caliphate since the fall of the ottoman empire nearly a century ago. Even then they didnt possess any real degree of power since the 13th century. Where exactly are you getting this info from? Prior to the invasion of Afghanistan there was a large movement within the country to eliminate the taliban, and Iraq was by and large a free and moderate country prior to the fall of Saddam. Invasions driven by conflicts over oil are not indicitive of internal instability. Which is what I was referencing by the term "stable". Up until America eliminated their leaders they were more or less united interally as the baathist party gave absolutely zero fucks about religious differences.


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This post is so fucked up i don’t even know where to start. There is a major difference between a Caliph and Sultan. The Ottomans weren’t even arabic, nor did they control the Hijaz for very long, so the sultans claim to the title caliph is a weak one at best. The ottomans were at their strongest from 1400-1700 by 1200 they hadn’t even taken Constantinople yet. They were also relatively secular, and for the most part respected the local customs and laws of the lands they occupied.

Hell the only reason the state of Saudi Arabia exists is because the Wahhabis thought the Ottomans were profligate.



Absolutely nothing you just said has any relation to what I was just discussing. I award you no points, and may god have mercy on you.



Ya it does.

You were acting like you know something about the history of the region when you really don’t.

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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Shroomism said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
War against the enemy they just trained and armed. Funneling money through Saudi Arabian arms dealers, personally training "moderates" over in Syria. None of this ever would happened if America just stayed the fuck out of afghanistan and let the Taliban root out Osama like they said they would of.


QFT

ISIS/ISIL wouldn't even exist if not for the US.


This is beyond nonsense.


:orly:

You have anything to back that statement up with? Explain.

You won't read of watch any of these. But here's some evidence for you.

http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-funding-us-allies-2014-6
http://thediplomat.com/2014/08/iran-didnt-create-isis-we-did/
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Rise-of-ISIS-West-Saudi-by-GIlbert-Mercier-Al-Qaeda_Iraq_Isil-140809-410.html
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/25/6065529/isis-rise
http://guardianlv.com/2014/06/isis-trained-by-us-government/
http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/09/08/responsible-isis-better-question-responsible-video/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/america-s-allies-are-funding-isis.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-made-in-usa-iraq-geopolitical-arsonists-seek-to-burn-region/5387475
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/officials-u-s-trained-isis-at-secret-base-in-jordan/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10588308/US-secretly-backs-rebels-to-fight-al-Qaeda-in-Syria.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/13/us-allies-let-funds-flow-to-al-qaeda-in-syria
http://rt.com/op-edge/183412-isis-us-syria-obama/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-evidence-u-s-funds-al-qaeda-terrorists-in-syria/5376522





US is directly responsible for the Rise of ISIS. We helped train, arm and fund them. Deal with it.


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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: Shroomism]
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The best reasoning in support of Zap is that The Caliphate, or the Islamic Jihad, or Muslim Extremists, whatever, existed long before the US was ever a nation. 

Its a bunch of power mad Tools using excuses to gain control and power over others.


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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: starfire_xes]
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Just because extremism existed long before doesn't mean anything. We helped ISIS/ISIL/al-Qaeda come to power, period.


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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: Shroomism]
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Thats definitely up to debate.

It doesn’t matter how many articles you cite if they are all based on a false premise. There is no denying that American arms have wound up in their hands but how they got there is unknown. America never supported the ISIS. Iraqi weapons have fallen into their hands, and who knows if the groups we supported in syria went on to join ISIS but to say we are directly responsible for them is entirely baseless at best and a blatant unabashed lie at worst.

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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: elax420]
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Whatever the case, its a great big shit sandwich and everyone gets to take a bite.


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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
zappaisgod said:
Shroomism said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
War against the enemy they just trained and armed. Funneling money through Saudi Arabian arms dealers, personally training "moderates" over in Syria. None of this ever would happened if America just stayed the fuck out of afghanistan and let the Taliban root out Osama like they said they would of.


QFT

ISIS/ISIL wouldn't even exist if not for the US.


This is beyond nonsense.


:orly:

You have anything to back that statement up with? Explain.

You won't read of watch any of these. But here's some evidence for you.

http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-funding-us-allies-2014-6
http://thediplomat.com/2014/08/iran-didnt-create-isis-we-did/
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Rise-of-ISIS-West-Saudi-by-GIlbert-Mercier-Al-Qaeda_Iraq_Isil-140809-410.html
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/25/6065529/isis-rise
http://guardianlv.com/2014/06/isis-trained-by-us-government/
http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/09/08/responsible-isis-better-question-responsible-video/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/america-s-allies-are-funding-isis.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-made-in-usa-iraq-geopolitical-arsonists-seek-to-burn-region/5387475
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/officials-u-s-trained-isis-at-secret-base-in-jordan/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10588308/US-secretly-backs-rebels-to-fight-al-Qaeda-in-Syria.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/13/us-allies-let-funds-flow-to-al-qaeda-in-syria
http://rt.com/op-edge/183412-isis-us-syria-obama/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-evidence-u-s-funds-al-qaeda-terrorists-in-syria/5376522





US is directly responsible for the Rise of ISIS. We helped train, arm and fund them. Deal with it.


using rt and globalresearch as your sources doesn't help your case.


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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: xanderofpella]
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Re: Obama announces war against ISIS in both Iraq and Syria [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
zappaisgod said:
Shroomism said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
War against the enemy they just trained and armed. Funneling money through Saudi Arabian arms dealers, personally training "moderates" over in Syria. None of this ever would happened if America just stayed the fuck out of afghanistan and let the Taliban root out Osama like they said they would of.


QFT

ISIS/ISIL wouldn't even exist if not for the US.


This is beyond nonsense.


:orly:

You have anything to back that statement up with? Explain.

You won't read of watch any of these. But here's some evidence for you.

http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-funding-us-allies-2014-6
http://thediplomat.com/2014/08/iran-didnt-create-isis-we-did/
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Rise-of-ISIS-West-Saudi-by-GIlbert-Mercier-Al-Qaeda_Iraq_Isil-140809-410.html
http://www.vox.com/2014/8/25/6065529/isis-rise
http://guardianlv.com/2014/06/isis-trained-by-us-government/
http://libertyunyielding.com/2014/09/08/responsible-isis-better-question-responsible-video/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/america-s-allies-are-funding-isis.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/isis-made-in-usa-iraq-geopolitical-arsonists-seek-to-burn-region/5387475
http://www.wnd.com/2014/06/officials-u-s-trained-isis-at-secret-base-in-jordan/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10588308/US-secretly-backs-rebels-to-fight-al-Qaeda-in-Syria.html
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/oct/13/us-allies-let-funds-flow-to-al-qaeda-in-syria
http://rt.com/op-edge/183412-isis-us-syria-obama/
http://www.globalresearch.ca/more-evidence-u-s-funds-al-qaeda-terrorists-in-syria/5376522





US is directly responsible for the Rise of ISIS. We helped train, arm and fund them. Deal with it.


I looked at all of them and all it does is lead me to believe that you will swallow hook line and sinker anything any asshole says that blames America for bad shit.  Some of the articles you linked didn't even have anything to do with America. 

The headline of your first link

Quote:
ISIS Is Likely Receiving Funding From People Living In Countries Allied With The US


Well fucking duh.  Some American citizens are going to fight with them as well.  So much nonsense.


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