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Simple and Complex
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Simple would be silent master.

Complex would be master with too many words.


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Evolution of Time.

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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Whoa, that's like, so deep man.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Phluck]
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Phluck you sound bitter.


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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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Sorry, it's just kind of... you know.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Phluck]
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Too many possibilites run in my mind. Simple could be complex and complex could mean simple. I guess it's about what way I want to look at it at the time I look at it.

What do you think about the complexities of nanotechnology? Would it be moral to create things that could end up leading to our destruction? Ex: Atomic Bombs... Do we really need things so complex? I know if I were a scientist I would want to look at things in the most complex manner because that would make it more accurate.


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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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The atomic bomb is even all that complex, really.

I don't think it would necessarily be immoral. By doing something as simple as going for a walk one day, you may trigger a long and wild chain of events that eventually leads to the destruction of humanity.

Sometimes a simple life can be very satisfying. Sometimes it can also be very empty and painful. This does not mean that it is more noble or satisfying than a complex life.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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Hehe, first off, I like it when you post this way more than the other way! :grin:

Secondly, I think everything starts off simple. Like our collective knowledge. We just didn't know much when we started off.

Then we started a race to collect all this knowledge. Our understanding of the Universe gets more and more complex.

There will come a point when we will have collected every understanding of the Universe. The Universe will then be summed up in One idea. Simple.

Hehe. Constant race around the circle..
Peace.


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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btw, sorry if I insulted you at all earlier. I was just trying to make a point.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: fireworks_god]
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"There will come a point when we will have collected every understanding of the Universe. The Universe will then be summed up in One idea. Simple. "

I'm not sure if that's possible. Maybe if you understood the universe, that would create a big bang inside your head... which may prove fatal.

I'm not sure that the human mind is equipped to understand the universe. It's more of a locate food and sex device than anything.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Phluck]
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I agree, we aren't really capable of understanding the Universe. But maybe that is what evoultion is. Merging back into the Universe. And when you realize it all, it all starts over again.....
Peace.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Phluck]
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I can see a perfect world. That is all Simple and all Complex. Maybe it sprouted from McKennas idea where we would control the nanotechnology around us that would stop all pain and would stop all harm. Like a world that we imagine. Kind of like a computer. But it may already be this way. Our mind is like a computer. We can do many things..... lost my thought....


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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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I think that's an interesting idea... possible? Maybe.

And maybe it is possible to achieve a state of mind like that through meditation.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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We are the world inside the world inside the world inside the world. We are beings 'floating around in space' ... I already know what is going to eventually happen. It has already happened. Again and Again and Again and Again. The things is though that we are communication through a television. We are slaves to it. Now what I want to do is walk away from it. But what pulls me back? People are beginning to see what it is that keeps us locked in place. It's a system that someone built to do that. One mind thought of it. Many minds became one and now they keep themselves in power with what they created. We are a being within a being within a being within a being.


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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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Those with more light should give everyone same light.


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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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I don't think television was created to control people at all. I was created for entertainment. Watching television in moderation, and maintaining critical thought is more beneficial than it is harmful. Not only can it keep you informed on world events (of course, supplemented with other media), but it is a window to culture and thought in your society.

Sometimes what it says is bullshit, sometimes it's absolutely true. Some people waste all their time watching television, but I'm not sure if their problem is television, or if it's a lack of passion or interest in other things.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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"Those with more light should give everyone same light."

Communism!!! :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Phluck]
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Not possessions. Baka. inlightin


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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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This doesn't jive well with Novelty theory


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Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Strumpling]
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Can you make a simple explanation of Novelty Theory?


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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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Energy is simple and complex. We are all just energy...we are simple (food,sex,etc) and complex (abstract thinking, cellular and atomic activity) at the same time. This existence is simply complex. :smirk:

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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yes a simple explanation of Terence Mckenna's novelty theory would be this:

Nature creates and conserves novelty; that is, in general, nature, and its fruits, will continually become more and more complex through time.

A bit more detailed way he's described it:

Think of the big bang - right after the big-bang, there wasn't really much going on at all, it was basically radiation and that's it.. but as time passed, simple atomic structures started forming, and then complex molecular structures, and so on.... life sparked somewhere.. life continued to evolve, to become more complex... which brings us to now, where we have brains and computers doing highly-complex calculations and processing.

While SOME systems do become simpler, IE the process of USING a computer is now very simple compared to days of amiga and dos and stuff, the OVERALL novelty of nature will continue to rise, IE the processes of COMPUTING are now much more complex, which gives way to easier use.


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Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
In addition: SHPONGLE

Edited by Strumpling (10/23/03 03:11 PM)

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Strumpling]
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sometimes I wonder if things could ever go back to being simple. there are infinit possibilities and if so then why not keep expanding. if there's infinity then how can there be a limit?


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: Simple and Complex [Re: Droz]
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All vague notions must fall before a pupil can call himself a master

~ Lee, Bruce


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